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- Speciou5, on 10/12/2007, -2/+137If they fought in a room with ladders, coat racks, and a giant plaque with a swordfish Jackie Chan would easily beat Jet Li.
- DiggFight, on 10/12/2007, -3/+58Lines from the leaked script:
Li: What does the scanner say about his power level?
Chan: It's over NINE THOUSAAAAAND!!! - dpcdomino, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31Jet Li pre-Hollywood-wire-work.
Jackie pre-Hollywood-insurance-lawyers - FullMetalMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33digg down
- canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26it's about frickin time. i've been dying for a flick w/ jackie as the hero and jet as the bad guy culminating in a fight scene to end all fight scenes. don't know if they'll go that route, but whatever. my money is on jet in a 2nd round ko!
- Brian48216, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27Jet Li would likely win hands down.
Jackie Chan's martial arts is actually learned from beijing opera, it's a stage performance.
Jet Li has actually been trained to fight from the very beginning.
@bezerk55
There's a difference between people who really study martial arts, and the chest thumping ogres of UFC. It's humility and being humble. Not running around with your shirt off screaming that you'll kick someone's ass.
If you search men's health website, you'll find an interview with Jet Li-
For three-quarters of his life, Li has served as Chief Executive Opener at the whup-ass cannery. It's not that he's weary of it; he's simply moved beyond it. To illustrate, Li cites the three levels of martial arts. Level one: Learn the forms-and repeat them endlessly. "Use your body as a weapon," Li says. "And you need to use the weapons very well, [so you] concentrate on skill." Level two: Physical technique is now innate, so psychological tools come to bear. "I don't need to fight if I can scare you, or use my heart to convince you," says Li. Level three: You gain a mastery of inner peace, so that you no longer need to raise a hand. "We sit here, everybody feels safe, and I'm not scared of aggression. It's close to religion, like Jesus. They beat me up, fine. But slowly they understand, and they drop their weapons. They don't want to fight anymore."
Remember, this is a five time national wushu champion of China. They don't hand those out like the congressional medal of freedom here. - DICKENS, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28It could only be better if they got Tony Jaa
- tmahmood, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Nothing even come close to Jakie Chan's Wall climbing :D
- FullMetalMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -7/+28Jackie Chane can kick Jet Li's ass with nothing more than a towel and a chair!!!
- Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19This one is truly a master of reverse psychology.
We are no match. - lava, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20What the hell are you talking about? Jackie Chan doesn't need special effects. Maybe if they fought in some sort of vortex where Jet Li can manipulate gravity and time.
- Van3ck, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Fearless was supposed to be his final "Martial Arts Fighting" movie...
But I don't think anyone ever really believed he could walk away from what he does best so easily =)
It was probably just a ploy to get more people in the States to see "Fearless". - canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15not if jet was wearing a belt. http://digg.com/videos/people/Jet_Li_Fist_of_Legend_Final_Sequence_Best_Fight_Ever
- DigTheDoug, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12It was supposedly his final "wuxia" movie, like Hero, Once Upon a Time in China, Tai Chi Master, those movies. It was not his final martial arts movie by far, only that style of martial arts movies. He is also doing another action movie with Jason Statham called "Rogue".
- rstarr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I would like to see Jackie as the villian...
Whooooooa... - illflip, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9i think it was "no more chinese epics".
this one is an American movie...i think. - 8bit_Hero, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14I thought Fearless was suppose to be Jet Li's final movie
- pooper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Well, Jackie's pretty old and he's slowed down quite a bit... But I'd take Jackie in his prime over Jet Li in his prime any day... check out this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8NlexV138
that slim Jackie can MOVE... - RoroCo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Royce would win - maybe - if they were in a small octagon with padded mats - maybe. Brazilian Jiu-JitSu is a great martial art, but it is not superior to the rest out there. They just get a ton of notoriety because of UFC and their rules that cater to grapplers. Don't base your idea of an effective martial art on UFC alone - they are severely biased.
- MOJIRA, on 05/17/2008, -1/+7This is like when De Niro and Pacino teamed up for Heat.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Please keep your martial arts and wet dreams to yourself.
- IamTheProfessor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I believe you may be forgetting that Tony Jaa is barely human - and should be in your dream.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IF0l7GSu6A
This guy was just showing off for some media people... wait until 1:40 - you'll crap yourself when you see him kick that high. - BooChihuahua, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Man, this is HOT! I'm drooling right now just thinking about it.
Jackie is my all time favourite. This movie will be a martial arts fan dream come true. - dzlpwr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Check out the directors previous work here http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0591450/
I doubt this film will even be rated pg-13. - mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@brian48216,
Jet Li does too much wire work and nowadays CGI. He's probably still pretty good, but he dilutes the effect with special effects, so it's hard to tell where his talent ends and the special effects begin. - bezerk55, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@brian48216
although this is getting wildly off-topic...
jackie chan probably knows as much if not more actual martial arts (and probably more effective martial arts) than jet li. yes it is true that chan started out as an opera performer, but he has learnt a lot of actual fighting since then. see his wikipedia entry, or my comment further below for the info.
being a wu-shu national champion doesn't actually require that you know how to fight in any competitive manner. you can have never fought or even sparred with someone and win it. nor does it require that you have some amazing strength of character or humility or whatever. it's essentially a gymnastics floor routine with martial arts moves, and judges score you based on the finesse and quality of your movements. it doesn't represent real fighting at all. you can find documentary footage of jet li at the wu-shu nationals if you dig around, or just watch any footage of the wu-shu competitions to see that the winners don't actually fight anyone. it's just a floor routine.
anyway i'm not sure why you're directing your comment towards me. my comment was directed towards someone who thought it would be profound to match an mma fighter against a movie fighter, and my comment was made to highlight the ridiculousnous of such a concept.
and while you paint a very broad, generalising picture of mma fighters as brutish, boastful thugs, you might want to check out people like randy couture, georges st pierre, fedor emelienenko and kazushi sakuraba among many others (huerta vs garcia at the latest ufc 69 is a great example), if you want examples of extraordinary humility and classy conduct. mma fighters in general are pretty good guys, and morons like tank abbot and matt hughes are more often the exception than the rule. - Jinekace, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I am glad Chris Tucker and DMX aren't in the movie...
- b0neman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Even Sean Connery crawled back to good old 007 in Never Say Never Again. Jet and Jackie have been in the game for toooo long and know what we want out of them.
- ARandomGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The "Journey to the West", which is what the Monkey King story is about, is nothing like Dragonball. The Journey to the West is about a Monk who travels west with his three disciples, the Monkey King, a pig-human and a guy who is nearly worthless compared to the other two. It's an old story that is widely known in China. The only reason that they related it to DB is that it's not known by many people, although it's worthless relation, since DB is so different.
- jonocorp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Lets not forget that Dragon Ball wasn't an original concept. It was based on an almost never-ending Chinese story about the Monkey King.
- majin23x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My understanding is that it was supposed to be his last film about martial arts. Not his last film using martial arts.
- PlasmaSnk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Honestly, who cares? It's about Jackie Chan and Jet Li, not the other "rising" stars of martial arts.
- lemz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2tony jaa is cool... but that video is hardly impressive by any measure - just look up extreme kicks on youtube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVgrdbWrkvc&mode=related&search= - bezerk55, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3your point stands that DBZ and journey to the west are nothing alike, although goku is definitely meant to represent the monkey king, especially in the original DB series. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball#Relation_to_Journey_to_the_West
also, though jackie chan started in his youth as a trained acrobatic performer, he has since learnt many martial arts. from wikipedia:
"He knows Kung Fu, and has trained under GrandMaster Leung Ting in Wing Tsun, as well as numerous other masters in Tong Long (Mantis), Bak Mei (White Eyebrow), as well as the traditional northern Shaolin Kung Fu he learned in opera school. Jackie has also learned numerous other styles of martial arts to help his screen fighting, including Hapkido, Boxing, Judo, Taekwondo and Hei Long (Under Master G.J. Torres). Jackie's personal style is said to be a mixture of Boxing, Wing Chun, Hapkido and Judo. He stated that some of his martial arts training has been attributed to Jin Pal Kim, a Korean hapkido stylist."
wu shu, if anything, is the acrobatics... - bezerk55, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2wow, a plain statement of two facts with supporting evidence, with no personal attack on you, and you get awfully riled up and defensive, enough to start slinging the personal insults. i shudder to think how you compose yourself in real life.
in your effort to get offended you obviously missed that i was actually supporting the point you were making that dbz and journey to the west are nothing alike, and that the only thing in common really is the fact that goku represents the monkey king. neither of these things you dispute.
you are free to believe whatever you want would happen in a hypothetical fight. i was simply trying to illuminate a fact that many people don't know. most people only know of jackie chan's beijing opera training and assume that's all there is to his fight knowledge. your statement that jet li is trained in fighting and jackie is trained as an acrobat is therefore missing some important information. if after the addition of this information you still prefer to hold your certain opinion as to who would beat who, that's fine.
i fail to see how one acts socially has any bearing on how effective their fighting skills are. - clclark33, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually it was billed as his "final martial arts epic." But then again, the epic films tend to be too melodramatic for my taste of martial arts asskickery.
- liminaldust, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6SWEET
this can't be true!
The freaking monkey is my favorite book/story of all time, and jet li my favorite artist
it really is a martial arts wet dream... - HawkTail, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5What Jet Li ment was that he was done with "epic" movies, like Fearless, and Once Upon a Time in China: movies that are filmed in China. He wants to be a "real actor" now.
- S4MF1SHER, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If Tarantino directed the movie, there would be an hour and fifteen minutes of dialog and then 30 minutes of actual fighting.
Fist of Legend is the best martial arts movie I have ever seen, Jet Li FTW. - Amplix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hope the FSU in your username isnt Fresno State Uni.
What an embarrasment. - jibone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1New Police Story,.... look it up
- markperia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1when I watched it in theatres I vaguely remember it being subbed not dubbed.
- asylumua, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I cannot picture Chan in a serious role.
- cglive99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2He said it was his final martial arts epic. Not sure how you classify a martial arts epic but there ya go. He's also playing the mummy in Mummy 3.
- Ryokurin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3He said similar in the mid 90s. What he meant was the last that he did of that style of movie. He meant the last time that he wasn't going to do any of the old style Chinese fable type movies like Hero anymore.
- ch33sehead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, but Tarantino doesn't do the martial arts. You still need a good choreographer like Yuen Woo-Ping.
- rstarr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Because of this I know there is a God...
And that god is a giant, scaly, fire-breathing dragon.
Awesome. - mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@bsolidgold,
BJJ is great against a single opponent who has no technique and doesn't know how to counter BJJ and there is a referee to make sure no non-BJJ techniques are used. - TheTjalian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2No, the storyline is essentially retelling the legend that Dragonball was based off of: The Legend of the Monkey King. Now please remember, I say DRAGONBALL, not Z. Don't think this is going to be Live Action Kamehameha Vs. Final Flash. I'm not entirely sure why they made the reference to Dragonball, maybe to get an idea of what the storyline will be like I suppose.
Anyway, I eagerly await this. I suspect this will be kind of like Dragonball, but with a lot more mature feel to it all, and of course Live Action. Nothing against DB, I love the entire series. The first screencap makes me drool in anticipation, it's just a shame the second screencap makes me think of Jackie Chan being in a Shampoo commercial.
Oh well, gives me something to look forward to in 2008 nonetheless! Dugg. Thanks for the link SavedYankees. - iceman0113, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is really-off topic. Another martial artist turned actor to look out for, Cung Le. He's great in the ring and hopefully he's acting skills won't be too bad. Maybe he'll be the next big thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Qk_imp13Y
As for this team-up, I can't wait to see this movie. -
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