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- meangene, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4But I paid extra for the happy ending.
- Tialys, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Simple solution: STOP THE CRAPPY REMAKES AND SEQUELS!
I went to the theater yesterday to see The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe, and saw 3 remake trailer, and 3 sequels... come ON. Something new and good would get MY sale... even if ticket prices are RIDICULOUS. - SniperGX1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think it has to do with the number of boycotters. Who thought suing your customer wasn't a good business practice.
- skellener, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2-Stop showing commercials at movie theaters.
-Stop making sequels.
-Stop making remakes.
-Stop making old TV shows into movies.
-Stop Michael Bay.
-Start making good original movies.
Then again, what do I know? The best movie all year, "Serenity", didn't pull in the big audience or big bucks it deserved. At least Joss Whedon proved a high quality action, special effects heavy film, could be done locally here in the US, in LA, as a union production without those ridiculously high budgets (over $100 million) of the summer movies. I applaud him for that. - dmoffitt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2considering how many ads, the retarded price, and the almost abusive way the theater employees treat you, it's no small wonder people would rather break the law and pirate a movie to watch at home instead. even as a filmmaker, i prefer seeing all but the most epic (LotR / StarWars ish) films at home at this point...
- crazyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Stop giving 60 million Dollars to Cheaper By the Dozen 2 also just make a movie with a story. For example look how much Lord of the Rings grossed because the Director TRIED.
- fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The simultaneous DVD and theater release sounds great, because then they'll have to sell the theater version solely on the theater experience. Hopefully that means they'll improve conditions, i.e. no more 30 minutes of commercials.
- deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm sure it has nothing to do with $2 candy bars, $5 hot dogs, $4 sodas and 25 minutes of previews...
Stupid ass movie makers can't blame P2P for this one... ha ha ha
Personally, I hate the modern movie experience. The only movie I paid to see this year are Revent Of The Sith and War Of The Worlds, of which the latter sucked horribly. The -only- reason I paid to see ROTS is the DLP projection system available where I live. -That- was sweet. - knellotron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think they should take a year off from wasting their money on those horribly expensive film budgets and start sueing their customers full-time.
- spc2226, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's just the atmosphere of the theater, IMO. For a kid, you need to "save" to go to a damn theater nowadays. You don't just pay $9 a pop for each ticket, but also $10 for a Medium popcorn and medium soda. Take a girl? You are looking at $38 for that movie. Might as well just buy the DVD, a box of popcorn, and a 12-pack of coke. You'd save some money.
- Hiker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I take my own popcorn. The popping noise tends to annoy the patrons in front of me but what can you do?
- tdkyo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1>>Stop giving 60 million Dollars to Cheaper By the Dozen 2
All that money spent and it still didn't persuaded me to watch either Cheaper by the Dozen 1 or 2. :-| - toad3k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I watched 4 movies in theaters last year. They were the only ones that looked good. Netflix is a hundred times better.
- NippleNutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If your going to charge me 20$ for my wife and I to see a movie make it a damn good movie. If you are going to continue with the slop out there drop the ticket prices to $4.95 . I feel ripped off for the 3.99 for a pay per view movie most of the time let alone 20$ with having to watch 20 minutes of adverts.
- Solarusdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was reading "The Wealth of Nations" the other day and I got this crazy radical idea for attracting more theater patrons: LOWER THE TICKET PRICES. Has it ever occurred to these movie producers that maybe people are not going to the theaters b/c movies these days don't justify the price of the tickets?
- spudwrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree with most comments here... Most movies lately suck big time and all of the damn prequels, sequels and remakes are getting really annoying. Can't Hollywood think of anything entertaining and original??
And the cost to go to a movie is nuts! $9 for a ticket, $3 for an 8oz soda and $5 for 75cents worth of popcorn is really F@#$ed up.
And then you have to deal with the random idiots "watching" the movie while shining their damn laser pointer at the screen during the movie. - thetron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thats the offical word from Universal Australian distribtor. They don't get the master copy of Serenity from Theractical partners until 29th Feburary and the release date is March 7th
- ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Nuff said. - docmanhattan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Perhaps 14+ remakes in one year might contribute to declining sales.
- whitefael, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just to restate what others have said, I also thought the movies released this year were horrible. There wasn't anything released that made me say, "WOW! I really need to see that!" At $8 a movie plus $25 for drinks and popcorn, I figure I can save money by buying the DVD and watching it at home with my wife, microwave some popcorn, and pop open a Coke (or beer, which you can't get at a theatre), for much less. If the movie sucks, I can sell the DVD on half.com and recoup my money.
Also, the theatre experience really sucks now because of all the ringing cell phones and the crying babies. Turn off the cells and get a babysitter. If you can't afford one, don't go to the movies! - diargasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think theatre culture is dying by itself. I don't enjoy seeing movies anymore in theatres because of all the immature kids, expensive junk food, and lack of original films. And I believe that home televisions are becoming more and more like the cinema experience, so many people just decide it wait for the dvd.
- scarabic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Remakes. Sequels. Tom Cruise. $12 tickets. Commercials.
Declining sales? Oh really? - badle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How about quit making me pay $8.50 and then showing me 20 minutes of commercials. That and actually get some cops/employees into the theaters and stop all the loud talking and cell phone calls.
- stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Duh. You executive types cannot figure it out? here ya go:
1) Theaters are junk. Bad projection quality, employees that don't care, dirty conditions, talking teenagers, advertisements, higher prices.
2) Movies are junk. Try finding some decent actors outside of the 10 you know. Get some writers that have talent and directors that care.
But I'm sure the MPAA execs will still blame it on piracy. Morons. - auratus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My wife and I went out to a movie last night as a result of getting some free tickets from Albertsons when buying groceries. We decided to buy some food there since we were getting in free anyway. BIG mistake - my wife has now been throwing up all night as a result of the cheeseburger she ate.
Also, the screen had a small but noticeable tear in the screen just left of center a few feet from the top. It bugged me the entire movie.
And to top it off, the movie wasn't even that good.
With experiences like this, Hollywood is wondering why I'd rather spend my entertainment dollars elsewhere? Are these people really THAT clueless and wrapped up in their own little world? Their fall will be fun to watch. Now that I'll be paying $$$ for a front row seat! - kakapu4u, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15 years ago, tickets were $7 without car commercials or drink commercials before the movie previews.
I am voting with my wallet that the 40% price increase to $10 per ticket is no longer worth my time. It would be acceptable if the price stayed back at $7 or even went down, thanks to the advertising money of those pre-movie commercials. How does it make sense to charge us more AND make us watch commercials? It's like the price increase from the pre-commercials-before-movie days is what we PAY to watch them now. I don't think anyone likes paying extra to watch commercials... - felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wonder how many YEARS it will take the movie industry to pay attention. Look at the comments here - the only debate seems to be what sucks worse: the quality of the movies or the quality of the theaters.
An entrepeneur with the right backing could make a killing competing with the theater chains, assuming they could get past the trust (as in anti-trust laws) the industry works under.
1) Start a chain of theaters that plays only the best "blockbusters," mixed with some of the great independent and foreign titles that come out.
2) Hire ushers, assign seats. First-come, first-serve, or maybe a reservation system. Or try an alternate pricing scheme...
3) Stadium seating is ok, it's the one thing the megaplexes get right, or try a nice spread out incline like the Vista in Los Angeles.
4) Spend money on maintenance. Don't let dirty or ripped screens stay that way. Check the sound system on a regular basis, and actually monitor volume levels for each showing. Consistency counts.
5) Have designated "family shows" when it's ok to bring kids, and other showings where no one under 18 is allowed, no matter what the rating. You could even charge a premium for these "no brats" shows.
6) You talk, you walk. Stick to a strict "shut the hell up" policy. An usher would remove a patron who talked all through an opera or a play, same deal here. While we're at it, ban any candy that comes in a crinkly plastic wrapper.
7) Stop being stingy with the screens. No one wants to go out to the movies and get a screen barely bigger than your uncle Louie's home theater in his basement. Dazzle us.
Put all these things together, and I'd happily pay twice the ticket price to go. I wouldn't even care if there were a couple commercials beforehand. - TheKillDoctor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Admission is way to much to spend for something I can't pause while I take a pee.
- Machine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You know, these kinds of posts should be polls instead... most everyone has the same responses... movies suck... they cost too much... the theater experience is bad... Hollywood doesn't have decent new ideas... tiny URL... etc.
- cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Cheaper by the dozen 2 cost 60 million to make? LOL, no wonder they aren't seeing as much profit. I've always thought that capitalism would solve this little problem."
If you look at the movie and theater industry its all unions and socialism - capitalism is not allowed to work properly. There are way too many deals and price fixing.
Think of all the great movies made before the 80s. You didnt need to pay an actors million, hundreds of millions, to make a good movie. - cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Its all the fault of piracy - I knew when there were record box office days and record piracy that 99% of Americans are downloading their movies.
- Trunks4191, on 10/12/2007, -0/+02 words for the Cellphone problem IN THEARTERS
CELLPHONE JAMMERS - ImaFraud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Everyone knows that if you want the happy ending it's going to cost at least $60.00 extra...
Everybody loves the hookers..
\Which explains my wicked case of VD.
\I'm itchy ;( - orangetiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If the movies that were put out by them were decent, then yeah i'd might go to see it. But im tired of rehashes that destroy the quality of the origional movie, uninspired writing, crappy acting, and the pushing of said move down my throat. This is why I buy independent movies and go to their showings instead. Hollywood isn't in trouble, it's obsolete. There's no hunger for quality work. So none come out
- starvinz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Two words. Cell phones.
Ban them from theaters and I will think about visiting a theater again. Quality and experience has gone down while the prices rise. They wonder why people pirate the product. The entertainment industry needs to rethink how to entertain instead of worrying about the bottom line first. If it's entertaining people are going to pay what they think its worth. If it isn't they aren't going to watch it in the first place. Seems simple enough to me. - mdb451, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I went to a show and about halfway into it a kid about 2 years old that I had never seen before came up to me and sat in my lap. The mother didn't even know it was gone.
- dpknc84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@silentbobsc "I don't care how ***** you think your job is, YOU DON'T GIVE THE CUSTOMER *****! I can't stand it when people think because their job is ***** it somehow entitles them to pass it on to the customer. STOP BEING A GOD DAMNED BRAT!"
Calm down for a second alright. Let me explain something.
For the most part working at a movie theater isn't a bad job. In fact the turnover rate for employees is high because it's so mundane and alot of the people employeed are of the younger generation.
You are correct in stating that you should be nice to the customer and for the most part I agree. However, there's a line to be drawn when the customer is up in your face being a complete idiot. It's a stressful job as you are having to deal with tons of people all the time. Don't tell me it's not, you go to a theater opening day at a Harry Potter film and deal with the thousands of little kids screaming at you, you're going to get stressed.
It's the most frustrating thing because you get to see how much of a slob society is. Those theaters are nasty. Especially with stadium seating (stepped theater) there is a rush to get people into the theater for the next show so that clean time to do a "good job" is reduced because of the back wall behind each seat leading up to the next stair of seats. Alot of the time you are sitting on a seat with trash swept underneath so that the bottom line can be met and you, the ticket holder can go be happy and watch your movie. At night a special cleanup crew would use leaf blowers to move all the trash down to the bottom.
If the theater showing time rolls around and people aren't going in (and there's a line) people get angry. Regardless we wouldn't roll the film if we see a line of people waiting so people just need to calm down.
All of you people buying concessions should stop complaining and just not buy them. I could tell you stories. Alot of theaters don't have a sanitation grade per say and stuff goes on behind those breakroom/storage doors. We had a manager that would throw ice back into the bin if he saw it on the floor. That ice is used in concession drinks. There's worse but I'll spare you.
Same with that popcorn you think is "fresh" in the bin. If too much is popped by the last showing, it's bagged and reused the next morning, mixed with the old. I think they have a limit on how often they'll do that now though.
Don't take your anger out on me. About 98% of the time I was the nicest employee you could ever deal with. It's just when Joe big-blockhead comes knocking thinking he has more priority than everyone that you walk the line. - Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I like how the article didn't even begin to mention piracy... which is good, because piracy is definitely not a major issue. Kick-ass movies kick ass on the big screen in a way they don't when viewing a *****-ass cam or DiVX rip on your monitor. The movies are mostly 'meh' the last few years, coupled by increasingly stale experiences at the theater.
1. Ticket prices continue to rise.
2. ***** cell phones. ***** CELL PHONES. Dammit!
3. Gigli. I mean, if that isn't an indictment of movie studios, what is? - Rndm_Tngnt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+090% of Box office proceeds go directly to the studio. (Even) Higher Priced concessions are a sympton of low audience turn out, not the cause.
- jafojsharp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You know. I was a manager at a video store and every tuesday when the new titles came out one guy would always call to hold about 6 of them and was the first one in line when the store opened. He was retired, had about 6 or 7 VCR's recording inline and duped all those movies for the senior citizen community home he attended. Those people can;t make it to theaters so he was doing them a favor, but it was all analog, so, yes there is still an analog hole until the tv and projector producers find a way to infect the recording medium somehow that would be invisible to the human eye.
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No, you are all missing it. The cause for the drop in sales isn't crappy movies, high ticket prices, and poor viewing environments. It is clearly piracy! Time for the MPAA to start suing everyone with a broadband connection. Expect facts like this to be brought up to try and push trough the next round of enforced copy protection, including clising the alleged "analog hole".
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"ilyag: That's the point everyone is making. The MPAA is loosing money because they're spending their biggest budgets on the crappiest films."
No, they're spending their biggest MARKETING budgets on the crappiest films. That's why you hear about stuff like Bewitched a hell of a lot more than you hear about stuff like Munich (which, in my opinion, is the best film of the year... and had a very big production budget, too). - crpietschmann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It would cost my wife and I about $16 to see a movie in the theater. That doesn't even include concessions. So it's either we go see two movies ($32) in the theater or we go to the local movie rental store and buy three previewed new releases for $10 bucks each.
They we see it is, 3 movies for $30 and we can watch them as many times as we want or 2 movies for $32 and we can only watch them once.
It gets even better when the store has a deal of 2 movies for $15.
Yo, MPAA get the idea? - rotten03, on 10/12/2007, -0/+01. Unoriginal Movie ideas
2. In-theatre advertising
3. Expensive tickets
4. Expensive food
Why wont the movie theatre tell me when the movie REALLY starts?? - thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0in other words: movies got ***** for the 3rd year in a row.
worst thing ever was the worthless ass jumanji remake! how did this get out of the drawing room? - pats1237, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"...consumers are changing their movie-viewing habits because of multiple complaints related to theatergoing: soaring ticket costs, high parking and candy-concession prices, and, perhaps, decreased enjoyment of the movie-house experience because of unruly audiences and a growing number of on-screen ads."
The article could have been that long and summed up the problems for the MPAA
They continue to treat us like ***** we treat them like ***** - cosulliv755, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Man, I never thought I'd say this.. but remember "Giggly".. those were the ***** days...
compared to the wholesale "***** fest" that has been the cinematic experience this past year...
come back benifer... we didn't mean it !!!
WE DIDN'T MEAN IT !!!..
OK we did mean it. but were sorry.
OK, were not sorry, you suck ass... - SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ok, maybe the caps was a bit much, but I get really tired of this entitled mindset that most kids have these days. I've done everything from washing dishes and cleaning out puke-filled bathrooms to my current IT job.
Now, I understand the dumba$$ customer all up in your face, try working dialup in a small rural town. There is no end of people who think that you, the technician, are the one who infected their computer with spyware and that it's our fault that they crammed a 3.5" CD into the floppy drive. Regardless, I don't mouth of to our customers. We do vent to one another, but it never reaches the customer. I was raised (born in 74) with the idea of respecting others and do the job you signed up for. Don't take my rage as a personal attack towards you, as much as an attack on all the little brats out there today that could stand to learn a thing or two from my grandfather.
SB - Rndm_Tngnt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Also, the problem with noise spillover is sort of the fault of the theater (though I guess you could blame the Post mixer).
Most theaters (that is, not built in the last decade) are rated to play at 85db max. The loudest thing should never exceed 85. Theater owners, responding to complaints (either legitimate from dialogue being mixed to low or from people that are just going deaf) crank the volume to peak around 120db. When you get to a huge action sequence you get mega bleed because the walls can't absorb all the sound.
The more you knoooooow. - flintmich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Remember the SNL skit "Lazy Sunday" -- they buy food at a deli because the theater is overpriced. And they see "Narnia" because it's "a dreamworld of magic" -- the fact this skit has made it into the Web hall of fame should tell the theater owners something.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=314439751336170262&q=lazy+sunday -
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