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DRM ACTION ALERT: Get you DRM Elimination Crew suit now!

defectivebydesign.org — On Friday May 25th, around the world and at a theater near you, Disney launch "Pirates of the Caribbean, at World's End". It's time to head to your local theater to help educate the movie going public to what Disney, Hollywood, MPAA, AACSLA, HD-DVD illegal hex codes, and disgraced US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, all have in common. Get ready!

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  • MasterJediYoda, on 10/11/2007, -4/+29I bought my hazardous material suit, I'm going to campaign so these companies know I don't want DRM.
    • Lukaszp, on 10/11/2007, -34/+8OK, bury me but this one sounds LAME!
    • fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -6/+47You and a handful of other people. If the general public actually cared then iTunes wouldn't be a phenomenal success.

      You know what's ***** worse than DRM will ever be? Region-specific discs.
    • tsctsc, on 10/11/2007, -5/+39On Friday May 25th, around the world and at a theater near you, Disney launch "Pirates of the Caribbean, at World's End". It's time to head to your local theater to look like a complete ***** tool, in a yellow suit, trying to inform the borderline illiterate general public of what DRM is. Get ready!

      Fixed.
    • NessTheHero, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7iTunes isn't that bad because it's extremely easy to get around the DRM. Spend a few bucks on rewritable CDs and you can burn and rerip the music to any format you want.
    • ArielMT, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15Region specific disks are, as I recall, part of the DVD standard's DRM-encryption mechanism.

      People seemingly don't care because they simply don't know or (in rarer cases) are misinformed. People do care about DRM when their legally purchased and legally licensed media won't play in their legally purchased media players just because of DRM.
    • moogle516, on 10/11/2007, -23/+1209-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C0
    • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7@ moogle516

      Thanks for the post. I hadn't blocked anyone all week. I feel better now.
    • ne0shell, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I was all for this until I saw the shipping charges - now I know why they are charging only 5 bucks for the throw away suit. 95 dollars for Fedex overnight by 1030? Building a hidden profit into your campaign like that is just as sleazy as the DRM pushers. Thanks but no thanks - good idea but I think if you guys cared about lots of people participating you just screwed yourselves with that BS.
    • RamboJesus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1"""iTunes isn't that bad because it's extremely easy to get around the DRM. Spend a few bucks on rewritable CDs and you can burn and rerip the music to any format you want. """

      Goodness you have to be kidding me. Let me guess your taking those 192 kbps songs and re ripping them to 192 kbps WMA? Tell me does the quality of those ear buds suck so bad that you can't tell how much that sounds like crap? Has it ever hit you that for 99 cents a track you shouldn't have to deal with any bull *****?
  • CalvinLawson, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6Don't worry, Cheney is taking him hunting:
    http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i18871
  • subxero37, on 10/11/2007, -4/+31There's a problem - I advocate anti-DRM mindsets at my school, but nobody is willing to listen long enough for me to explain the concept of DRM or why it is bad. Nobody seems to care because it's something they don't completely understand.

    Is there a single sentence, or a couple of sentences, that are easy to understand for most people, and accurately describe what DRM is, and possibly why it is bad? I'd love to make posters and hang them around school.
    • monergism, on 10/11/2007, -7/+10Single Sentence = DRM allows media distributors to control their media.
    • TheG2, on 10/11/2007, -17/+4Lets be honest, you don't get out much do you?
    • scratched, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13DRM is bad because you fully pay to have legal rights to a product that is significantly less useful than the same pirated product.

      When you buy something, you should OWN it. Companies should not control what you can do after you purchase a product.

      It would be like buying a car with the hood welded shut so you can't change it at all.
    • monergism, on 10/11/2007, -15/+18You don't "buy" music or DVDs. You *license* them. I'm a photogrpaher and I don't "sell" my photos, I license them. I should be able to enforce that license.

      As for being "less" useful, you are getting what you agreed to with the *license*. If you want "full" rights, buy a movie and they go for about $1-250 million each.
    • Scheissen, on 10/11/2007, -2/+23^ It's called "fair use." The user already paid for it and should be able to do whatever he/she wants with it like encoding it for a portable media player.
    • scratched, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16@monergism

      The point I'm trying to make is that if I go to a store and buy a product, I should be allowed to do what I want with it within legal boundaries. I shouldn't be told "you paid for this, but you can only use it on what we tell you"

      You may "license" your photographs, but do you tell people "you can only use this picture on the wall in your house" or do you let people put it wherever they want as long as they don't make copies to sell?
    • monergism, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11I agree with fair-use and without the freedom to move it to whatever player you want, DRM is evil.
    • Bamborzled, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11Try this one:

      DRM makes you pay more for music/movies. (You have to pay multiple times for the same song/movie)

      Won't work on the rich kids, though...
    • Avalontor, on 10/11/2007, -13/+2Why the hell are you telling people about the evils of DRM if you can't even figure it out for yourself. Sheep
    • moogle516, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6"You don't "buy" music or DVDs. You *license* them. I'm a photogrpaher and I don't "sell" my photos, I license them. I should be able to enforce that license."

      Ye, but do you sue people who have purchased a photo from you and have scanned it, and printed it to a larger size?
    • Jeremy23, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I use this, and it gets people interested:

      Digital Rights Management is a system where it allows big greedy corporations to control _your_ rights.
    • Elranzer, on 10/11/2007, -8/+7"It would be like buying a car with the hood welded shut so you can't change it at all."

      Sounds a lot like buying a Mac.
    • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1"Nobody seems to care because it's something they don't completely understand."

      Or perhaps nobody seems to care because they really don't care.
    • chicagobiker, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2@monergism

      Right, but I buy your licensed print from you and decide to copy it and wallpaper my room with it, that's my fair use. If I decide to view it from a mirror, or use it as a tablecloth, or take a camera and project it onto a wall, or scan it and make an 8x10 for my car, that's all fair use. If I want to loan it to my neighbor for a night, still fair use.

      DRM aims to abolish all of this.

      To keep your photo analogy going, the way this is headed, they're looking to charge art galleries a fee for each person who looks at a painting and if you buy a print they want the gallery to permanently afix the thing to your wall in a glass case that only they have the key to. If you want to move the work to another room of your house they want you to pay them again to reinstall the work in the other rooom. And Gonzales' new idea is to propose a law that if someone comes to your house and takes a picture of your picture, they're a felon and should face inprisonment and heavy fines. Or if the glass breaks, or you break it intentionally for whatever reason, it's considered an "attempted infringement" and also carries a jail sentence. They're allso looking for ways law enforcement can monitor the inside of your home for these attempts.
    • monergism, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3@chicagobiker
      Simply wrong.

      Refer to the US copyright section 107

      107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use

      Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include —

      You're example is invalid. You aren't reproducing MY art for criticism, comment or research.
    • chicagobiker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@monergism

      It's not wrong. It's an analogy. Here is what DRM and Gonzales seek to end:

      http://www.bitlaw.com/source/17usc/1008.html

      Title 17, section 1008 of the United States Code, U.S. Copyright Act:

      "Prohibition on certain infringement actions

      No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings."

      I own a CD or DVD I'm free to make as many copies of it as I want for noncommerical use.
    • mpam, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1@subxero3
      This is soo true... I think I'll try the sentence of Jeremy23. Then if it doesn't work I'll try "DRM are too successful and widespread because too many ppl have too low IQs".

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  • mycoplasma, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13I'm all for getting rid of DRM, but can't we come up with a better uniform than that?

    Also, I thought of the most awesome slogan ever: "Let's pirate Pirates!"
    • Netrilix, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10A friend of mine's PotC:1 disc says "Pirated Pirates! Oh Noz!" on it.
    • VANOS, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yeah that suit is completely stupid looking unless it's raining.
    • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2@ mycoplasma & Netrilix

      Thank you for again illustrating why corporations support DRM.

      If you guys really want someone to blame for your inability to move media from one player to the other, look no further than the above two posters.
    • Netrilix, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2actorboy: Note that I said "a friend of mine". Personally, I own both Pirates movies legally. I don't mind paying for DVDs at all, I have a decent collection of them. But yes, your point does stand. DRM is always going to be around because people do pirate, and it ***** over the rest of us trying to do legal stuff like moving media.
  • BobbyMC, on 07/21/2008, -2/+22Region specific discs are like, the origin of DRM.
    • Elranzer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Macrovision protection on Beta/VHS tapes pre-dates DVD regions.

      Macrovision is the original DRM company, and one of its largest advocates today.
  • monergism, on 10/11/2007, -8/+10This could get interesting. Nothing like a bunch of unemployed highschoolers listening to stolen music on iPODs talking on their cell phones during a movie I paid money to see (not license).
    • D3koy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13And if they are in noisy plastic suits....Time for a smackdown...
  • Backwards2, on 10/11/2007, -12/+7Why does this bogus organization get on Digg's front page so often???? They always announce WORLDWIDE events, and the results are ....... NOTHING. Except, of course, self-promotion on DIGG.

    Stop wasting our time.

    The DIGG management should be embarrassed by so much gaming of the site!!!!!
  • relic2279, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13We need more people doing things like this.

    Not ignorant people (well, severely ignorant and annoying would be a better description) who are holding picket signs making noises.

    What we need (This goes for any protest, or the like) is people out there educating others so they can be well informed about the issues at hand. Thumbs up for education.
  • Zoltair, on 10/11/2007, -8/+5Lame, and I thought from the title it was going to be something of value, instead just a bunch of would be wanna be pirates trying to claim some limelight and wear an eye patch, LAME.....GEt a job, buy your tunes...
  • DavidMA, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4get a life
  • D3koy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9I was going to go to see pirates opening night in costume....but this is a much better idea....


    Kidding, both are equally dumb...
    • MikeWanDo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Well, (unless you're ugly) you'll look kickass in a pirate costume, but otherwise accomplish nothing. On the other hand you could wear a suit that makes you look rather stupid (even if you're ugly), but hopefully educate some people who might do something.

      Personally I'm all for educating people about DRM and why we shouldn't have it, however wearing a suit like that probably isn't a good way to get people to take you seriously. I would hope that instead anyone interested in educating others would do it where they might reach someone who would get what they're saying (but has been ignorant).
  • SilentSpyder, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1I wonder if Jobs and Disney have beef over DRM?
  • dave932932, on 10/11/2007, -7/+6This is such a stupid cause. Protest about almost anything else like corruption, global warming, inequity around the world, Iraq, anything but DRM. Yes, DRM is bad, but hey, you're rich enough to buy games, music and movies. You all look like spiled brats.
    • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Interesting that dave932932's comment is/was in negative diggs when I read it. In yesterday's comments on Alberto Gozalez' proposal to make *attempted* copyright infringement illegal, mbwilliamson said: "This is ridiculous. Obviously, we have bigger problems that need our attention rather than piracy..." That comment got +179 diggs.

      Double standard much?
  • ubuwalker31, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6In Soviet Russia...DRM suits You!
  • Avalontor, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3yea, just what we need, uninformed diggers spreading the word. Any of you would be crusaders actually have any credentials to back up your rhetoric? I mean come try that at my theater, why would you think anyone would care to listen to you.
    • chicagobiker, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Because Disney wishes to bar you from making a copy of the DVD to play in the car for the kids. They want you to buy a second copy for the car. If you loan the DVD to your neighbor, or attempt to copy the DVD the attorney general is proposing you be charged as a criminal and face jail time for your act, even if you don't succeed but just try to copy the DVD you purchased. He also wishes to enact this law to give law enforcement tools to monitor your actions with this media inside your home and on your computers and any attempt to circumvent thier licese would land you in jail as well.

      Think of this situation: it's only a flight from NY to LA, I'll just rip the DVD I bought to my laptop for the trip. Well, not according to Disney you won't, you'll either play the original DVD in the drive of your machine (killing your battery life) or you'll purchase and download a copy for your computer at full price from their website. Attempting to work around any of this they're proposing should land you in jail and they wish to give law enforcement the tools to monitor what you're doing with this to thwart any "attempts".
    • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4@ chicagobiker

      Calling ***** on you. On 9/19/06 you posted in http://digg.com/software/Xtorrent_public_beta_1_reviewed

      "same crashing problems here too. I'm not sure what, if anything, this has over Transmission? It's searching features aren't all that great when you know exactly where you want to get something from. Searching for .torrent files and Yahoo and Google ain't the way to go for the experienced user I don't think."

      In other posts, you've also come out against copyright holders being able to persue infringers.

      So which is it, *****? Longing to legally burn a disposable copy of The Little Mermaid for your sweet little something? Or just wish it was easier to get that ***** in your share folder?

      You are the reason DRM was created. Interesting that you dugg a story with the title: "Never heard the "blowback" explanation for 9/11--Guiliani caught lying?" Pot, Kettle. Kettle, Pot.

    • chicagobiker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1@actorboy

      "So which is it, *****? Longing to legally burn a disposable copy of The Little Mermaid for your sweet little something? Or just wish it was easier to get that ***** in your share folder?"

      It's neither *****. It's telling a movie studio if they sell me a ***** DVD I can make as many copies of it as I want to. And if I choose to upload it to another computer, or store it on another mediem they cannot and will not charge me again for it.

      The idea that they are going to get a dime for every copy they produce of a work is ancient history. Attrition of theft will happen in the digital world and DRM is not the answer. Sell a quality product and people will buy it.

      You can put as many anti-theft devices in stores as you want, people will always steal product.

      Limiting my rights as a consumer however, because someone steals, will not stand.

      DRM wansn't created for me, DRM was created to monetize on a distribution scheme that's been passed over to make future "talent" (if you really are an actor) like yourself feel comfortable in your caft that you'll get paid.

      The future happened, and record companies and Hollywood studios are history. In ten years there won't be an MGM or Waner Brothers. There will be Ustream, Vimeo, Viddler, Revver. People will talk about movie studios like they talk about buggy whip manufactuers.
    • RealityCheque, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2What a stupid response. Just because a person uses torrents doesn't make that person a hypocrite if they think sending some overweight nerds to the theater (sizes X-large and xx-large only available sizes, HAHAHA) is going to do anything.

      This IS a stupid idea. Most people at theaters will point at you and laugh (though I wager anyone that thinks "dressing up in theme" to the movie theater is used to people pointing and laughing at them to begin with).

      Get real.

  • cwcentral, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Why Pirates? Why now?

    Why didn't this happen during Spiderman 3? "The high grossing opening ever?" Considering it's Sony, our infamous 'rootkit' vendor?

    Obviously someone has a beef about Disney? All the Big 5 media wants DRM to an extent, the industry is transparent when it comes to tech.
  • Taorluath, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I don't see any actual pictures of the t-shirt, where are they?
  • lorductape, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3***** DRM
  • twodayslate, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2What the hell do they look like?


    Server down?
  • GodsFavorite, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I am all for DRM.

    I should not be allowed to profit off of another person's product. I don't want people taking my stuff and profiting off of it themselves.

    The current incarnation of the MPAA (and the RIAA) is way beond protecting copyrights, they are simply squeezing consumers for every penny that they have.
    • ccanni1028, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4"I should not be allowed to profit off of another person's product. I don't want people taking my stuff and profiting off of it themselves."

      This isn't about profiting off of another person's product. It's about fair use laws being violated by DRM laws, and now DRM laws being expanded even further into fair use.
  • dizparks, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1May 25th? But Disney pushed the opening up to May 24th at 8:00 p.m. Oh well can't get it right all the time.
  • benitojuarez, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3May 25th should only be about the 30th anniversary of Star Wars, nothing else.
  • ZPWeeks, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Anybody else think that it would be a bit ironic doing this outside a movie about *Pirates*?
    • Netrilix, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Ironic? No. Coincidental? Closer, but no. Planned? Yeah, I think that's it.
  • Big_Poppa_K, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3May 25th should be about Towel Day. (but then, DRM sounds like a Vogan concept)
    • ccanni1028, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Thank the Dolphins someone mentioned this.
    • CaptainBlack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2hitchhiker geeks.

      some people are star trek fans, some are star wars fans, then there are douglas adams fans.

      they should make a mac/pc parody of that: guy gives the spock sign, "Hello I'm a Trekker." second guy waves hand in obi-wan fashion, "And I'm a Warsie." third guy, holding a towel, "42."
  • GotMex, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I'd rather people take those 5 dollars and donate them to groups that know how cryptography to get rid of this silly DRM even better.
  • gleem, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Favorite summary of the real message behind DRM:

    "All because you bought it doesn't mean you own it."
  • aserer511, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1LOLHARD@using PoTC to further a cause.
  • RathiDragon, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0Lets think for a second...
    What is the main group responsible for DRM circumvention?
    Poor college students, who what?
    Eventually become wealthy, paying customers.
    Do they really wanna f - up that market?
  • SpikeLee, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I would rather protest in class rather than come off as a strange oddball hippy like the enviormentalists out there. Why not protest and look like everyday people. Instead we come off as oddball outcasts that dont appear to be connected to society.
  • ECmaxi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Okay, this one sucks

    You see, i am going to watch this movie in cinema, DRM or no DRM.
    Because i love Depp and i enjoyed the first two parts.

    There is a difference between resisting DRM and spoiling the enjoyment of a good movie.
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