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- shagg187, on 08/19/2008, -2/+100Expect the movie to be PG-13 and 90 minutes long if Fox wins the case...
- kevthecatslayer, on 08/19/2008, -0/+84If they do that then no one will be watching the Watchmen
- Bjango, on 08/19/2008, -5/+61Man, Fox is a bitch.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -1/+50Except for Ceiling Cat.
- theandy1, on 08/19/2008, -1/+47That article sugarcoats it. This one worries me and makes me want to stop watching Fox films for awhile.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990722.html?c ...
"Ruling is potentially a huge victory for Fox, which could wind up as a profit participant in the film, and could cost Warners millions considering the film's box office prospects. However, Fox's legal team says it isn't looking for monetary compensation and instead wants to prevent the big-budget film from being released altogether." - solesoul, on 08/19/2008, -3/+48That did look like a weird ass movie. There where no ass close ups at all, and I only saw a couple of chicks. What kind of ass movie is this?
- Gimjee, on 08/19/2008, -2/+41Seems like a little late...
- ThePotatoe, on 08/19/2008, -3/+37if this movie doesnt get released, i think i'm gonna curl up in a little ball and cry
- Trigonometron, on 08/19/2008, -2/+32I should kill Fox and tie its rotting corpse underneath my handmade life raft.
- Frejesal, on 08/19/2008, -1/+32You clearly have training in meme-fu. Completely unexpected, like it should be.
Dugg. - valleyvideo, on 08/19/2008, -1/+29As horrible as that sounds, it's typical Legal-ese. Fox's claim that they're trying to prevent the movie from being released is total BS. They're just trying to make a buck off a property they pissed away over 10 years.
- zoomtechtv, on 08/19/2008, -3/+29Alan Moore should get all the money.
- royalwcheese, on 08/19/2008, -2/+28First Family Guy, Firefly, and now this!
- OstrakonX, on 08/19/2008, -1/+26It's Fox's fault that he distances himself from movies based on works he wrote. After the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie, some douchehat sued the studio for apparently plagiarizing his screenplay "Cast of Characters", claiming that Fox had gotten Alan Moore to write LXG for the purpose of them adapting it to a film, thus masking any infringement on his ***** screenplay.
Apparently the deposition process was so much of a pain for Moore that he just said "***** it" to any movies based on his works. If he has full copyright, he won't let anyone do a movie. If he doesn't (when it's shared with his authors, for example), he won't let his name appear on the credits, or accept any money from it.
So, yeah, Alan Moore isn't getting any money either way, which is a ***** shame considering how much he deserves it. - bulbasuar, on 08/19/2008, -1/+26Firefly was one of the best shows ever created.
Fox is a dream killer. - DeathfireD, on 08/19/2008, -2/+25If Fox happens to win the fight, how much you wanna bet someone on the inside of Warner Brothers will "accidentally" leak the movie to bittorrent trackers within the year?
- beezneez, on 08/19/2008, -1/+21
From another article:
Fox argues it acquired motion picture rights to the "Watchmen" graphic novel in the last 1980s, and that even though it relinquished certain rights to the material in 1991 it held onto the right to distribute the first movie.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080819/film_nm/watchm ... - Inflammo, on 08/19/2008, -0/+20He doesn't want it though
- SaladCactusKing, on 08/19/2008, -6/+23I'm just excited for the gay porn spinoff, MenWatch.
- Frejesal, on 08/19/2008, -2/+21"God help us all..."
- PDAIsAOk, on 08/19/2008, -2/+16Dont forget Arrested Development
- P1um, on 08/19/2008, -1/+15That is pretty underhanded the way Fox waited so long to go to court with it, but it's kinda Warner Bros fault. They should've made sure they had full rights first.
- ithackston, on 08/19/2008, -3/+17I felt the same way. The trailer is just plain confusing. Honestly, I would have waited for DVD. But then I picked up the book to try and make sense of the what I just watched. So far, it kicks ass. Can't wait to see this thing.
Go check out the novel. If you are too cheap to put down the cash or too lazy to get it from the library, its on the pirate bay. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 08/19/2008, -4/+18Introducing the legal form of theft.
You pay for it, you create it, you advertise it. They come and take all your money. - OpaqueMurdock, on 08/19/2008, -1/+15Spend the time to discover what this is all about Starts, you won't regret it. You may not realize it, but much of what you enjoy in modern media owes a little debt to Alan Moore's Watchmen, It (along with a few other works) made people take "graphic novels" and the people that create them a lot more seriously and greatly helped in the idea that the people that read them were capable of dealing with more serious subject matter... and when he and other talented people started writing stories for "comic book characters" that had depth and emotion thats about the time film makers started getting interested . good thing they have had some time to hone the craft of translating graphic novels to film before tackling the most celebrated one of all time. (TDKR fans may be about to leap at their keyboards... don't worry I am down with FM too! :)
It is not an exaggeration to say Watchmen (along with a few others) changed the many people thought of "comics" around that time. Rare in its day, there are many books like it now. If you asked the younger writers/artists/creators, I would guess most of them would point to Allan More as one of their influences. Its not a Super Hero story... its a story of people who happen to be super heros.
And yes, its weird, but in a good way... OK, I guess that depends on the person... hell just go read it. : ) - Cerebron, on 08/19/2008, -1/+14I would point out that Fox should have said something when they first heard about the movie, they obviously just want a piece of pie without doing any work.
- OpaqueMurdock, on 08/19/2008, -0/+12Thanks OstrakonX, I didn't realize that was the deal. Holy crap! I hope most people are paying for the book at least. I see LOTs of people telling others to go download it... I mostly have been quiet about this since I figured he would get some cut of the film and that book sales would still be OK. I would rather have people exposed to it than not if the handful of dollars is really an issue...
But damn that would suck if his cut on publishing was small and a large % of new readers pirated it and he also got noting from the movie...
Oh well, he gets to be satisfied that at least he is a creative person worthy of his spot on the planet. Maybe the culture leachers should think about what creative contributions they have been "uploading" to our society recently.
I don't know the economics of his publishing, but I assume he WILL get paid if you buy a copy of Watchmen. Even if you don't normally fork out the dough (I'm talking about people that can afford to and choose not to pay) I think its worth considering in this case people. - blacklilyninja, on 08/19/2008, -3/+14***** the movie studios/media giant *****.
fox waited for warner to practically finish the movie to do this. - Murrabbit, on 08/19/2008, -1/+12Why the holy hell are they only bringing suit now? I doubt it was some big ***** secret that this film was being made - somewhere in the entertainment industry SOMEONE must have been keeping an eye on the ***** director of 300 to see what he's up to.
In law, I think this is what we call acting in "bad faith", in other words, using the legal system in such a way as to totally screw someone over when a much more reasonable action could have been taken. If waiting for someone else to finish filming an entire movie and THEN saying "Oh hey we have the right to distribute it so YOINK!" when they could very well have worked it out before production started sure as hell is a bad-faith move. - swisscheese97, on 08/19/2008, -5/+15As reported by Fox News:
"The evil corporation WARner Brothers and its affiliate insurgents took food out of the mouths of Fox employee children when it went ahead, using terrorist-like tactics, and produced the movie Watchmen, which Fox has rights to according to the 'because we said so' clause included in Fox's contract with the American media. Fox CEO Rupert Murdoch had this to say about the incident: 'I pleaded with Warner Brothers to please let us have the movie money. If they didn't, how could I possibly tell my kids we had to downgrade our personal jet from a Gulf-Stream 4 to a Gulf-Stream 3?' Fox executives then were able to pull some strings and retaliate against the militant Islamic radical company (WB), with a triumphant series of enhanced interrogation tactics with a minimal casualty rate of 45%. The WB had nothing to say about the incident, and calls made to other evil liberal entities were not immediately returned. All in all it was a net gain for freedom, and by extension... AMERICA!!! (***** yeah!)" - inactive, on 08/19/2008, -0/+10Well for people interested in the movie you can only hope.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -3/+13samus?
- coexed, on 08/19/2008, -1/+10I read The Watchmen just last summer for the first time. To me it was one of the most influential books I have ever read. The Stranger by Albert Camus and The Watchmen are the two works that finally made me decide to switch my Major from Sociology and pursue Creative Writing. It made the graphic novel median seem valid in my eyes.
I will go see this movie regardless of what happens with distribution rights. As soon as I finished the graphic novel the first thing I searched for was The Watchmen Movie. A few months later was when the announcement came out that it was to be made, and I was and still am excited for it.
However, I will be extremely disappointed if it doesn't get released because of this lawsuit. I know of plenty of people that have just started reading some of Frank Milers Batman graphic novels because of The Dark Knight movie, and it would be great to see a resurgence of The Watchmen. - inactive, on 08/19/2008, -0/+9*"So I really couldN'T care less about Watchmen."- fixed.
Personally, I'm outside the age demographic (by a *few* years). I first read the novel around 18 years ago now, and I still remember the way it made me feel. I had personally never read anything like it.
I bought it 4 years ago, and found it still had the ability to excite and amaze me, all these years later.
To give an indication, Watchmen is to comics what Star Wars is to sci-fi film - what LoTR is to fantasy novels, what Jessica Alba is to womanhood.
and no, I never played the Death Race game (unless you mean 3D Death Race on the Speccy), but I did watch the film. Carradine was cool back then, Stallone, not so much... - conkers209, on 08/19/2008, -0/+9Come on now people, don't speculate on things. Besides, usually big movie studios makes sure they have the rights before they start making anything, if it's something new, secure the license. If Fox has the the rights to Watchmen, and WB didn't know that, then WB just got screwed big time because it now looks like Fox will slap their name on the movie and call it a day. Man, legal stuff is a bitch.
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/19/2008, -0/+9This is studio executive payback for WB stealing Bryan Singer (to do SUPERMAN RETURNS) away from FOX (where there wanted him to do X-MEN 3). So, yeah, it's nasty.
But Fox is going for an injunction just to make the threat imminent in court. Otherwise, WB will just drag it out in court FOREVER, as Fox would do if the roles were reversed. - carpeclunes, on 08/19/2008, -1/+10I read the book two years ago and now I spend over a hundred-fifty dollars a year on various comics. So I guess it did have an impact on me.
As far as Death Race goes, it has Jason Statham driving a car. We have not seen that before. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 08/19/2008, -1/+9Want to watch more Firefly...
- sparkleton, on 08/19/2008, -3/+10"The world will look up and shout 'Save our movie!' and I'll whisper, 'No.'" -FOX
- bixby1, on 08/19/2008, -2/+9Clash of Nations!
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -1/+8Fox was a ***** bitch long time before this *****
- ATLien74, on 08/19/2008, -1/+8Actually, it's pretty smart to wait until the movie is made and set to come out before stepping in and asking for your cut.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -1/+7As the movie is already done I would imagine WB will fight this to the death and release it as scheduled.
Seems like if Fox wanted to do this they maybe should have tried before they started filming the damn thing. - inactive, on 08/19/2008, -2/+8I prefer Douchebag, Assfags, or Dickholes. Or all 3. Or all 3 and bitch.
- pak314, on 08/19/2008, -1/+7Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
- Tonamel, on 08/19/2008, -0/+6It's not all hype. Consider that Watchmen is the only graphic novel to make Time Magazine's list of the Top 100 English Novels of the 20th Century.
It's a seriously influential work, and one of the first that proved that comic books can be for more than just pulp stories. - Nateon, on 08/19/2008, -4/+10***** FOX. Heads are going to roll if my favorite graphic novel gets ***** by Fox! (Well, maybe not but I can always be a tough guy on the internet).
- ibeetle, on 08/19/2008, -0/+5This is not the first time Fox and Wanners has squared off. The two are still fighting over Bat-man. Which is why the original 1960's television program with Adam West is not out on DVD.
- gambyt13, on 08/19/2008, -0/+5No. The bolded text is excerpted from Variety, the industry pub. If you ever read Variety you would know that they abbreviate and truncate to facilitate speedy reading. Submitter should have posted a link to the oversized excerpt, this practically ranks as plagiarism.
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