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- scadam526, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26Its called fiction, calm down.
- ItsGus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24The book that The Da Vinci Code is based on came out before National Treasure was written... your comment is like saying lord of the rings ripped off Willow
- Takteek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Why all the negative?!
I think it looks very good. - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18yeah, clam down. It's not like people would believe what a book says and devote there life to it.
.. oh, wait a second. - ItsGus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19it's FICTION
- volcompimp, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Putting aside the fact that I'm agnostic and may not believe certain aspects of the movie, it still looks good. You guy's need to put your religious beliefs aside, it's a trailer for a thriller movie not Passion of the Christ (which I file under Sci-FI at my work).
- joshduck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I would ordinarily say this film is going to be rubbish but it has a Ron Howard, Ian McKellen, Audrey Tautou and Tom Hanks attached. It looks like it could be quite good.
- EmileVictor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10People still believe it though.
- ErifNeerg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"I'd have no objection to the book and film if it had been accurately promoted and treated simply as a work of fiction, but its author and its publisher have continuiously gone out of their way to harp on about it being based on proven, documented fact."
yea, that's the one thing that kinda pisses me off but i know people will so realize that. - DisembarkedOne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Incase anyone needs a YouTube mirror.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=1QGT6E_Yxu4
- w0mbat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9@diargasm
There's no problem with christians doing science, just as long as they're scientific about it. What people object to is people taking a zealous religious approach to a scientific issue (like creationism/ID).
Religion is dogmatic, it is an intellectual dictatorship. It says, "THIS IS THE WAY IT IS - IT IS THE WORD OF GOD". There's no debate, no updating old ideas as new discoveries are made. Science demands that all assertions are scrutinized, not just accepted as fact because some pompous authority decreed it.
"BECAUSE I SAID SO, THAT'S WHY" is not a reasoned argument.
Nice sweeping generalisation about Muslims, btw. Sits uncomfortably with your "Don't criticize religion" argument, however. - ItsGus, on 10/12/2007, -14/+19This is going to be a great movie!
- vertigoblue, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10zybch, you along with most of the other people in the religious world need to realize this is fiction and its entertainment, its sad that you think its crap just because you don't believe in it... your not supposed to believe in it!
- eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5...at least not recently... then again, even the crusades were politically oriented under the guise of religion...
- hater2win, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Whether you believe in jesus, satan, or science, the one thing that stands true is that everyone has faith in something. Faith is what those people in need look for. Wherever they find it is where they find it, you can't go through your life without having faith in something.
- uglymike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I agree. I can relate all parts of that trailer back to the parts of the book very easily. I think Howard has done a bang up job on this one. At first I thought Tom Hanks was a bad choice, but he does scrub up well from the look of it. For all the haters of this book, I think it is a very insteresting story. Its the first book I had read in ages and I found it exciting and interesting. A great work of fiction, just like the book the story was based on.
- ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Wow, you dont even know what this movie is about? (or the book) - you are one ignorant son of a bitch
- obscurelyfamous, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5There's no need to digg you down. If anything, your comment should stay as a reminder of your own obliviousness.
The book is a fiction which goes against fundamental Christian and Catholic ideals. There's nothing pro-Christian about it-- many would argue it is the opposite.
It's a good read. A simple but very thrilling book that reads just like a movie. The trailer makes the movie look like it was ripped straight from the pages-- a good sign. - eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6buh? The Da Vinci Code is all anti-christian and such, or so the claims are, jeeze. Research it first. I'll digg you down for ignorance, not faith.
- eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm excited to see it... I put it on the same level has Harry Potter when it comes to the controversy... Sometimes a story is just a story. Dan Brown did with Da Vinci Code what Michael Crichton did with Eaters of the Dead, which I feel, is genius, not only did they write a fictional story, they came up with fictional references on top of it. Utterly brilliant and creative. So what if some people decide its real? It's not Dan Brown's fault they're buying into his self-admitted work of fiction.
So, this one happens to rehash gnosticism(wiki it), who cares? I want some Ron Howard and Tom Hanks lovin! - eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Agreed. Athiests happen to believe in themselves... Some might say thats scary, and messianic, hehe.
- diargasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"The Führer is deeply religious, though completely anti-Christian; he views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race."
-Joseph Goebbels, in his diary, December 28, 1939
"Christianity is the prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society."
-Adolf Hitler, 1941
And Incans? What does that have to do with the Crusades? The spanish were hardcore/crazy. - eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3w0mbat: There's entire libaries of books which would disagree with your comment about religion debating and questioning things. Not to mention countless schisms... wait! That's kinda like the different schools in science that seek to explain things with different theories that are equally acceptable! CRAZY! But hey, dont let me get in the way of picking a fight. LOVE YOU!
*steps away*
edit: And if you want to take it further, sure there are certain things taken as solid basis to argue from, but thats again, no different than science, which has basic theories that are taken as fact and built upon. - IndyRev, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Um...I'm a Christian and I've had hundreds of questions about my faith, that's what keeps me beleieving. If I had facts sitting in front of me about my religion it wouldn't be much of a faith commitment would it? It would require about as much faith as stating that the world is a sphere. We all know the world is round and sphere-like, we don't need to question it. With something as important as origins, and beleifs and faith commitments, there should always be quesioning, otherwise we're just brain-washed zombie-like creatures following the words being said to us by those in authority. If you ask any Christian why he beleives what he belives, and he can't explain it, well, don't be so hard on him, some of us are newer than others, and some of us aren't the best with words and debating. It's kind of like having your girl ask you why you love her, what the hell do you say to that? You just do because you know it deep down. Some christians can defend their beliefs, others struggle, it shouldn't be a statement of they validity of what they beleive.
- MadMac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Agreed. Angels and Demons in my opinion would have made a much more exciting movie. If Da Vinci Code does well, I bet we will see Angels and Demons within a couple years.
- adam.lindsay, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I look forward to this being a success, for no other reason then to piss off the religious crazies.
- hater2win, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It's obvious we are all here right now, we should start an IRC and argue... lolz
- JeroenR, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"if it wasn't for the Catholic Church, all the white people here would be speaking Turkish. Be thankful the church united Europe. "
Please explain to my why that would be an inherently bad thing? I wouldn't mind speaking Turkish if I hadn't known better throughout my life. White people aren't inherently superior. - eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3w0mbat: I was a religious studies student, as well as political science... (I wanted to study what appeared to be the largest influnces in the world and in peoples day to day lives)
Anyway. typically if I asked an awkward question, we debated it for days or weeks at times, and researched it like crazy... Often there would be no solid conclusions, but it was never the "God moves in mysterious ways" answer, my professors hated that stuff. It was all approached like any subject, like philsophy or english.
However, I do understand where you're coming from, and I appreciate that you're trying to stay respectful. - eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3diargasm: Thats what I said... the Crusades *weren't* religious, they were political. But religion was used to convince people to go.
- eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3But my refresh button needs love :(
... also, we seem to all be agreeing more or less, just not seeing that we are. :P - diargasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3w0mbat: Have you ever been inside a Church? The church members in the churches I go to are not brainwashed, and they try to answer the questions you have the best they can. As I've said before, it's more of a cultural thing for me.
- eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I expect they'll be as pissed as they are about everything, like Harry Potter and such... Man, the crazies sure know how to give real christians a bad name.
- uglymike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why does this book (and movie) get so much bad publicity from the people of the Catholic faith where I believe the prequel (Angels and Demons) is much more fictitious and outrageous in the way it was written? In my opinion Angels and Demons was much more exciting than this book and raised many more issues for the Catholics to worry about than this book... Such as corruption in the Vatican. Much more controversial than what the holy grail is and its location. I enjoyed all of Dan Browns books, Deception Point the best and Digital Fortress would be the worst of the lot, but still all of his books were very entertaining. Bring on the big screen Code!!
- hater2win, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2true true... man I love this new commenting system, we woulda never been able to do this with non-threaded commenting.
- Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Weird, a lot of people on here seem to assume that anyone who says "this is gonna suck" believe that for religious reasons. I'm an atheist by faith and an agnostic by reason, and have to say that the book was one of the worst written that I have ever read simply in terms of dialogue and character development.
The ideas were fun, if not new (I liked Foucault's Pendulum and the ideas were old then) and it was a page-turner, but oof, the prose.
Hopefully the screenwriters will have turfed out all the worst stuff and done a complete rewrite of the dialogue. If they have then maybe it won't suck. Don't have a deep desire to see it though. - MasterDwarf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just hope that lawsuit goes in favor of Mr Brown, or you may be waiting for the release of that movie just a little bit longer.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2These stories aren't out to attack Christianity. Espousing unpopular truths or simply encouraging reasonable debate doesn't constitute "insulting the foundations of Christianity."
What would be an insult to religion (and common sense) is the blindly follow dogma without questioning it's origin. With respect to the foundation of Christianity, it has a very very convoluted and complicated history so people will always uncover new things and debate. To not debate would be to live in the stone ages.
To keep science out of religion equals keeping basic observation of the natural world out of religion. I'm not sure if that makes any sense. - diargasm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Atheists aren't always so pleasant. Remember Hitler, and Lenin? Did religion cause them to kill so many of their own people? No, so please, don't make it look like all evil comes from religion.
- ItsGus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Yes, true. They're both about a big cover-up in history where the hints where right infront of us the whole time. but im going to venture to say that The Da Vinci code isn't about a burried treasure :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4John Cusack could have played Tom Hanks role easily.
- uicukie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2 i havent read the book, but i think the trailer gives a pretty good idea of what the movie is gonna be: an Umberto Eco-ish semiontic historical thriller, with beautiful Parisian locations, great recognizable cast, and a sense of larger-than-life conspiracy.
Also, doesn't Audrey Tautou looks awfully skinny in this movie? WHatever happened to the plump gamine Amelie? :) - kob2040, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2looks boring. needs more explosions.
- eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3fortezza: So true, I once heard somewhere, "Fanatical/Extremist Muslims are to Islam, as the KKK are to Christianity." I hope thats true, I've had limited exposure to Islam, mostly through my work as a Videographer for some large events. Good folks, I had a blast. I feel bad for all the stereotyping due to the current cultural atmosphere. Seems like Islam is the new Communism to many people.
- w0mbat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@eadmans
True there are schisms, but that's not the same thing. Does the wine literally become blood? That little difference has caused more than just respectful debate.
Have you ever been part of a religious group? Ever asked an awkward question? The usual response seems to be "God moves in mysterious ways", or a pitying look. If you persist in asking "why" you get more trouble.
Religion is dogmatic. It has to be. It relies on "knowing" all the simple answers to everything. People like that certainty, find it comforting.
I'm not intending to start a fight, just a discussion. :) If you disagree with me you will not be cast out or labelled a heretic, nor will any fatwas or similar be issued against you. - juhanfg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would say not only that, but the research on this book i assume it must be as bad as in all the others. I have no idea about how the church works or any idea about religious history, but in Angels and Demons he talks about CERN and he has no idea of what he is talking about. I Digital Fortress i think he talks about Seville, Spain (the city I'm from) and he makes claims about where the buildings are that makes me think he hasn't even bother to look at a map of the city. It makes me think that all the other research is done in the same way.
Even if it is fiction you need to make some proper research of the topic and i believe he has never bother doing so. Now it looks like for the most famous of his books he copied the idea from other people. It doesn't look like he can do much as a writer... the idea is not original and the characters and so one are not very well written.
I don't think I'm going to bother much with this movie... the book was crap and i doubt they can do anything good based on that. - stupidStan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2worst spelling EVAR! :)
- HankReardenJr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"The Crusades? The Crusades were wars against Turkish and Arab Muslim aggression on Christian lands."
Explain to me how the complete annihilation of the Incan race who lived in the mountains of Peru was a war "against Turkish and Arab Muslim aggression on Christian lands". - eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2also, before you decide to rip into me, I'm not arguing from a religous standpoint, just enlightening you with what you might not be aware of.
- KoZo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3WooHoo! Been waiting for this movie! The book was great.. but upon reading this book, you will probable figure out how Angels and Demons might end up..
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