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- valero68, on 06/16/2009, -2/+27Isn't Michael Moore wealthy?
- harryhood, on 06/17/2009, -9/+17
Moore is a douche.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfi ...
"Moore himself is one of these ultra-wealthy few, with a net worth exceeding $50 million" - ChuckDees, on 06/17/2009, -2/+8Moore doesn't criticize being rich, he criticizes how some became rich.
Would you rightwingers admire a drug dealer?
Oh wait you would Ollie North. - ChuckDees, on 06/17/2009, -0/+4I think Wall Street ruining themselves then getting the government to give them hundreds of billions is jumping the shark.
- StaticThunder, on 06/16/2009, -3/+7"Government greed is currently outstripping anything the free market can offer up"
Pull the other one, its got bells on. - NorthMass, on 06/17/2009, -0/+4Michael Moore, a wealthy man, criticizing people for being wealthy?
lolwut - Blinker1315, on 06/16/2009, -12/+16Didn't Moore jump the minnow several years ago?
- borez, on 06/16/2009, -13/+16Personally I can't wait to see his views on this subject.
- Insightful, on 06/16/2009, -16/+19What? LIke industry titans like Ken Lay, Bernie Madoff, and Allen Stanford represent some kind of outstanding moral responsibility and courage that somehow criticizing them in un-American?
Conservatives will try to see this movie as a eat-the-rich class warfare - I disagree. We do not allow food companies to put in whatever additives they want and sicken its customers with the excuse of "let's let the market will decide." Or making hiring of hitmen legal because that is the capitalist thing to do.
Fact is that greed, like power, will go unchecked when you let it. Having a level playing field with rules and referees makes the game worth playing and watching for everyone - owners, players, spectators, and workers.
/rant - LuxuryisGreat, on 06/16/2009, -4/+7Maybe he will highlight himself first. It should be an interesting take on "his" perspective of the wealthy. Sicko was a home run of a documentary on the differences on Health care systems. I say keep them coming. They are not all good but all of his films have some good information for the masses.
- neio, on 06/17/2009, -2/+5I think that for a change this movie is going to be about himself .... wait
- MajorTomG, on 06/17/2009, -5/+8I was reading the cover of a documentary that was not made by Moore. One review said,
"This is the kind of documentary Michael Moore probably thinks he makes."
I thought that summed up Moore pretty well. - NorthMass, on 06/17/2009, -0/+3I am VERY conservative/libertarian on economics but I am sick of people just labeling people on welfare as lazy. It is just as dumb as the people who generalize all wealthy people as evil.
- NorthMass, on 06/17/2009, -1/+4We haven't had capitalism in a long time. We have had corporatism.
If we had true capitalism the market would be setting interest rates, not a central bank.
If we had true capitalism we wouldn't be in government managed "free trade agreements" that destroys the midde class.
If we had true capitalism we wouldn't be running huge deficits.
If we had true capitalism we wouldn't force people into Social Security ponzi schemes.
If we had true capitalism we wouldn't have so many regulations on healthcare and drugs.
If we had true capitalism we would have drugs be legalized. - bluewithinblue, on 06/17/2009, -2/+5The guy's a prick.
- svensksvamp, on 06/17/2009, -1/+4The thought of Michael Moore examining himself is horrifying.
- inactive, on 06/17/2009, -4/+6No, he's rich. There's a huge difference.
- ChuckDees, on 06/17/2009, -0/+2So he should have went to a Cuban weight loss clinic?
I would have to re watch that movie, i don't think he supports a communist style government owned health care system. - covertbadger, on 06/17/2009, -0/+2"He also went to a private weight loss clinic"
In fairness, unless his obesity was at genuinely life-threatening levels, he *should* go private for this sort of thing. Nationalised health care is supposed to help make sure care is available for everyone regardless of wealth, it's not there to be abused by people who can't stop eating cheeseburgers. - creamy, on 06/17/2009, -3/+5The only thing Moore shows us is, how clever video editing en montaging makes a story tell itself the way you want it to be told.
- NorthMass, on 06/17/2009, -1/+3He also went to a private weight loss clinic, even though he always tells us we need to nationalize health care. I wish people would practice what they preach more often.
- NorthMass, on 06/17/2009, -1/+3What you are referring to isn't capitalism because in those days people could not unionize which is not capitalism but corporatism as well. And while it was horrible what happened to children back then, the alternative was oftentimes making no money and working on the family farm doing very tough work and working all day.
And unregulated capitalism does not lead to oligarchy, but corporatism does. You get a few select companies that own the whole market because rules are written for them to specifically eat up all their competition(look at Wal-Mart for example). - BabyWookie, on 06/17/2009, -2/+4Good. Can't wait to see the movie. The Americans' love affair with the people who ass-rape them is sick. Check this out:
6 Ways the Rich Trick the Poor into Supporting Capitalism http://*****.com/2009/06/14/rich_trick/ - covertbadger, on 06/17/2009, -1/+3You think it's 'principled' to get vanity health care with tax payer money? Weight-loss clinics, cosmetic surgery, and other vanity treatments should *always* be private, regardless of the presence of national health care.
- sanman, on 06/17/2009, -3/+5Michael Moore sends his own kids to a posh private school
What a hypocrite - rancor01, on 06/17/2009, -4/+5Its hard to care about a fat, rich, white man complaining about other fat, rich, white men.
I think I'll skip this one. - smotpoker, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1The poor typically work as hard, if not much harder than the rich. Generally even the "freeloading" poor work 10x harder than many (if not most) rich people.
- asgardshill, on 06/17/2009, -6/+7It's pretty funny how conservadroids constantly kiss the asses of the wealthy (laissez faire, greed is good, lower that poor deprived plutocrat's taxes) while at the same time crying and shaking their fists in protest at Michael Moore becoming exactly what they deify. And color me impressed at the sheer spectacle, as most conservatives never struck me as the type that could walk and chew gum at the same time.
- NorthMass, on 06/17/2009, -1/+2"It's pretty funny how conservadroids constantly kiss the asses of the wealthy (laissez faire, greed is good, lower that poor deprived plutocrat's taxes)"
We haven't had laissez faire in decades, we have had corporatism. Free trade agreements have exported many middle class jobs, and deficit spending has left our currency much weaker than it should be which primarily hurts the poor because they cannot spend their money on commodities to avoid inflation. Laissez faire helps the poor more than any economic system.
"while at the same time crying and shaking their fists in protest at Michael Moore becoming exactly what they deify. And color me impressed at the sheer spectacle, as most conservatives never struck me as the type that could walk and chew gum at the same time."
All valero68 pointed out was that Moore was wealthy himself, so he is basically criticizing others for being rich when he is rich himself, which is hypocritical. - eliasg, on 06/17/2009, -2/+3Didn't Michael Moore eat the shark?
- rpgmakr, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1It depends. If you're talking about his skills to make a lousy and biased documentary then yes, he did that from day one. But regarding his views they are not much different from someone on the left for the most part.
- haydesigner, on 06/17/2009, -1/+2@sanman: "he's a crooked unethical con man"
Other than saying he's rich, got any actual proof?
Thought so. - Rudegar, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1he did it for the lulz
- comradeTJH, on 06/17/2009, -1/+2Well, he wants the sympathy of the poor while enjoying the benefits of the rich.
- NorthMass, on 06/17/2009, -2/+3Why does it always have to be right vs left? Why not right vs wrong? Moore is a hypocrite because he tells people we need to nationalize healthcare then goes to a private weight loss clinic. The senator from Nevada tells Craig to resign for cheating on his wife then he does it himself.
Just bringing up stuff the other side did does not make your side correct. - Obermeister, on 06/17/2009, -1/+2Actually, tax payer money paying for weight loss would be a good idea, because it's a heck of a lot cheaper than tax payer money paying for heart bypass surgery. Even private insurance will cover weight loss plans under some employer provided insurance, for the same reason. Preventative care is the best way to prevent huge costs down the road.
But honestly, I don't understand how going to weight watchers or whatever makes him a hypocrite. I may want universal health care, but that doesn't mean I'm just going to not go to the doctor until we get it. Of course I'm going to use whatever health care I can get, even though I know it's tremendously unjust to people who aren't lucky enough to have an employer provided plan.
Now, if he founded a private health insurance company that went around collecting premiums and then finding ways to deny life-saving treatment when its members get sick, now THAT would make him a hypocrite. Until then, I do not think that word means what you think it means.... - andrewlotta, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1Yeah, but I am going to go out on a limb here and say he doesn't spend his money like a douche bag.
Would you rather see a homeless person directing this documentary? Good for Michael Moore if he's rich. - inactive, on 06/17/2009, -1/+2no all his money is wasted on food
- asgardshill, on 06/17/2009, -1/+2No, I quite like the issue I raised. Conservatives should be throwing rose petals at Fifty Million Dollar Michael's feet everywhere he goes - he's doing good and doing well all at the same time.
- acknotSW, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1I'll be very impressed if he has the balls to start the movie or end it by showing his own house(s), his cars, the exclusive private school his kids go to, etc.. As plasticfrakture said above, there is a difference between rich and wealthy, I wonder if he will give the audience enough credit to recognize it.
- NorthMass, on 06/17/2009, -2/+3ChuckDees - Moore doesn't just advocate single payer health care ala Dennis Kucinich. He literally made a movie glorifying Cuba's communist health care system. He is a hypocrite for going to any hospital or clinic that has anything to do with private ownership.
- NorthMass, on 06/17/2009, -1/+2covertbadger - I don't agree with Moore, I am just saying it would be principled of him to do that because that is the system he said he supports.
- ChuckDees, on 06/17/2009, -1/+2We don't have national health insurance, so him going to a weight lose clinic doesn't make him a hypocrite.
And even if we did have national health insurance like medicare.
The weight loss clinic bill would be paid for by the government.
The clinic would still be privately owned. - inactive, on 06/17/2009, -1/+1And he loves those donuts..
- NorthMass, on 06/17/2009, -2/+2He may not think that system is perfect, I don't know that answer, but he spoke well of the health care system there. So yes, he should have gone to a Cuban health care clinic, or some other government run clinic somewhere if he wanted to remain principled.
While I disagree with Moore on his socialist viewpoints, I am not criticizing him for holding those viewpoints. I am criticizing him for being a hypocrite. I don't agree with people who support the theory of man-made global warming, but I respect this man greatly because he doesn't eat meat in part due to the carbon output that it creates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D59wTSUYRf0 - BabyWookie, on 06/17/2009, -2/+2Whatever. However bad things are right now, they are a lot better than they were before we started regulating capitalism, when illiterate 14 year old kids worked 16 hour shifts in mines and factories with no safety regulations, getting paid pennies for it and dying before they turned 30. I prefer corporatism to an oligarchy, to which unregulated capitalism will always lead
- adventureindia, on 06/17/2009, -1/+1This is funny...i am waiting for the movie to enjoy the every second of it...
- inactive, on 06/17/2009, -4/+4Michael Moore, I can't wait to hear your shill ass version of the truth... /sarcasm
http://www.thecrowhouse.com doesn't want your money, only your time. Start with the video "The Calling" - trevor98, on 06/17/2009, -3/+3Would that be an insider view?
- harryhood, on 06/17/2009, -0/+0He eat donuts like 10 MFer's
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