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- Patogrande, on 11/02/2007, -13/+377It was a kids book when it first came out. The kids who read it then are now ten years older.
- chicoer2001, on 11/02/2007, -58/+389Is it really a kids book when it has 700+ pages. The Di Vinci code has less pages. Plus a lot of adults read Harry Potter.
- macbwizard, on 10/11/2007, -10/+173I'm pretty sure that J.K. doesn't care. After all, the sales records speak for themselves.
- TheSabre, on 10/11/2007, -13/+153Yet "Who Moved My Cheese?", which has about 90 pages and reads like a Dick and Jane book managed to hit high in the bestsellers list. Here's an entire PARAGRAPH from the "adult" book. About a third of page 53...
Sometime later, after not finding cheese for what seemed like a long time, Haw finally came across a huge Cheese Station which looked promising. When he went inside, however, he was most disappointed to discover that the cheese station was empty.
Quality NYT Bestseller literature right there, folks. - wilf_brim, on 10/11/2007, -7/+124Good argument, there. Should animated films be excluded for consideration for major awards, or box office charts because they would be "unfair" to chic flicks?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+119NO SPOILERS!!!
- masamunecyrus, on 10/11/2007, -5/+99I'm tired of this whole "kid vs. adult" thing that's been going on in everything from movies to books to video games. Millions of adults play Mario, watch Ratatouille, or read Harry Potter. Adults don't have to strictly engross themselves in violence and sex in their media; just because something can be enjoyed by kids doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed by adults, as well.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -11/+98Yeah, let's just bash the books that got young people into reading.
- Cojawfee, on 10/11/2007, -6/+91Does this mean the next Clifford the Big Red Dog book won't be on the top ten? Damn it. IT IS LEGITIMATE LITERATURE.
- TSK05, on 10/11/2007, -18/+90Here come the Harry Potter hating groups. Ooo, I want to stand out from the crowd, I read smart books like Crime and Punishment, look at me!
- insomniac8400, on 10/11/2007, -4/+66So did he ever find the cheese?
- DeeX, on 10/11/2007, -16/+74Does the New York best-seller list have that much influence?
Best-seller lists are for cowards. - sl3eper, on 10/10/2007, -2/+55Every book is a childrens book if the child can read.
- ontheplains, on 10/11/2007, -61/+106you could write a 3,500 page book but if it reads like a Harry Potter book then yes, it is a "kids book".
- DarkDragon, on 10/11/2007, -3/+48So, the Top selling list of books can't include the top selling book because its not fair that it sells so much because both children and adults like it?
- Kurisuku, on 10/10/2007, -10/+52I'm not sure if any of you have read the new Harry Potter, but it's written quite intelligently. It's easily as complex as an adult's book now, not to mention as violent -- The sexual innuendo's in the book, and even cursing surprised me quite a bit. This new book is no children's book, nevermind that it actually is a hard read. I know people in law school whom claim their text books aren't as complex. It's true, though, and it's actually more violent/gruesome than the few Palanuik books I read.
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -4/+35On the contrary, I would say that the Harry Potter books have taught plenty of kids to give a damn about reading and enjoy it.
- TheElusiveTool, on 10/11/2007, -4/+34It's hard to care about things when you are rolling in a pile of money.
- pikpikcarrotmon, on 10/11/2007, -5/+33Yeah, it does. It's, like, the New York Times best-seller list. That's like saying Billboard isn't very important to the music industry.
- tominabox1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+28Dugg for counting Country music among the "not real music"
- combatchuck, on 10/10/2007, -6/+33I just finished Deathly Hallows. There is subject matter that includes murder, betrayal, sex, and war. It's also seven hundred pages long. I read the book in about 9 hours, but that doesn't mean much. 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' took me less than 2 days. The first book may have been a light-hearted children's book, but this wasn't.
- celestial, on 10/11/2007, -5/+31new york times killed hermoine
- nairanvac, on 10/10/2007, -4/+28I dig the series because it kind of grew with me. I started reading the books when I was 11, and back then it was fairly tame, but not stupidly so. Each year, as I matured, so did the series.
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23And if three of the series are in the fastest-selling fifteen, why shouldn't three be in there? If the NYT wants to publish a "books we like that are hot right now" list, fine, but don't call it "best-sellers".
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -11/+33I'm sure it's a kid's book when half of Digg is filled with spoilers.
- GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20I read both. Honestly people have serious issues if they can't read a book that is also a favourite among kids without feeling their manhood being challenged. I mean how many diggers would watch Star Wars (which George Lucas himself said is a kids series in response to the honoured 'Die Jar Jar' lobby) then claim HP sucks because kids read it.
- GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -5/+23No doubt HP won't be affected by it. The real damage has been done to the NYT. However you feel the point is to accurately report what's popular, not pick and choose what you like.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19When YOU were a kid was a different time. The truth is most kids nowdays will spend their time either watching TV or more likely on the internet watching videos on youtube or wasting their time on myspace/livejournal. Anything that gets them into books is a good thing.
- Sanooj, on 10/11/2007, -13/+30*fewer* pages.
- kevma, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Pikachu kills voldermort.
- Satanael, on 10/11/2007, -7/+22So many negative comments, god damn. So many people shrug the book off as stupid simply because it's popular or because they tried reading the first book and didn't like how childish it was (It's almost always the first books that older people complain about when trying to get into the series). But as mentioned above, the series really has grown up with its readers. I just finished the final book this morning and I gotta say it's pretty ***** bad ass.
- Buckeye70, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15I guess all those people who are interested in real literature are busy reading the new Danielle Steel. Her new book is number 5 on the NY Times bestseller list. I have not read any of the Harry Potter books, but I will go out on a limb and say it is more sophisticated and clever than Danielle Steel's new book "Bungalow 2". Don't think these list have anything to do with what is real literature.
- andrewthrice, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Exactly. Why would anyone want to have command over the English language and be a good writer?
- OhROFL, on 10/11/2007, -18/+32It's not a kids book. The first three, maybe four books are. Kids books don't usually have characters saying "bitch" "bastard" or even "damn". Or people dying every few chapters. Plus, having read the 7th book, I can assure anyone that "kids" won't be able to follow the intricacies of the story or some of the vocabulary Rowling uses. But... it doesn't change the fact that this is all people want to read, regardless of the list.
- DurtyJ, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18I was surprised until I read "At many bookstores, any title that does so automatically gets placed in a prominent position and receives a hefty discount."
Gee, so the book is guaranteed to be a best-seller, and most major chains would HAVE to sell it at a discount. Thus, they banish it from the NYT Best Sellers, and in turn gain more profit. Wow, so just because they know you're going to buy it, they can charge you more. Sounds a lot like gas companys. - Rentun, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18Wow, great argument. Why put a book at the top of a best seller list just for being the world's best seller that week? That's completely insane!!!
Oh wait... - combatchuck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14In terms of weekly numbers, I'm sure the Bible is actually pretty low.
- Seventus, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16I wouldn't doubt if publishing companies pressured the NYT to make this decision. Just like politicians do... If you want to keep candidates from joining in "open" debates, just threaten to have them arrested if they try to attend.
- insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Wouldn't it just have been better to remove the previous book when the new one comes out?
- ghall, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17Harry Potter is a great book series. NYT can ban it all they want, I don't really care. I like it, and that's good enough for me.
- Ellipsys, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Dug up. I read the Inferno in sixth grade. However, I'm not so pretentious as to think Harry Potter is beneath me today.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+17Jealous he can read?
- TheSabre, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17I won't argue that HP is geared towards young adults, but what about the other books on the NYT list that are? What about the Nicholas Sparks novels? A Walk to Remember and The Notebook aren't exactly books for 30-year-olds. Do they deserve to be eligible for the list?
- Euler2718, on 10/11/2007, -6/+17Many adults only have the mental capacity of children.
- TSK05, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13I am pretty sure in your "mind" every book is for *****
- marcwrz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12I'm not a big fan of the books myself but guess what. The Da Vinci Code was crap too and that's a consistent top-seller. Just because I don't like it, doesn't mean its a best seller. And if HP had the top 3, well guess what, they were the best sellers list. Done and Done. So your post is quite foolish.
- PueSi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Their computers still suck though.
- Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Exactly.
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10It won't influence sales in the slightest, but it's certainly interesting to see the NYT decide that a best-seller list should be determined by any other metric that sales volume.
- combatchuck, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Well, thanks for the broad generalization. I'll be sure to go tell my sister that she doesn't need to bother continuing to teach her 3 year old daughter how to read, since all Americans are too stupid. Also, if you're going to call somebody stupid, do it with proper grammar and punctuation.
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