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- borez, on 01/03/2009, -0/+39Yeah, right... piracy is really killing them off.
/s - Minters, on 01/03/2009, -0/+15And remember kids, internet piracy is killing the entertainment industry!
- cd419, on 01/03/2009, -0/+14Since when did liberal == anti-American ?
- tavallai, on 01/03/2009, -2/+13Cultural hegemony anyone?
- Dumbledorito, on 01/03/2009, -0/+10Not really, but it does explain why most of them contain things that need no translation: Explosions, *****, crotch-hits, and car chases.
But if this thesis of yours really is meant seriously, I suppose you (as many do) maintain that Hollywood is entirely anti-gun while pumping out more bullet-ridden stories than 1920's Chicago on a coke bender. - Dumbledorito, on 01/03/2009, -1/+11I've noticed that the crappier a movie is in America (i.e. the "Garfield" movies and most teen comedies) the better it does overseas.
I think the translators are either writing better dialogue or these movies undergo some kind of metamorphosis in other countries after they stop eating so much fast food and are divorced from cable news for a while. - Dumbledorito, on 01/03/2009, -0/+10Hollywood (as an industry) has only one agenda: Make money by putting out stuff people will pay to see. Yes, ideologues make films, but that's like saying the guy making a VW Bus that runs on used french fry grease represents the whole auto industry.
If dystopia sells, then dystopia is made. And what you list is a mere fraction of the studio output. If there's a larger message from the whole, it's probably "after many screwball events, you'll find true love and a pop music soundtrack," or "when trouble strikes, an ex-cop who breaks all the rules will save the world." - Dumbledorito, on 01/03/2009, -1/+8It's hard to nail down how much a movie actually makes due to Hollywood's accounting practices, which are designed to appear that no movie makes much of a profit in case they get sued. Just about every film gets an "I had that idea FIRST!" lawsuit, and some are quite valid. But, thanks to nebulous "expenses" like "catering" and "office supplies," money can be funneled to a studio head or other part of the parent company without appearing to be part of the final take.
And a lot of films got sequels BECAUSE of how well they did overseas (without which we wouldn't have "Robocop 3" and "Garfield 2," among others), so I find the idea that little of the cash from abroad is making it home a bit dubious. - oda1, on 01/03/2009, -1/+8I guess foreigners enjoy mindless-action as well.
- AdrianKRAZY, on 01/03/2009, -1/+8I guess this stuff happens when you keep building more and more cinema's. Hrmm,
- Jeebugorn, on 01/03/2009, -0/+7imagine how much money they'd have made without piracy!
/sarcasm - Radan, on 01/03/2009, -0/+6What the hell are you talking about? Almost every single movie that Hollywood as spewed out for the last decade has had some kind of bad ass American hero saving the world. Can you give me one example of a movie that portrays the U.S in a bad way?
- cheez, on 01/03/2009, -2/+7Every movie hollywood puts out breaks a box-office record because they don't adjust these figures for inflation. I think (though I may be wrong) that the top-grossing film adjusted for inflation is still Gone with the Wind.
Economics FTW!
EDIT: yup
http://www.the-movie-times.com/thrsdir/alltime.mv? ...
Dark Knight is 23rd - EatingPie, on 01/03/2009, -1/+6FTA: "How much each collected depends on whether films were co-financed, how international rights deals were cut and how much went to theater owners."
Very important fact that is glossed over by many articles. Hollywood tends not to consider international box office because they only make a small percentage of those totals.
The Golden Compass made $70M domestic, a financial failure. However, it pulled $300M international, which would be a handy profit... if that *whole* $300M came back to the studio. But even with those numbers, only a small percentage of international returns came back, and the movie was such a disaster that it caused the closure (aka "restructuring") of the studio that made it.
-Pie - Stormwern, on 01/03/2009, -0/+4On the other hand, it also doesn't include revenue from DVD sales, TV lisencing and merchandise.
- icarus2oo2, on 01/03/2009, -0/+4syntaxgssyntaxgs i'd get your sarcasm detector serviced as it would appear to have stopped functioning
- Dumbledorito, on 01/03/2009, -0/+4Jeeze, will you get over yourself? The top 10 film grosses overseas belong to:
1. Titanic (1997) $1,244,246,000
2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) $741,859,899
3. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001) $658,900,000
4. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007) $649,000,000
5. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007) $645,000,000
6. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006) $637,300,000
7. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002) $604,400,000
8. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005) $602,200,000
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) $581,200,000
10. Jurassic Park (1993) $563,000,000
I guess you could call #2-#9 "un-American" because it blatantly highlights the U.S.'s "wizard and pirate gap," and I suppose #10 is anti-American if you think dinosaurs were a trick by Satan. Oh, and #1 had a hit song by a Canadian, so, wow, that MUST be a slam against the United States.
Here's the rest of the list: http://madeinatlantis.com/movies_central/charts/in ...
And stop listening to talk radio for movie reviews. Just go rent something you like and stop giving yourself high blood pressure over what some O'Riley clone tells you. - allieytim, on 01/03/2009, -0/+4I dont think there is any impact on the box office due piracy.
it is just there to help the needy. - Dumbledorito, on 01/04/2009, -0/+2On a similar note: Watch "The Phantom Menace" with the Spanish language track on. Everyone sounds muy macho, even Jar-Jar. The Jedi have never had such cajones!
- buddypriefert, on 01/04/2009, -0/+2@dicksoh:
In 2007 alone: Redacted, Rendition, In the Valley of Elah, and Lions for Lambs.
That's 3.
Now dicksoh, you are welcome to dispute. Didn't think so. - DeviantDragon, on 01/04/2009, -0/+2I like how you list Hotel Rwanda even though it's past on a PAST event.
- comfortssimple, on 01/04/2009, -0/+2Shocker, hollywood needs to stop all their bitching!
- Dumbledorito, on 01/03/2009, -0/+2"Moichendising! Where de REAL money is made!" -Yogurt, "Spaceballs"
- Minters, on 01/04/2009, -0/+2Believe it or not, the entire world does not revolve around the USA.
The one thing that is guaranteed to make us skip a film is the "Yay America, ***** everyone else" attitude that I think "Team America: World Police" got across so well. We dont hate America (well.... most of us dont). We hate the "holier than thou" attitude. - philatsquidoo, on 01/03/2009, -0/+2¨That's very interesting, specially in times of the Bootleg downloads which once was quoted as the death of the movie industry.
I've bought a few month ago a great software to download movies over a squidoo lens and use this very often, anyhow, I still love to go to the movie theater as nothing beats the sound and impression of a wide screen and THX.
Phil - biergutlol, on 01/03/2009, -0/+2I find that the dubbing significantly alters actors performances. They get mixed with the voice actors performances and it gets hard to distinguish good from bad. Most top voice actors in germany actually sound like they're mostly nice people. So even guys like Tom Cruise seem a lot more likeable on the german screen
- diskoh, on 01/03/2009, -2/+4@buddyprifert, you couldn't name 1 mainstream hollywood movie in the last decade that portrayed US Military men/women as bad guys. you're full of *****.
- diskoh, on 01/04/2009, -0/+1none of those films portrayed soldiers negatively whatsoever. apparently you are under the impression that if you don't portray war as glamorous then you are portraying soldiers negatively. i'd wager you haven't seen any of those movies, as some of them don't even portray soldiers at all.
- gbudavid, on 01/02/2009, -13/+149.9 billion reasons why the movies are generally anti-American
- diskoh, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1would you mind finding a review or article about the anti-US soldier aspects of Rendition?
- kahn2001, on 01/03/2009, -1/+2lol
- Giga, on 01/04/2009, -0/+1You bought _what_?
- Minters, on 01/04/2009, -0/+1Well there you go again, talking down to people from other countries. Apparently Im pissed off at having ugly women and goats to *****. I have a rock-rubble ***** hole to come to in a green shoebox car
You talk about flag burning. Well Ive never ever ever seen a flag of ANY country set on fire over here. We just dont hold the level of hatred for other countries that you clearly seem to. If we were to burn any flag, I can assure you it wouldnt be a red, white and blue one. Go to google image search and look up "Union Jack". Thats the flag of Great Britain and its a combination of the flags of England, Scotland and Wales.
FYI, a lot of our women are absolutely beautiful, despite what your stereotypes over there might say. As for goats, well Ive barely even seen any goats in this country. I have a llama farm near me, do they count? And as for my detatched, 4 bedroom house in a quiet cul-de-sac, out in the country away from any major towns or cities, which I come home to in my yellow (Not green, sorry) sports car.....
We dont hate America. We hate people like YOU. - Minters, on 01/04/2009, -0/+1We arent anti-American. We are anti-people-like-YOU.
- jahayiti, on 01/08/2009, -0/+1Rachel Getting Married
- inactive, on 01/04/2009, -0/+1buddypriefart, what an enlightened soul you are. I suggest you haul your junk-food-padded body out of bed and stop whining. Oh, and grow up.
- buddypriefert, on 01/04/2009, -1/+1Well gee, what do you think? Doesn't it make plain sense that if your target audience is in Russia, that you would show Russia in a positive light? So I guess Rocky should have lost to Drago or whatever his name was?
You guys are welcome to make your own block buster films, doing the old "Yay <insert home country here>". We (Americans) won't whine about it and will try to enjoy the film for what it's worth. - buddypriefert, on 01/04/2009, -1/+1Yeah. Most people who are #2 and beyond tend to have that attitude towards #1. It started with the French after we bailed their lazy liberal asses out of WWI and II and spread as further escalated when we sent men to the moon, birthed the PC and Internet that you are typing on, etc. etc.
The only flags I see burning are red.white and blue (possibly a Star of David). You guys are just pissed off at having ugly women or goats to f**** and a rock-rubble ***** hole to come home to everyday in your tiny shoebox green car. - buddypriefert, on 01/04/2009, -1/+1Okay, lets start with 2007 alone:
Rendition
In the Valley of Elah
Redacted
Lions for Lambs
Stop Loss
The Kingdom
The Bourne Ultimatum
....nah., I'll let you Google the rest for 2008.
So there.... ;) - pippister74, on 05/28/2009, -0/+0what does Hollywood have to complane about? People still go to the movies. TV is hotter than ever. Movie sales are soring. Even in this bad economy
- buddypriefert, on 01/04/2009, -1/+1Sounds like a little foreigner envy. We aren't debating which country makes the best films. We Americans know that. If you would have read the article and my comment, we are talking 2008 (non of your googled list have any 2008 films). I stated that the surge in popularity in 2008 among "other countries" is the fact that they made America in a bad light, something you foreign madd asses (as proven by your post) enjoy.
- inactive, on 01/03/2009, -3/+3Dragonball Evolution will be the best movie ever.
- buddypriefert, on 01/04/2009, -0/+0dicksoh you are out of your mind. All 4 of them are undisputed by practically the whole globe (except for you of course) as being negative on US soldiers.
I suppose you think that no one can "be under the impression" that Fahrenheit 911 is anti-Bush until the actually see it right?
You are a joke dicksoh. - inactive, on 01/03/2009, -3/+3They may have broken box office record for overseas, but they're still down $5 billion in loss, when you take into account domestic revenue and cost for marketing and producing the films.
http://www.the-numbers.com/ - vptel, on 01/03/2009, -2/+2(superhero just killed baddie and has final line)
credit crunch this - 4eloBek, on 01/03/2009, -4/+2has dl record been broken yet?
- inactive, on 01/03/2009, -6/+4Hollywood is warning us:
V for vendetta
matrix
children of men
minority report
the island
1984
a brave new world
blood diamond
hotel rwanda
Syriana
The constant gardner
time machine
scanner darkly
star wars
eagle eye
shoot em up
simpsons movie
eyes wide shut
the good shepard
the pelican breif
serenity
all the president's men
three days of the condor
rollover - syntaxgs, on 01/03/2009, -6/+3no it isn,t, as you can tell by the 99 billion Dollars on this Article.., wasn,t that the Point of the article?
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