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- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Who cares if there is DRM? Your renting the movie, not buying it. As long as it works when you watch it, why do you care how it works?
- dmron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17vandread, that sound you just heard was a joke flying over your head.
It's spelled "queue" you moron. - murph2481, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Actually this is old news, Netflix has wanted to do this from the beginning but MPAA wouldn't let them because they are worried about declining DVD sales if people can download movies. Got to love MPAA and RIAA don’t you! BASTARDS always holding us back from convenient cool new technology!
- joemawlma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9They already have this for TV shows and internet clips and it's FREE:
http://www.getdemocracy.com/
You can even set it up with RSS feeds, Bittorrent, and Feedburner to auto DL eps of the Daily Show and others. It's quite effective. Leave it running all the time in the background and you don't have to do anything to get entertainment.
Here are some instructions:
http://jnewland.com/articles/2006/02/22/how-to-subscribe-to-tv-shows-using-the-democracy-player-bittorrent-rss - LtCarter47, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@spiralspirit: "Dude its my computer, bittorrent and a TV tuner!"
Maybe it's just me, but I'm not all that excited to hook up a computer to my TV. I like the idea of a dedicated box that does one thing well.
@vandread: "unless I can download them to my computer and distribute them how I see fit then I won't pay for a service"
I highly doubt any company will ever provide a service that will let you download to your computer and distribute them 'how you see fit'. That would be the most suicidal business model conceived. - DjJason, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13I was actually thinking of an idea like this before, but I'm sure everyone thinks of great ideas, but never goes thru with them.
Maybe it will compete with the 9.99 price point iTunes is trying to set for drm-full low quality movies, and allow a subscription fee like rhapsody or Napster's service.
I think it was Edison who said "Ideas are 1 percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration." - tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"Honestly unless I can download them to my computer and distribute them how I see fit then I won't pay for a service. The Pirate Bay is all I need."
Yes that's right, because you have the right to distribute intellectual property that you did not fund, create, and or have a part of? Right, this is exactly why the MPAA and RIAA do what they do, because of people like you. Thus hurting everyone who would simply like to make a backup of the movies and music they bought legally. Becuase you want to do what you see fit. - actorboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"And really, what's with the "I must be able to copy and distribute ***** illegally or I won't use it" attitude?"
It's someone admitting the "Unless the MPAA gets with times and changes their business model" argument is as much hot wind as I thought it was. - MediaShipper, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19***** DRM
- toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6well, maybe they could do it if the telco's actually installed that 45mbps up/down connection they promised
- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I hate when people make the excuse that if Hollywood would make better movies, or record companies would make better music. They wouldn't pirate, or would buy more movies etc.
Crappy movies isn't something new, there are crappy movies, and good movies every year. It's been like that for decades. If you can't find a worthwhile movie to rent, or buy, or download (legally) then you just don't like movies. If you think you're not going to like the movie, don't watch it. I know I wasn't going to enjoy The Garfield movie, but I didn't go and download it from a torrent site just to make sure. I just didn't freaking watch it!
Read reviews, listen to others opinions, I don't have a hard time picking and choosing the movies and music I want. I never rent a movie, and go dammit I wish I hadn't of rented that.
You're excuse is a bunch of bull *****, to try to justify you're pirating. Just say you pirate, you like it, and you don't want to spend a dime. Don't make excuses. - TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6More like 2017. There are still so many people in this country on DIALUP and that use VHS players.
- JakeWalker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is more about NetFlix trying to reduce the costs of a round trip of a movie. Here, bandwidth costs are significantly lower than the cost of sending a DVD to a customer and back. And it's a nice infrastrucure to put in place to protect against other downloadable services and to protect their business.
- buck09, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6What happened to the Netflix /TiVo relationship that was in the news so very long ago? Why re-invent the wheel with another set-top box when you can leverage the hundreds of thousands already out there?
- dmron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6While there are certainly a lot of people with internet in the US, there are still well over a hundred million people that DONT have it, let alone broadband even. If you seriously think that most video stores will have disappeared within the next 1.5 years, you are sadly mistaken :)
- DjJason, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Mirror to Story, link seems to be going really slow
http://www.duggmirror.com/movies/Netflix_to_start_Offering_Movie_Downloads/ - recursive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8In my experience, DRM rarely works like it is supposed to. Even DVDs are unreasonably difficult to play on a computer sometimes. You have to find a decoder somewhere. I know it's possible to get them, but it makes it more difficult than it ought to be. Compare the difficult of playing a dvd properly to the difficulty of playing it after it's ripped. In my experience playing the ripped version (not counting the ripping process itself) is much easier and more reliable than getting the dvd to play. That's why I hate DRM. If you have to reinstall Windows, you could lose all your licenses or something. That wouldn't happen if everything "worked".
- JamesBrown, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@vandread
The word you are thinking of is "queue".
@EnoshKhan
The word you are thinking of is "cue" - Hypersapien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5They weren't the same thing. With Divx, you purchaced a physical disc which you kept permanently. When you played the movie, the player would contact the Divx company and charge your account.
- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Bull *****! By downloading the movie you're helping distribute it among a lot of people. And this excuse that because you weren't going to see it anyway, is ***** bull *****. If you weren't going to see it anyway, then why did you go out of your way to download it? Something must have compelled you to want to watch it. And not just because it was free!
What do you wan't them to do. They market movies to the demographic that it aims for, and how would you know if a movie sucks unless you watch it? And if it sucks to you, why do you even care to watch it! Point is, enough with the *****... if you can't find worthwile movies to watch either buy or rent based on trailer, and movie reviews. Then you're just downloading them because they are free. I know you've never downloaded a movie, watched it, and liked it and then went and bought it! That bull ***** doesn't fly. - elpayo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Don't be surprised if TiVo is manufacturing the box, or supplying the hardware expertise.
- joaob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Again...mainstream one step behind pornographers. They had this up and running well over 2 years ago.
- iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7QUOTE Who cares if there is DRM? Your renting the movie, not buying it. As long as it works when you watch it, why do you care how it works? UNQUOTE
You know, I'd love to agree with you, and really I do, however, when I *BUY* the DVD, they say all I'm doing is leasing the content (e.g. they don't allow me to do with the dvd as I please) ---so why then, why can't I download a copy of the same dvd off of bit-torrent when my dvd gets so scratched I can't watch it again? Why Can't I just go copy my friends (same dvd movie, different physical media).. you see, it seems the rules are only made and applied to THEIR benefit, so I say ***** DRM, with or without rental or buying something. - TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Becuase you're not watching them on yoru PC.
- TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What would be super cool would be if these boxes came with built-in DVD burners so if you liked the movie, you could pay $9.99 for it and have it burned directly to a disc to own forever.
- DjJason, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think the appeal is that everyone wants what they want now. And they prefer not to wait, i agree Netflix is very convinent, but how convienent is it to just have it downloaded automatically, and not have to wait a day or 2 for a new movie to arrive?
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"More like 2017. There are still so many people in this country on DIALUP and that use VHS players."
Like my Humanities Teacher. No computer and doesnt even know DVDs exist. She was shocked when an ad for DVDs showed up on the previews on a VHS movie from 2000. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So there it is. I make, what I consider to be, a fairly clever and relevant joke. There's even a great whoosh on the first reply as vandread tries to edjubicate me.
And I'm modded down to a -2. Thanks a lot! :-) - TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well I'm sure that Netflix would figure out a way around that. Perhaps that as you advance further in the movie, previous data is erased and that the full, burnable movie is only sent to your box after you confirm via the set top that you do in fact want to purchase this movie.
I'd think these things would be VERY hard to Mod Chip, at least on a level where Netflix would suffer any real losses. - peerk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So basically instead of getting DVDs in the mail they are downloaded onto a box?
Sign me up!
I imagine weekly download limits will be implemented. But that isn't much a problem considering currently with netflix it is tough to get more than 3 or 4 movies a week with the postal service wait and throttling. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I humbly appologize for not getting your joke. I have to say its rare for me to get whoosh but I have to blame my impeding hair loss which is creating an airfoil effect on the top of my head.
- streetstealth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2On the subject of the "perspiration" part...
I'm quite curious as to how this would be implemented in parallel with the current Netflix system. Would it just be a limited selection? Would they actually rip/encode the entire catalog?
Would service be available for a surcharge over what subscribers currently pay, or would it be a comprehensive alternative, i.e. "discontinue your rentals by mail, buy the box, and pay the same per month"? - dmron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I dont understand the appeal of this really... Netflix is already so flipping convenient, I mean movies are literally delivered to your house with zero effort on your part for a very affordable price. With a download service, I mean sure I could get movies maybe a day earlier than I would otherwise through the mail, but so what? Are people really in that big a rush to see as many movies as possible on a daily basis? If you have something you want to see so badly, put it at the top of your queue - it will be at your house within a few days :P
- RexKwando, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Don't really see the benefit in this?
It was a good idea about 5-6 years ago. Add DRM and the like to the same quality downloads of 5-6 years ago, and I'm not convinced. - suqur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wonder if this involves TiVo at all. It looks like it doesn't. So does this basically mean the Netflix/TiVo deal is over?
TiVo and Netflix struck a deal in late 2004 to distribute movies over the Internet, very similar to what this article is talking about. Nothing has come of it yet, though. It seems to have hit some legal snags.
But, TiVo already supports downloading certain shows over the 'net. They sent out a free movie a while back, and you can now recieve Rocketboom and a C|Net electronics show directly onto the TiVo.
Link to the Netflix/TiVo story: http://tinyurl.com/5rup5 (edit: link to cnet article wasn't working right) - LtCarter47, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Vandread: "but I don't want to get a movie and not be able to take it to someone else's place, or watch it on a different TV etc."
OK, I can see that. Maybe if they were to offer a "mixed" subscription, that lets you have two DVDs at home and a couple downloads at a time.
edit: crap, replied to the wrong comment.... - AeroSquid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5not as great as getting dvds in the mail that i can make copies of.
- bobbytuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Vongo already has downloading, and it's surprisingly good. I haven't read much about Vongo, but in the two months I've been using it, I've been surprised. A good selection -- including non-blockbuster, hard-to-find films.
It's nice. It's easy. It's fast. And it's cheap. I've already managed to watch several movies (John Cassavetes' 'Husbands,' for example) that aren't available on DVD.
Vongo gets an A from BobbyTuck. - tdogg241, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hence the saying: "Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach phys ed."
- mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4and you get to dress up in a Puffy shirt :P
- mtroute, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah the only difference is that I get the whole movie, in one file at full resolution maybe even HD, without my download requiring 30 zit faced kids or deadbeat pirates downloading the latest VIVID porn movie to provide enough seeds to get the damn download...Oh yeah and I will be able to find all the movies that I want actually named properly. and in some logical directory structure. Man that kind of easy of use and availability would suck especially if I had to pay 58 cents a day to get it...
- valkraider, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Except about 1 in 4 netflix disks are freaking scratched like people used them as buffing pads for a concrete driveway...
I swear, how hard is it to take the movie out of the envelope, put it in the player. Take it out of the player, put it in the envelope... How the hell do you scratch the ***** out of it in that process?
If they charge me the same price, and give me the same number of movies at a time - but without the hassle of scratched DVDs - I am all over that service...
Nothing is more annoying then getting 2/3 into a movie, and then having it not play any further and having to wait three days to finish it... - Anth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The TIVO/Netflix deal is dead, and has been for a while now (Ars reported on it).
I think the main problem was that the movie studios are the same companies/people who own the TV studios. And the idea of the same or a sister company hand TiVo a huge life raft in terms of their future was unacceptable - they want TiVo dead. So much so that they would proably only agree to Netflix's online distribution plans if it DIDNT include a TiVo, with the one benefit of that being high encryption available in hardware in their own proprietary box. - skor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@elpayo: Not likely. Tivo wants to get out of the hardware business and do the software.
- valkraider, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Vandread: You are a crappy IT major if you cannot get the word queue correct... In fact, the very first time I ever heard that word was in a beginning data structures class for my CS degree...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queue - partialinfinity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@jimmygoon: I think you need to take your own advice... :) Re-read JamesBrown's post. He was replying to EnoshKhan, not Nessus.
@kromeassassin: I believe the abbreviation you're looking for is "LOL." :) - Continium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Close, the actual quote by edison is: "Genius is one per cent inspiration and ninety-nine per cent perspiration."
One of my favorite quotes of all time.
Edit: Meant to reply@ DjJason, messed up. - esteban, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Surely it is "spelt" not "spelled". Also, @vandread, keep on believing that language isn't important and you will surely make a great programmer.
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