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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+891. Remove distribution, manufacturing and shelving costs.
2. Charge twice as much.
3. PROFIT!! - zizzybaloobah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+86And when it doesn't work, they'll say that consumers aren't interested in downloading movies.
- Swift2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+84Gee, $30 for the privilege of an inferior visual experience! Just what the movie fans of the world were looking for!
Is it possible to be any more clueless? I was a fan of the Clinton administration, generally, but Dan Glickman is as dumb as a post. - Petronski, on 10/12/2007, -10/+76Glickman is another Clinton Admin idiot.
What the hell, why not make it 160x120 B&W monaural and charge FIFTY bucks? It couldn't be any more stupid than the plan announced today.
Maybe portray the films in ASCII with subtitles only and charge $75... - XTrek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+53Where do I buy the drugs these guys are on?
- sert, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44or just get netflix for 20 bucks a month, watch all you want, and rip whatever you like for future viewing.
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+37You can't buy stupidity like that...you have to be born with it.
- drbroccoli, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38No, they'll just say it's piracy.
- phpirate, on 10/12/2007, -3/+36Actually its the other way around. When it doesn't work, they'll say all we like doing is downloading movies. No kidding, MPAA. You have competition, try to compete against it instead of destroying yourself.
- mercatfat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33Let it be noted- $30 is the MSRP for most DVDs. It just isn't what it's ever sold for, unless you shop at Suncoast for some reason.
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36"In case you cared, the local Netflix hub is less than 9 miles from my home.""
HAHA ...and my Azureus icon is about 16 inches from my clicking finger....and it's always on time.
And apparently, it's encrypted against selective protocol throttling by the ISPs. - briarpatch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29Clue for the MPAA: inessential item+flexible demand=price-sensitive buyers. Now, go see Steve Jobs and if you're really nice to him, he'll explain why iTunes is a success. But I do hope he charges a healthy fee for advising idiots.
- lostboytexas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26this is easily the dumbest ***** thing i've ever seen in my life and no wonder the film companies are losing money... with ideas like this they deserve to ***** vanish!
"...Universal is rushing to make more than 100 movie titles available online to provide a legitimate alternative to Internet piracy"
At $30 a pop you just made piracy a whole lot more desirable you corporate america jerkwads! - timmins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Oh yeah, that works... for about a week until you're blatantly throttled.
And I'm not buying into the hype... I get a notice from Netflix saying "For Wednesday: " and I'll be lucky to get it Friday or Saturday. Then I send it back and it takes 3+ days. In case you cared, the local Netflix hub is less than 9 miles from my home.
I know what you mean by your post, but those glory days are long over. They'll throttle you at the first clue of you flipping them too quickly. - Kaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Words alone cannot describe how retarded they are.
- CatFood, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21I usually just go to Blockbuster, rent something, then burn it if I like it. That's much easier for me since I only watch 2-3 movies a month and Blockbuster is 2 minutes away. I feel less guilty about this then downloading an iso from bittorent. It's not more legal, just not as illegal. Blockbuster gets their fees, MPAA gets their royalties, and I have a DVD collecting duct on my shelf, which I probably will never watch again.
- Pogue_Mahone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21This is a service that's designed to fail. That way, the movie companies can say, "Hey - we tried that whole internet distribution thing and it failed. Obviously only movie pirates want to use the internet. So lets just keep suing everyone on the internet."
- NJank, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12"Maybe portray the films in ASCII with subtitles only"
Now, real good animated ASCII art I'd pay for. - Oline61, on 10/12/2007, -11/+22I would rather pay $50 for a DRM free movie than $10 for a DRMed movie.
However that is quite irrelevant. If those are my only 2 options then I'm going with BitTorrent :). - copiloto, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12This is just ridiculous. I guess it is going to take awhile until the studios realize that there is a huge gap between prices and quality of the products (just as it is with the TV shows at iTunes).
- dylanrjones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Are you sure? It often seems like the richer people get, the stupider they become. There MUST be a correlation....
- Jimzip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Yeah that's true.
But it's just a stupid business model. We all know they aren't doing it to make it 'easier for consumers', they're doing it so that average_joe_computer_user out there that has no idea what DRM is will think it's a better alternative to buying DVD's and waste a whole lot of money on it.. I'm really surprised that they've done this, it shows that they really are so greedy that they've lost perspective on what their consumers really want.
Jimzip :D - Jadinlee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Is the industry really this stupid? Services like this only PROMOTE piracy. The people who would use a service like this are the same people who have the tech-savy to pirate the movies. Why would anyone in their right mind pay this amount? I think really think we're entering a period where the movie and music industries are losing control. Technology is making consumers extremely powerful because the protections the industry is trying to implement are just no match for what consumers are able to counter with. In the end, the industry will realize that it either needs to conform to the demands and preferences of consumers or be put out of business. Customer loyalty and satisfaction will be the only marketing tool worth a damn in an environment where the customers can bypass any and all obstacles.
This one gets a digg simply for disgusting me. - williamhelmick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9-digg, because i'm never too lazy or impatient to overpay by $30 for a MOVIE.
- mianos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Dugg for the idiocy factor. This really does belong on the dig front page.
- kenfagerdotcom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9 "If somebody wants to get their content online and create a digital library, this gives them the opportunity to do that. This is another way for consumers to access movies."
Or buy the DVD the day it comes out, and copy it ASAP. Oh silly MPAA. Will you ever learn?
Time it takes to drive to DVDatorium: 5 minutes
Time it takes to find and purchase DVD: 5 minutes
Time it takes to return and open DVD: 5 minutes
Time it takes to extract DVD with MacTheRipper: 30-40 minutes.
I wonder how long it takes to download the $30 online version... hmmm... - compu73rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Yeah but most people find a dollar a song reasonable.
- ebunton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Has anyone noticed their flawed rationale for their higher price???
What $30 gets you:
1. convenience of downloading
2. flexibility in moving the file between computers
3. ability to make a backup copy for Windows PCs.
Sure! You could measure convenience that way (ie against buying a DVD). They are saying that because of these conveniences, it's better than buying a DVD, and hence should be more expensive.
BUT, they forget to consider the conveniences of pirating it using p2p
What FREE gets you:
1. convenience of downloading
2. flexibility in moving the file between computers
3. ability to make a backup copy for ANY PC
4. Zero DRM
They're so blind. I'm surprised lol.
iTunes got the pricing right: For many people, 99 cents is not that much to pay for music - at that price point the pros of buying legitimately outweighs the pros of pirating.
Movie download services need to strike the right price point too to be successful (certainly NOT more than you would pay for a DVD) - queezenorph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I think it's funny that we all just tried to ream Apple for charging $9.99 for a movie no more than two weeks ago.
Clearly, someone higher up was paying attention to that whole debacle...
Lostboytexas: You hit the nail on the head. - cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19OMGZ - for the polytheists.
- cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"future viewing" - Bingo! and at about $2.50 each.
- Godric, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7This is a new service so they are going to inevitably fiddle with the pricing until they hit the market's sweetspot. As noted, the prices are not that far from what you would pay for a new release DVD. Even accounting for discounts at stores like Amazon, where new DVDs seem to cost between 15-20 dollars.
Also, it is just plain business sense that if you know you're going to have to fiddle with prices after entering a new market, it is easier to adjust down than it is to adjust up. - cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6And its not compatible with Mac or iPod users. Fools.
- SoulMaster2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Downloading movie legally and only being able to watch it on a PC:
$30
Downloading movie illegaly and being able to watch it on anything you want:
Free
Are these companies really thinking they can discourage piracy with this? Sad. - Stopher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6$1.99 is spare change. $30 is a purchase. That's the difference.
- deb6404, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Now Apple's $9.99 movie price on iTunes doesn't sound HALF as bad... -__-
- MarvinMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Who the hell thought this would work? Seriously, $30 to download a movie with DRM? No thanks, I've got something called BitTorrent to do that. It also happens to be free and isn't full of scary MPAA paranoia software.
- dvgraphics, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I hate the idea of DRM, but quite frankly the iTunes DRM hasn't stopped me from doing anything. I still put music on my iPod (My MP3 player of choice even before the iTunes store), I still burn them on CDs, I still trade those CDs with friends. I can even listen to my music on any of my computers. The only thing I can't do it send it online- which seems fair enough...Artists typically don't like that, and I'll respect that. I'll let you know when the day comes that the iTunes DRM starts to bother me. It'll probably be a long while down the road.
The iTunes protection does an admiral job of allowing the legal and disallowing the illegal. - DaWolfman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Wait until Walmart opens?"
Wal-Mart is open 24/7. Problem solved. - VSKBadCRC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Could they have totally missed the point anymore than doing this? How many times can people ask for a universal format and not get the point across. Stop the only-plays-on-computer, only-plays-on-DVD-players, Only-plays-on-PSP options. Give us a real universal medium and the privledge of copying that to the device of our choice. Maybe then it'd be worth the extra cost, otherwise they're just wasting their time and our money.
- Godric, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9"Ramo said download-to-own movies would sell for $20 to $30 — up to double the $15 that discount retailers such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc. charge for DVDs, with downloads of classic titles for $10 to $17."
"Prices will range from $19.95 for new DVD releases to $9.95 for classic films" - ZachPruckowski, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Concur. Buy the DVD and rip it. If you don't share it, the odds of you getting DMCA busted are about zero. It's half the price, and gives you all (or most) of the rights you're entitled to.
- chad78, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6YAY! I can finall download crappy copies of movies off the Internet - and only for $30!
Oh, wait - I can BitTorrent for free - and half the time they're HDTV and there's no DRM. - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's been said but the iTunes DRM (called Fairplay) is understandable, it limits mass distrobution while letting consumers actually enjoy the music on different devices (granted limiting to the iPod isn't cool).
- williamhelmick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i guess they've never heard of a home theater PC, or a TV-out jack on a video card, for that matter...idiots.
not that it matters, since nobody's going to buy the movies in this format anyway. - cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The price is ridiculous.
- streetstealth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Why are they so freakin' worried about people copying these files?
Whatever title it is, IT'S ALREADY OUT ON BITTORRENT. Trying to lock up the file for the few who actually go to the trouble of downloading it legally is just sticking your finger in the dam while water rushes over the top. - onehrcleaner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What is the best way to combat the drastic drop in people going out to the movies? Make it twice as expensive to stay at home and watch the same movie.
- piper999, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5And I'm not buying into the hype... I get a notice from Netflix saying "For Wednesday: " and I'll be lucky to get it Friday or Saturday. Then I send it back and it takes 3+ days. In case you cared, the local Netflix hub is less than 9 miles from my home.
Have you tried driving round there and delivering the DVDs by hand? - signal15, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I have no idea what they have been smoking, but it's obvious they smoked it all.
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