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- sophiaperennis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31"The better the DRM control the more people will enjoy the content because they will be protected from themselves."
Most humorous line in the whole article. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18I for one am glad I'll be protectd from myself, I might have wanted to do something crazy like watch a film on my laptop which I payed for and legally downloaded
Don't think I ever could have forgiven myself for that - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Wait, there are more US pirates than Chinese pirates? Doesn't China have a HUGE problem with piracy?
- Chrysalid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14http://www.iofilm.co.uk/pix/features/2006/dvd_insider.jpg
MPAA doesn't mention that the biggest cause of the lost income is that Hollywood keeps producing crappier and crappier movies, so people don't buy them. Companies like RIAA and MPAA are just interested in making money and trying to make the AVERAGE customer's life more difficult. What comes to DRM, the idea is dead already. It is not possible to make an unbreakable encryption, so what's the point of DRM then? - dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I can't stand all the "protection" they put on DVDs.
I bought a Collectors edition copy of Serenity, 100% legal, and a great movie, but what annoys me most is that not only can I only watch it in DVD players that are Region 4 (Australia) or region free (granted that covers most of mine), but my pirate copy is the same quality, region free, and has the "PU-Ops" removed (Prohibited User Operations) which means that I can skip the extremely annoying anti-piracy ads at the start of the DVD. (Granted I could remove them altogether, but I'm lazy). I really don't like the fact the copy I paid for is inferior to a pirate copy. (Ignoring the fact that the real one looks better, and being collectors edition has a fancy tin)
It also wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were spending more on R&D for their stupid, annoying, and effectively useless anti-piracy measures than they are losing to piracy in the first place. (And the fact that they spend that, and it is usually cracked in days, meaning there are damn close to just as many pirate copies of things floating around, but the cost of the legal ones goes up to cover their stupidity is down right insulting)
If there was a proposition for a law banning ALL forms of DRM like protection, forcing the producers to release a DVD that can be played in any player, the way the USER wants, I would support it 100%. - cbiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Most of Hollywood is scared. They are ignorant to the scope and purpose of new technology. It's like a caveman being afraid of the moon.
- Kahnza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I don't know what you guys are talking about as far as reduced quality of downloaded movies. Everything I download is better than VHS. Very watchable. And then there are the full DVD rips and HD.
- cazabam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7There's a lot of truth in this. A film that looks or is reviewed (by peers, not press) as great will get me to the cinema, then buying it on DVD. As they get progressively worse, I go down to borrowing it. If nobody I know has it, I could rent, but based on what a LOT of people I know are saying, they'd rather just download it. They'll happily sacrifice quality because they're only watching it out of morbid interest anyway.
- JoeFasanella, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6im willing to sacrifice quality for the convenience of having multiple movies on a single hard drive, dvds are so big by today's standards and easy to scratch that traveling with a hard drive full of movies is much easier than a case or even spindle full of dvds, i would be much happier if they developed a standard to distribute movies on a smaller form of media rather than moving on to higher quality
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Correct, on a standard-screen TV or computer monitor XVID or DIVX is at least as good as VHS. And depending on where you get them, you can usually get short samples to see if it will fit your standards.
- dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"Yeah those anti-piracy adverts in the cinema always crack me up, they show it as being youtube quality, when in actual fact it's DVD quality"
One of the anti-piracy ads they have here starts with "You wouldn't steal a car!", with a scene showing someone breaking into a car, and goes through a bunch of things down to "You wouldn't steal a movie", with a scene showing someone stuffing a DVD into his jacket. It then plays the final scene backwards and says "Would you?", followed by "Piracy is stealing" and "Stealing is against the law".
There are two things I find offensive about this ad. The first is, piracy, it's NOT stealing, it's copyright infringement, the definition of stealing involves removing the original item from someone else's possession, which never happens with piracy. It would be like seeing your neighbor buy a cool car, and then building an identical copy of it. You haven't stolen your neighbor's car, you have simply copied it, and probably trespassed on a few patents and the like, but no theft was involved. The second, is that the ad presumes to tell me what I would or would not do. It states outright that I "would not steal a TV", etc, and only questions the final statement about the movie. While in most circumstances I wouldn't steal a car or a tv, or the other items mentioned, who are they to tell me what I would do? (And for the record, I WOULD steal a movie, if it was from say a multi-national store that charged considerably more than the recommended retail price, and still makes billions of dollars profit every year because people are stupid enough to give money to these criminals, however I would NEVER steal from someone who didn't deserve it, such as an independent store.) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah those anti-piracy adverts in the cinema always crack me up, they show it as being youtube quality, when in actual fact it's DVD quality
Even the telesyncs more or less match VHS - agentgonzo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Wait, there are more US pirates than Chinese pirates? Doesn't China have a HUGE problem with piracy?"
I think it's more a case of "America having a HUGE problem with the Chinese piracy". Are the Chinese that worried about it? - hypnotizd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@dacheetah ""PU-Ops" removed (Prohibited User Operations) which means that I can skip the extremely annoying anti-piracy ads at the start of the DVD"
I could not agree more. The one thing I absolutely HATE about DVDs is putting in the movie and having to sit through 2 minutes of FBI warnings, studio logos and other garbage. I just want to put in the movie, hit "MENU" and get to the menu! Not see a "you can't do that" symbol. - eliot2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Almost nothing has ever been successful in slowing the trend toward piracy, but there has been progress, and that's what the music and movie industry need to be looking at. iTunes, for instance, is a service used by people savvy enough to download their stuff for free, but they sell millions of songs by making them cheap (ish) and easy to get, with dependable quality. We don't pirate because we want to steal, we pirate because we want media on our terms, and not having to drive to the mall or pay $9 for a large soda is worth the risk to most people.
- ddales, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I see the problem as DVDs themselves and not necessarily the industry in general, including DRM.
$10-14 - Ticket price for 1 seat in a theatre with cell phones ringing, people smacking on snacks, people yapping with each other, slurping every last drop of their soda, and the ungodly half hour of commercials before the first frame.
OR
$30 to sit in your own lounger without all the above and be able to pause when you have to piss! Also, the wait for the reviews before spending $1 advantage!
The choice is obvious. - cago, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5What about the real pirates that hijack ships (No really, they still exist) such as the incident with a shipment of Nintendo DS being stolen as booty?
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Amen... Both companies are just in making money, they don't care if it looks or sounds good.
They just wonder why the movie 'Leonard Part 6' did so horribly in the box office, and then realize what happend, and then use Piracy as a scapegoat. - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I find it annoying enough that every Disney movie has 9 minutes of previews before you get to the main menu. Yes you can skip it, but it's still annoying to have to do it every time. This is TAME compared to what's in store for HDDVD and BRDVD.
The high def age will spawn the most convenient, powerful, widespread era of piracy the world will ever know. Why the ultimate era of piracy? Because this is *AA's last chance. If and when they blow the high def product line and succumb to huge losses due to pirates circumventing ridiculous DRM, they will finally get it. They'll either be bankrupt or they'll submit to our demands of reasonable treatment. - cago, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://digg.com/gaming_news/$2.32_Million_of_Black_Nintendo_DS_Lite_Gone_Missing
could be stolen by other means, but they still roam the seas. - psych0fish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ddales
"half hour of commercials before the first frame"
Do you mean commercials or movie previews? Some people actually enjoy the movie previews as much as the movie itself. - austinrules, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"And for the record, I WOULD steal a movie, if it was from say a multi-national store that charged considerably more than the recommended retail price, and still makes billions of dollars profit every year because people are stupid enough to give money to these criminals, however I would NEVER steal from someone who didn't deserve it, such as an independent store."
This really is a double standard. That is just giving an excuse for something that is clearly unethical. And, the only reason you feel a need to say it is not stealing is to make yourself feel better.
I have first hand experience with piracy and the studios are not the only companies that lose in this situation. Have you ever thought about the other channels that air movies after they are released in the theaters? If piracy continues to propogate, these companies (which are not affiliated with Hollywood) lose advertising dollars bc the audience has already seen the film and thus reduces the number of viewers that are watching.
I think you should look at the entire value chain when analyzing the situation, as opposed to only looking at it from your perspective. - drgruney, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@ddales
Last I checked I paid $6 to go see Snakes on a Plane. And I've never paid more than $20 for a non-special edition DVD. - Ignignokt01, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6Maddox is a REAL Pirate. Stop trying to change the meaning of the name
- argonsloth, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1We are the space robots.
We are here to protect you.
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