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- macslut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Remember when NeXT took over Apple? Yes, I said that correctly. Apple may have purchased NeXT, but Jobs took over Apple along with his key people from NeXT. It was like as if Apple paid Jobs/NeXT to be purchased.
I think the same thing would happen with Pixar/Disney.
After the merger, Jobs would be the top boss at Disney and those at Pixar would be given power positions.
It makes sense because it allows Pixar to do more and have more creative power. The road ahead now is one where they can't distribute themselves and if they partner with another, they'll find that at some level they'll always have to compromise.
However if they take over Disney, they'll ultimately be in full control of *all* aspects of their productions from creation, distribution, marketing and everything right down to the character costumes on Disney's Main Street.
Jobs has never micromanaged Pixar. He's had a much different role and personality as CEO of that company than he has at Apple. I think the same would happen at Disney. He'd be involved in things that are core to his passion and give full autonomy to the crap he could care less about (like hotels and cruise lines).
This would still allow him to be Chairman at Disney *and* CEO of Apple. As Apple moves further from being just a computer systems company to being a media systems, content and services company, this will ultimately benefit Apple as the two corporations would be very closely tied if not ultimately merged. - Skrolnik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1gawdisback, you're sadly mistaken. Pixar is an independent company. Just because they've had a partnership deal with Disney in the past, doesn't make them the same company.
- seanalltogether, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Theres a reason a lot of Disneys best animators left to go work for other places like Pixar and Dreamworks. Buying back Pixar wont change the way those artists think about Disney. Without those people Disney will be no better off then they are right now, and the rest of us will be left with commodity animation.
- ntufar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It is Reuters citing WSJ this time.
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1After this you will soon see every Pixar movie go straight to video followed by a minimum of three to four sequels.
- YuleLogger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you can't beat 'em, Buy 'em!
- AlmostEvil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hasn't this rumour been going on since the dawn of time?
- CrimsonBlur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Doofy
"Disney won't mess with it." Are you serious? The first thing Disney will do is get Pixar crackin' on multiple projects at once. Their first order of business would be to make Toy Story 3 for direct-to-DVD release which means most of the original cast would say "bye-bye". They'd then proceed to force them to make a DVD sequel of every movie Pixar has made to date. That's exactly what Disney has done with every single remotely popular kids/family movie they could make into a franchise since Walt died. Pixar made Toy Story 2 because they came up with a really, really good story to tell. It's obvious they didn't do it just to make more money, because they haven't made a sequel before or since (so far). Try saying that about Disney, and try to convince yourself that when Pixar IS Disney, that will continue. - endernet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Noooooooooooooooo!
- Doofy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pixar movies = blockbusters
Disney movies = not so much.
The drumbeat to make Jobs the CEO of Disney would be deafening.
Shareholders and the media would be all over it. - Arthere, on 02/24/2009, -0/+1Doesn't Diseny own Pixar? http://www.creditcardassociate.com/disney.html
- BattleFarm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hmm, could steve jobs be the next CEO of Disney? I think I may buy some stock and see what happens.
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"uhhhhhhhh.. "Disney to buy Pixar"???????????? Disney IS Pixar."
did you fall of your bed this morning? - Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Maybe this will be the first stwep in stopping these sequel-to-video distasters and the beginning of newer, better animated films. Home on the Range? Compared to Beuty and the BEast, Lion King and Aladdin?? I don't think so...
- umrgregg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Steve Jobs would be largest individual shareholder in Disney."
Damn. Poor guy. - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Hmm, could steve jobs be the next CEO of Disney? I think I may buy some stock and see what happens."
Man that would be interesting....
I would love to see that happen! - oepapel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"If you can't beat 'em, Buy 'em!"
It's more like, "if you partner togethr on several successful projects where both sides make money, Buy 'Em!" - DrDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/19/news/companies/disney_pixar.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes
- tophfisher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0More likley it is a movie distribution deal. Nothning else.
- n0s0ap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Pixar would only do this if 1)Pixar could transform Disney and push it back on track, Pixar is what Disney was at the beginning. and 2) Disney has a massive upper hand on distribution plus all the merch and marketing support. Alone Pixar would have to find their own way of reaching the masses.
- Jammerdelray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0just makes sense
- CrimsonBlur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Unless Jobs gets some kind of completely and utterly ludicrous deal out of Disney, I don't think there is any way he would sell Pixar. I am sure his success with Pixar has given him a lot of leverage in dealing with media companies for iTunes and now the video store. I don't see him giving up control of Pixar to Disney just to get a bunch of Disney stock, unless he really does want a controlling share in Disney. Even though that may give him the leverage to really have the Mac take off in the living room I just don't see any of this actually happening. I think Jobs would turn Pixar into its OWN production and distribution company before he sold the whole shebang to Disney.
- Doofy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Pixar is based in Northern California (far from Disney) and isn't broken. Disney won't mess with it. They just want to keep that steady supply of hit animated films coming. The thought of losing Pixar to another studio terrifies Disney.
- actoraine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No!!!! Disney bureaucracy just produces junk. Hardly think that the Pixar people would want to stick with Disney going forward if that really happens.
- kali25, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Disney is really sucking now. Walt would roll over in his grave if he saw what has become of his company. I hope Pixar stays the way it is. It made a reputation and now has the means to stand on its own. I have *loved* every Pixar movie and can't wait for "Cars".
- djpstyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Talk of Jobs becoming CEO is really really premature. But MAN would make a great fit! Apple would go straight to hell should such a thing ever come to be. Fortunately the whole idea sounds pretty far-fetched.
- carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0not likely, pixar broke off with disney a few years back because disney wanted them to start pumping them for more sequels to toy story, and pixar didn't want to be regarded as only doing kiddie movies. methinks pixar has a bad taste in their mouth as a result, and would be unlikly to sell out to disney. besides, disney has been teaming with dreamworks on all thier recent craptacular cg movies
i don't like disney anymore, they shut down their 2d animation shops, pumped out as many sequels to existing movies as they could before doing so, and are in general not the same company they were when they made things like lion king and jungle book. blegh - MikeCampo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah its been around this site before.
- Trunks4191, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0 Pixar was leaving Disney becasue Disney wasn't giving Pixar more profit sharing on movies.
Pixar put Diseny back on the Map. That company is an innovator of in the movie industry
Don't hate Jobs, hate the game - SlappyMc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Pixar is still in contract with Disney..
They were in a contract for 7 or 8 movies I believe. Cars being the second last one they are obligated to make under the Disney name. Disney however keeps all the rights to all Properties Pixar created. So expect to see lame Incredibles sequels.
I Would LOVE to see pixar break off from Disney, so they could venture into more adult oriented movies. Incredibles was truly incredible, but the visuals were no doubt aimed at a younger audience. I want to eventually see some truly darkly themed stuff come out of pixar. - Nobi-Wan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Go to Disneyland and see how much that company is relying on Pixar's success. Do you see any Pocahontas or Home on the Range characters prancing around? No. You see Woody, Buzz, Nemo, and The Incredibles EVERYWHERE. The only place you see has-been Disney characters are on merch in the stores from Disney movies that were actually *gasp* good.
Michael Eisner really f***ed up Disney the way Lucas ruined Star Wars, in my opinion. - mantric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Pixar won't fix Disney. Disney will break Pixar. I think this is a bad move.
I can't think of two creative companies with more different cultures. Disney would swallow Pixar, absorb the established properties, and pass the people and community that have so successfully developed them right into the crapper.
I mean, for crying out loud, look at the Disney-fication of Narnia. Blech. - Oogler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0DISNEY/PIXAR & MR. JOBSrnrnI would be surprised if Disney bought Pixar right out. It'd be too expensive though I wouldn't discount a merger. Further, the person, (carpespasm?), that suggested above that Disney and Dreamworks have been working together is, uh, so *absolutely wrong*. Dreamworks Animation = Jeffery Katzenberg. Jeffery Katzenberg and Disney are not sandbox buddies in this or any other alternate universe.
As to Steve Jobs becoming Disney's CEO, hrmm, doubt that too. Disney's new CEO, Bob Iger, would likely not give up the helm so quickly into his tenure. (He's only been at it since October 2005) What might happen is Steve Jobs joining the Disney board of directors, possibly as its chairman. Currently retired Senetor George Mitchell is holding the post but only until a new one can be found. This is a more likely scenario as the board meets only a few times a year and wouldn't tax Mr. Jobs' 'other' interests.rnrnAs to the drek that Disney has been producing lately I would agree there's work to be done there but people need to remember a few things. Not every film, regardless of the studio, is a hit. Sequels are not a format unique to Disney, although it is a cautionary tale when you blatantly trash the memory and legacy of a creative genius. Be that as it may, Disney is the largest and most profitable movie studio on the planet. They've lost their way a few times but they do find their way back. One only needs to look into the most successful era's of the Company's history to see when it was producing its best content and driving its best profits. That is ... when a true visionary is supported by a true financial wizard. (Walt & Roy, Eisner & Wells). It's only when one or the other died or left that the Company lost its way. With Iger as CEO and Jobs as Chairman... Disney would be positioned very well to continue its winning legacy.rnrnA Pixar/Disney, and by osmosis Apple, hook-in would be a signficant force in the consumer products and entertainment industry. Bet on it.rnrnMy two cents. - AndrewMayne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In the original WSJ article they point out that John Lasseter (director of Toy Story, the guy that runs Pixar day-to-day) would likely head up Disney's animation division. This would be a very good thing.
Also, remember back to 1997 when another company called Apple acquired a certain Steven Jobs company called NeXT. First he was just a board member and some of his NeXT employees were given high profile positions. A few short years later, the NeXT people were running Apple with Jobs (back) at the head of Apple.
If history is any lesson, look at this as Pixar taking over Disney from within. - compu73rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can't wait until Disney buys Microsoft. Oh God, DIsney will be running the world.
- cabazorro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just saw James P. "Sulley" Sullivan and Mike Wazowski resumes at Monster.com
- skinner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this is going to be interesting, this is me just looking to the future, what would happen if jobs ever became disney ceo, shall we look forward to apple world or jobs world? lol
- orangetiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The day that happens, I will cry. Not like disney can pull out anything decent nowadays.
But if disney buys pixar, and steve jobs has the most shares of Disney, wouldn't that mean Pixar would own disney? - JayRod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If Disney buys Pixar wouldn't that make Steve Jobs a rich man. Afterall he only makes $1 a year at Apple.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Disney are a huge commercial lump who stopped making good cartoons very long ago. Disney and simmilar crap probably help with the whole 'cartoons are for kids' mentality and don't seem to produce anything origional any more.
Are they really going to be more popular and continue to rise (hence making shares worth something to hold)? - disneymama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If this happens, it's likely that Jobs will become the Chairman of the Board at Disney, not CEO. I think this would be OK because nobody will dispute that Jobs has a great business sense. His artistic sense is another thing, though.
This would be a good thing for Disney, but they MUST leave creative people at Pixar alone and not make them create a bunch of direct-to-DVD crap like what is coming out of Disney right now. Now, if John Lasseter stays on and takes over Disney's animation unit, that would be cool. - plex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If Disney merges/buys out Pixar...
Buy as much stock as you possibly can in Apple and the new venture Disney/Pixar. - Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This isn't just about Pixar and Disney. Do you guys realize what Disney owns?? ABC, ESPN, Disney Channel, A&E, History Channel, Many many many radio stations and several TV stations. Miramax and Touchstone... And that is just part of it... NBA.com, NASCAR.com.. The list goes on.
With Jobs at the helm or with a controlling interest, this could be a HUGE synergy with the iTunes delivery model.
This will make Microsoft and Sony very nervous. - workbench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If Jobs can make Disney profitable he will have to be recognized as a god by all people, and that is not fair to the non "F-ing fanboy losers."
- JayRod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Or maybe Steve Jobs can turn the Epcot ball into an Apple if he becomes CEO of Disney.
- zunigbab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have a bad feeling that if Disney were to acquire Pixar, Pixar would eventually start turning out the poor quality films that Disney has been. Disney is micromanaged to a fault. Pixar's autonomy from Disney is their real value. After that is gone along with Pixar's management, all you have is a bunch of talented people who can animate but have no direction.
- jpyun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Disney blows.
Pixar owns.
God I hope that doesn't happen. - ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Disney makes crap
Pixar makes good flicks
Disney + Pixar = *****
Please god don't let this happen. - dimatt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0omg older than jesus riding a dinosaur!
- tsupersonic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Hmm, why are there stupid stories that I don't want to see?
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