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- Drahknon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I have nothing against Serenity. I just get extremely annoyed when the fans go ***** crazy over it, ranking it above Schindler's List..."
You know, I completely understand that feeling and empathize with it quite a lot... nonetheless, I think it's something of a self-sustaining debate when you have equal numbers of people saying how awful it is.
I mean, I like Serenity, I like Firefly and I don't expect (or care) whether anyone else likes it. There are lots of shows out there that I don't like. Neither of those are things that I can help--I can't suddenly alter my subjective experience of them. So it really gets to me when people turn __their__ subjective, negative, experiences into something that's supposed to be an objective universal fact.
Meh. - Drahknon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"more like because its making almost no money"
Well, the falsehood of this aside, they can also release it sooner than the norm because it was essentially complete by last spring. The studio decided on a fall release and it sat all summer, which, I imagine, gave them plenty of time to prepare the extras. - lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Methinks DVD sales are what Whedon and Universal were banking on all along.
- PumpkinEscobar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just in time for the Holidays!!!
- teamparadox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I dont care how much it makes in Theatres, it will kill on DVD.
- Chango_Family, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2December 20th?
NO!
Serenity NOW!!!! - jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"$10 million is a lot when you consider the movie cost an estimated $40 million to make. So in the first three days of release it netted one fourth it's budget. It was said that to make a sequel they need either $50 million domestic or $80 million worldwide. And I think that included possible DVD sales. The true question is to see what happens the next few weekends."
But its nothing at all when you consider that revenue almost always drops off sharply after the first weekend. Especially with a "cult" movie like this, where all of the hardcore fans go and see it right away. It'll be lucky to make that 40 million back. There will be no sequal in theaters, barring some miracle. - bytefoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Ahh yeah, looks like it's bombing to me...
http://www.imdb.com/chart/
The formula movie studios use to calculate total box office revenues are pretty complex, but a rough estimate is seven times the opening weekend. More than enough to cover production costs. And don't even forget the european or asian releases that are pending... - bdc492s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I hope that they bring the TV show back. And continue making movies as well. These are some of my favorite characters of ever.
- SlashNot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0was a really cool movie, never saw the tv show. Ill buy it when it drops
- Ingersoll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ily,
No emotional content in my post, just the facts. It's been a crappy couple years according to the MPAA. Is it a niche movie? you bet. Poorly marketed? yep. Uninformative title? no question. No A stars? absolutely.
It got made, I liked it. Sorry if someone pissed in your cheerios this morning, but I'm still glad it got made. - FlatLine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0such a good thing to hear for all sci-fi fans!
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Planticus - Vagari, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, I thought it was a great movie. I don't mind the DVD coming out in December, but I'd like the movie to last at least a couple weeks in the theaters. :(
- thetwitfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0kick ass. I was simple blown away by the movie. just like Firefly but on the big screen.
- 70ny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I still haven't seen it yet.
Am I the only one that thinks that Firefly was just an ok series? It wasn't bad, but I'm not giddy about it. It's no Battlestar. - Ingersoll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good plan. If they strike quick they can make even more on DVD sales than the theatrical release. The built in audience is sizeable!
- TKDWILSON, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0""""Serenity NOW!!!!""""
Ha ha ha. I don't think most of them got the joke.
Eric Wilson - wolfger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What is really sad? Icespide? Because a pre-xmas DVD release is gorram shiny!
- mccarron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0$10 million is a lot when you consider the movie cost an estimated $40 million to make. So in the first three days of release it netted one fourth it's budget. It was said that to make a sequel they need either $50 million domestic or $80 million worldwide. And I think that included possible DVD sales. The true question is to see what happens the next few weekends.
- Huze, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Here are the featurettes:
- Future History
- We'll Have a Fruity Oaty Good Time
- Re-Lighting the Firefly
- What's in a Firefly - t.toe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0haha, wow, that's smart. I guess they're releasing it so soon to combat piracy issues?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://digg.com/movies/Screw_the_Movies,_I_m_Just_Gonna_Go_Buy_the_DVD_
- vileS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0My kind of release. Fast.
- test5477, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0thats fracking.....
Oh and I though it was a great movie, but I'd rather see the series back rather than buy the DVD. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have nothing against Serenity. I just get extremely annoyed when the fans go ***** crazy over it, ranking it above Schindler's List and doing all sorts of overhype like that. Fans like that have ensured that I will not be seeing it in movie theaters, they really put me off this movie.
I'll catch it on DVD and I'm sure I'll like it... and I'm also sure that it's NOT the best movie of the year. - gunbuster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It was fun. Better on big screen than on DVD. Best movie ever? Hardly. But it a breath of fresh air after the Lucas abominations. The marketing really did suck tho.. I had no idea what this Serenity thing was until someone told me to check out a show called "Firefly". Definitely too niche to make it big. Word of mouth works for quirky films like Greek Wedding... not for sci-fi.
- Kindred420, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0sweet,now i can send the series dvd and the movie to a few friends.
ive never seen buffy or the others shows from this guy,but serenity and firefly were so fun to watch. great characters - Francis_Burdett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have always assumed that this film would make the bulk of its net return in DVD sales (and we have no reason to think that the DVD sales will not be substantial) but I took as a given that the film would still bring in healthy ticket sales in the theater.
It now appears that "Serenity" may be somewhat under-performing in the theaters : as of Tuesday's box office it had slumped to 4th place behind "Corpse Bride", "A History of Violence" and "Flightplan" http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
This can only add to the amusing martyrology of the "Browncoats" - Aelwulf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Bah, part that says UK & England should say UK & Australia...
- fu_fish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Two comments: How is being the #2 movie of its opening weekend tanking? Also, in all the discussion of why it's being released to DVD so quickly, nobody has noted that releasing it on 12/20 puts it in time for Christmas.
- mucko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I really doubt this. Universal already has The Island and 40-Year-Old Virgin releasing on 12/13. Studios like to spread things out, and rightfully so.
- benb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Don't most new movies get released in about three months nowadays? I remember something about how Spider-man 2 was one of the first to start that trend, supposedly in an attempt to curb piracy.
- Ingersoll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ummm, actually it's number one among movies released on 9/30/05.
- Veloxi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm buying this as soon as its available, no question.
- tano53180, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i want the directors cut i hear its kicks ass do you know if that ones is ever going to come out
- Philbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0People I know who worked on the film say they expect it to make more on the second weekend due to it opening in a lot more theatres and word of mouth.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ingersoll, that's great. Is that yet another in the long series of "excuses" to justify the film's small box office gross? I'll be sure to add that to the list. Because, as you know, comparisons to what other crappy movies earned apparently mean something to the accountants at Universal Pictures...
- male73, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Um, I think Mr. Whedon said something like this: "And remember, amidst all the urgency to make this an event, all the work and the worry, to take two hours and just enjoy yourself. That is, after all, what all this fighting’s about." I think he wants people to have fun y'all. Shiny.
- Ingersoll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ingersoll, you're still glad that it got made even though there were no good stars, ***** storyline, no marketing, barely any word of mouth, made hardly any money? Wow.
Wow indeed Donny... I didn't say no good stars, just no egomaniacal, scientolgist, here's how you should vote "A" list stars. Neither did I say it had a ***** storyline. I did say " Is it a niche movie? you bet. Poorly marketed? yep. Uninformative title? no question. No A stars? absolutely.
It got made, I liked it. Sorry if someone pissed in your cheerios this morning, but I'm still glad it got made." - omnithrope, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"It's no Battlestar."
And thank god for that... - Gremlinclr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@70ny
"It's no Battlestar."
Darn right it's no Battlestar, Firefly was actually worth watching. - Aelwulf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Production companies don't share that much with movie theaters, hence the high cost at the concession stand. I've done my time at a theater so I've seen that first-hand. Theaters might get some of the ticket sales at the tail-end but by & large it goes right past 'em.
BSG is pretty good, but their filming style & some other aspects are a nod to Firefly. There's one part in a fleet shot that even has 'Serenity' (ie, a Firefly class ship) flying by briefly in the pilot. You can't completely slam one show & disown the other. They do have different stories & characters though so you can dislike one & like the other.
Serenity was never truly expected to be a blockbuster. It was expected to do modest & it's done modest. The person commenting on the overseas bit apparently hasn't looked into it much. Firefly has a pretty good following in UK & England along with some other areas. Currently overseas has it doing 1.5 million in Russia of all places. Total for it is now around 33 million domestic & overseas. It might not hit the 39 million cost to make it from box office but it'll get close, and DVD sales should easily push it over that (I'd guesstimate at least 50 million total the first year after DVD release). If it at least makes the 39 million gross Whedon is supposed to have financial backing agreed from Universal for 2 & 3. It was known by Universal going into it that it was a niche film. They would've loved a blockbuster but it's always been understood it was just done to make a good movie on a low budget (low for modern sci fi films anyway). - MikeDawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This is really sad.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0ingersoll, you're still glad that it got made even though there were no good stars, ***** storyline, no marketing, barely any word of mouth, made hardly any money? Wow.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Serenity is the only movie in the Top 20 (that's twenty) that actually made LESS money on Tuesday than it did on Monday. This is further proof that everyone who wanted to see the film (fans of the show) has done so, and the movie failed to attract a broader audience. This large-scale word-of-mouth marketing experiment has failed. I foresee a total domastic haul of $20-25 million. Internationally, it'll likely do much worse because, in those markets, it's mostly the star power that sells a movie, and this one has no stars. Also, has Firefly even been shown internationally? If it has, I doubt it's been any more of a success than in the U.S.
Oh, and just so we're clear... if a movie makes as much as it's production and marketing budgets combined, the studio still has to share much of this revenue with theater owners. The reason that studios want big opening weekends is because they have deals with theaters whereby studios are the main profit makers in the first two weeks. Long box office success benefits theaters more than it does studios, and big opening box office benefits studios.
For Universal Pictures, the film is a FAILURE. That's why they want to get it out on DVD as soon as possible, it's the only way for them to even come close to breaking even now. - jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Omg, Serenity fanboys kill me.
- male73, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Yes, NOW! Pleeeassee!? Gorram please?
- Rain-X, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1They are releasing it quickly before the "hard core" fans forget about it and move on to something else. Have to get as much moola out of them as soon as possible!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0In related news, Industry Experts expect the movie to be available on BitTorrent on December 21st...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Lmfao, this movie came from no place and everyone expected it to do well? With the ***** list characters and zero plot, I think I'll pass on this quick-to-dvd release due to it's lack of money.
Also, if it doesn't make at least 3/4 to 4/5 of it's budget in the first three days it IS considered a waste of money. Making the money back on what you spent isn't what you want; you want a movie like napoleon dynamite where you spend 100k and get 400m back. -
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