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- rgallagher, on 10/11/2007, -14/+126H4-RR-YP-0T-T3-RI-Z4-LO-4D-0F-GH-3Y
...quick, spread it! ;) - gootdude, on 10/11/2007, -3/+40In this case, IP stands for Intellectual Property.
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/11/2007, -2/+28"Dear Public Library,
It has come to the attention of Schoolastic Inc. that you have been distributing multiple copies of the Harry Potter series without charge and without our consent. We demand that you immediately cease and desist said distribution. We hope to rectify this problem without coming down there and wrecking up the place.
Sincerely,
Mark S. Seidenfeld
Counsel
Scholastic Inc. - scotus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22yeah but its not illegal to write about the fact that that happened, or even show a little bit to explain that it's real.
- cankillar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17Stop signing posts.
- jtgonzal, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18Any PR is good PR. It's not like millions of copies haven't _already_ been sold.
Also, this article is in the wrong topic. - Th3Element05, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Intellectual Property, something which you clearly will never have.
- davidleeroth, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15Yeah.... I'm pretty sure they're talking about intellectual property here.
- catalysis, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13HERMIONE IS WATCHING U MASTERBATE
- flashback99, on 10/11/2007, -10/+20yes let's condemn every company that tries to make money and protect its business interests.
Better yet, let's decide for them how much profit is acceptable. - falstaff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Two issues:
1) the leaking to BT is absolutely illegal, and in many cases, I support the rights of the owner to stop it. Software especially (basically a perfect replica), movies sort of (usually somewhat lower quality, and requires some extra work to get it viewable on your living room TV), but books are nearly unreadable on a monitor. Nobody downloads a book in lieu of buying it. These people would either not buy it regardless, or will end up buying a copy anyway. The BT leak means almost nothing. Try to stop it if you like, but good luck with that. And realize that you'll never make back in sales what you spend in lawyer fees.
2) Merely linking to the fact that it's been leaked is not nearly the same thing. If the leak is a fairly minor thing, then reporting about it is completely harmless. Take-downs like this are a waste of time at best, and harassment at worst. - aspec, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11I'm fairly certain that by IP Owner, they were referring to "Intellectual Property." Now stop typing before you get someone sued.
- feshmania, on 10/11/2007, -10/+19I think that everyone is missing the point that something that is Scholastic and, more important, JK Rowling's property is being stolen and released before it is supposed to be. And that's, well, illegal.
- Scyth3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I run a few rather popular p2p news sites -- trust me -- this happens a lot. I just forward them to a lawyer and then the lawyer politely responds with "linking isn't a crime".
- AndrewJC, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7scotus is absolutely correct here: There is no possible way that this isn't considered fair use. Reporting about a story like this doesn't infringe on ANYTHING, and even if you were to include one of the photos, it's absolutely Fair Use infringement.
Scholastic, as polite as they are being, has absolutely no claim to this. In fact, that guy could be brought up on perjury charges for stating that an article such as this is infringement. - mrgreen4242, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Exactly, the douchebaggery here is sending a take-down notice to a site talking about what has happened. It's like trying to sue a newspaper for reporting on a crime that's already taken place.
- Detritus, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12"Silly Internets! You can't let those 1s and 0s run around or you'll get a tummy-ache!", Excerpt from Scholastic's upcoming best seller "Bobby and the Evil Internet"
- iDiggIt42, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Yes please!
- kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Its the best book so far IMHO. There is no need to spend alot of time introducing new characters, we already know most of them.
This is it. All the hiding, all the lies all the waiting is over. The magical world is at War. This is when you see What Mcgonigal, and the rest of the teachers are really capable of. This is where you find out if the DA really has the heart for a fight. When the call is given who will come, who will hide.
Its not the greatest book ever, but I read those dam stupid jpeg pics because I couldn't stop. - counterplex, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I'm a harry potter fan but this was done too nicely to ignore :) Your comment, sir, has been dugg!
- menos, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6But TechCrunch didn't post the whole book. They just talked about it. Posting the title page in a news story would be considered fair use. At least fair use as envisioned by history.
- fober, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Internet Protocol != Intellectual Property
- danakin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Showing one page is hardly illegal.
- kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I thought to myself. I will just read the intro. then chapter one, two, three. I read the lot. I have still got the book ordered but I just couldn't stop myself.
Its a great book. But I am amazed its still a kids book. Some of the scenes involve horrific torture. There is no way I could read some of the chapters to a small child. - ronaldinho, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8sounds like a good idea
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8If they have sent it to Digg.com, Kevin would be having a violent diarrhea and quickly removing every post containing "harry potter"
- falstaff, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7These lawyers have never tried to read a book on a computer screen. If they had, they'd laugh off every attempt. It's horribly uncomfortable. The only people downloading the book are the folks looking for the spoilers a few days early, that would be online by 12:05 AM Saturday anyway. The whole effort is a complete waste of time, but lawyers have to look busy to justify the bills they send to the clients.
- meez, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Except it's not hexidecimal. Probability: 0
- Frecklefoot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I think the thing they had a problem with was the link at the bottom of the article to The Pirate Bay. The link has been removed. Of course, I could be wrong...
- echeski1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5The funny thing is that the only people who are going to actually take the time to go and download the book and read it online are the same fans that are so into Harry Potter that they already pre-ordered the book months ago (lets be honest the causual Harry Potter reader is not going to care about the book for download a few days before release). Honestly Scholastic needs to calm the ***** down and try to use this massive PR opportunity as a way to further promote the book. Instead of trying to stop torrents and those talking about them (which is impossible) what they should saying is "look how popular our new Harry Potter book is."
- WoollyMittens, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4They can do whatever the hell they want, but they can't make up laws. As far as I know reporting the leak as news is protected free speech.
- thebarkingdog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I downloaded it. I was planning on getting in line at midnight, but now I'll just buy it on Saturday or Sunday. By then, I'll have read about half of it at least, and yeah, it is horribly uncomfortable.
- akeating, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Yeah, props to the legal team that's making a killing off this. I don't really blame them, they're just looking for some easy money from the asshat higher-ups.
- johnpaul191, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5seriously.... i don't know how much the harry potter book costs, but anyone that wants to read a 700 page book photographed into a massive PDF document is insane. you'll probably need glasses after trying that, and a bottle of advil. i can only assume that people 1) want to know who dies then just wait for the movie, and 2) just want it to say they have it.
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I would call this "reporting" not "promoting." I think trying to stop people from writing about things that are happening is "chilling".
- lburgguy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3See, I'm the kind who would download something like this just to see what all the fuss is about and then after liking it (presumably) I would then go out and buy the entire series of books.
- akeating, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I believe that they linked to the torrent.
- sofong, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The New York Times bought a copy the 18th at a bookstore http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/19/books/19potter.html?_r=1 The publisher is bonkers and instead of threatening bloggers, should be seeking refund for the $20 million they spent trying to keep it under wraps. The entire thing just amps up people's desire to get a copy of the printed book in their hands. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if they planned it themselves.
- iDiggIt42, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2No, they did not.
- xaxxon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It wasn't so bad if you had a decent photo program to increase contrast/reduce exposure. I used iphoto and it did a pretty good job. There were probably only 6-8 pages I couldn' read. I don't *think* I missed anything. Anyway, I'll just go back and make sure when I get the book this weekend.
- lowerlogic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Companies need to realize that once something gets on the internet, it is there for good. You can't put the ***** back in the horse.
- whiterussian, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It's pretty funny how pathetic you are. You create a screenname called PotterHater and you end your list of spoilers (that no Harry Potter fan will actually read) with the sentence "Now go outside and play ya hosers," as if those who want to read the book are hermetic nerds who spend all their time reading (god forbid). When in actuality you have spent more energy than most people, posting on every Harry Potter thread you can find, trying to prove that you are right. So let's say you are right and these are the spoilers from the book. Who gives a *****? Do you expect people to read the book, come back to this thread and say, "PotterHater was right! Wow, he's a pretty cool guy"? Everyone who is posting these spoilers don't get the big picture. People love Harry Potter and they want to read the book. Just let them enjoy for it god's sake. I've never even read the books or seen the movies, but christ, just leave them alone.
- h3r0, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2there'll*
- ripter, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Scholastic is not the book owner, they have the rights to publish the book in the US
- doshindude, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Win. You Win.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Being legal and ethical aren't necessarily the same, just because something is ILLEGAL doesn't make it WRONG. There are plenty of stupid laws around and there are laws in other countries that allow for raped women to be stoned to death.
I downloaded the HP7 torrent and have already read the book on my PSP, but I'm still going to buy it since I want the series and other people in my family will want to read it also. I download other books also, if I didn't download them I would just be getting them from the library which is more time consuming and inconvenient. In both cases my downloading hasn't cost anyone money. Possibly the library funding is based on amount of rentals and the funding goes to buying books from authors but I still rent from the library anyway but the amount of books I download wouldn't be possible to rent. - kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I downloaded it, I read it. My book will be delivered from play.com on Saturday.
Yes I cheated, but no, they didn't lose a penny from me. - WoollyMittens, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yes. You are right, but reporting this as news is not illegal.
- n00854180t, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You are a ***** moron, and should go jump in a fire. Discussing the fact there is copyrighted material on the Internet != copyright infringement. What you are claiming is, in effect, equivalent to claiming that newspapers that discuss a murder are guilty of that murder themselves. Grow a ***** brain.
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