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- erad222, on 02/19/2008, -0/+40Where did all the HD DVD hate come from? I seriously haven't seen such a bloodcurdling hate since the PS3 came out.
- jkoski, on 02/19/2008, -12/+39"Q: I chose sides early in the HD DVD/Blu-ray shenanigans and unfortunately, made the right decision and supported HD DVD. What do I do now?"
Wow... I didn't realize that Gizmodo liked sucking HD-DVD ***** so much... - plizard, on 02/19/2008, -7/+34these articles are getting annoying. we know hd-dvd is dead. stfu already
- Gryffydd, on 02/19/2008, -1/+24Oh...so *THIS* time it's really really honest to goodness official? Really?
- keiths, on 02/19/2008, -2/+21I don't see what the big deal is. If you have HD-DVDs you can still play them in your HD-DVD player. Why sell your HD-DVD player and movies?
- Gryffydd, on 02/19/2008, -0/+19Who knows? I think it's pretty funny how the digg mob was trashing the PS3 and BluRay just a few months ago.
- robbob, on 02/19/2008, -5/+23Buried for redundancy
- emehrkay, on 02/19/2008, -7/+24Is it me or has HD-DVD just seemed like the better format from the beginning? There were the defined standards that each player had allowing get 1a adopters to have the same functionality as 2c people. The manf processes only needed to be slightly upgraded saving money on that end. Reviews & reports always seemed to say that he HD DVD version was better than the Bluray one.
WTF happened? - zedebsky, on 02/19/2008, -6/+21They gotta suck something and Steve Jobs isn't always in the mood!
- RevJonathan, on 02/19/2008, -2/+13Wait wait wait..... HD-DVD is dead?
- DiggLive, on 02/19/2008, -3/+13American business as usual. Money settles everything.
- hipnerd, on 02/19/2008, -0/+9There are more differences, most of which broke in favor of HD-DVD.
Link: http://www.badmouth.net/hd-dvd-vs-blu-ray-the-fina ... - jpop, on 02/19/2008, -0/+9The studios went with the system with more DRM, hoping that it won't be cracked as easily as DVD. Blu-Ray has options for 2 layer DRM.
- zedebsky, on 02/19/2008, -1/+10The outlook for hd-dvd owners (including myself) actually isn't that bad. We already have the players and soon they will be selling off the movies nice and cheap. You'll be able to build a pretty good collection for a great price since there's plenty of titles on hd-dvd.
- Ganja420, on 02/19/2008, -1/+10***** $ony
- hexydes, on 02/19/2008, -2/+10How gullible can you possibly be? Blu-Ray won for two reasons:
1. Paid more money to the studios.
2. Ridiculous amounts of DRM.
The quality is the same, the price is more, there are shifting standards making parts of movies not function on older players...there is not one compelling reason for people to go with Blu-Ray, and that's just it. Sony got the studios to side with them before the consumer market could collectively make an intelligent decision, effectively removing the option for the consumer.
You'll have Blu-Ray because Sony paid for a win, and they paid for it with not only money, but your rights and convenience as a customer. - inactive, on 02/19/2008, -1/+9Dugg for Gundams.
- hipnerd, on 02/19/2008, -1/+8The studios made a choice on behalf of the consumer. The early lead provided by the PS3 helped a whole lot, too, even though it would pretty meaningless in the long run.
- merreborn, on 02/19/2008, -1/+8All the tech sites (including digg and slashdot) were pro-HD-DVD early on.
Sony sucks, remember? - skankyBacon, on 02/19/2008, -0/+7Why does it matter? He seems fully accepting of the fact that Blu-Ray won. It doesn't mean everyone has to agree that Blu-Ray is/was the superior technology.
- jpop, on 02/19/2008, -1/+8Actually, the HD DVD camp forced the early release of Blu Ray. Which is why 99.999% of the Blu Ray players don't have the same capabilities as HD DVD on release (thus the whole Profile mess). They released early to compete with HD DVD.
- coit, on 02/19/2008, -7/+14From those folks who feel the need to justify spending $600 for their PS3.
- ralphie81, on 02/19/2008, -2/+8My sentiments exactly. As far as I'm concerned, I have a nice, cheap, upconverting DVD player that also plays the 15 or so HD DVDs I have (which I all got for free, oddly enough).
- trogdor282, on 02/19/2008, -0/+6Obvious blog is obvious. Can I get one of these for VHS?
- inactive, on 02/19/2008, -0/+6I give you HD DVD. For you my friend, Special Price.
- Gryffydd, on 02/19/2008, -1/+7And if they can't suck Jobs, they just go back to sucking at journalism :)
- slimjim5811, on 02/19/2008, -2/+7Does this mean I won't get my 5 free HD DVD movies that I sent away for?
- mavranos, on 02/19/2008, -2/+7F Sony!
- bobbknight, on 02/19/2008, -1/+6Sony blows for it's root kit, boycott and pirate Blue-Ray.
- coit, on 02/19/2008, -2/+7Approved by the Department of Redundancy Department
- zdiggler, on 02/19/2008, -0/+5and 8 layers of rootkits and 64 layers for undocumented super root kits built right in to the system.
- digjam, on 02/19/2008, -5/+9Sony gave a blo-job to all the studios!
- hasslinthehoff, on 02/19/2008, -7/+11Oh my God this is so unimportant... the only people who keep bringing this up are PS3 fanboys. The rest of us could care less b/c we're already downloading HD movies on Xbox Live.
- hipnerd, on 02/19/2008, -1/+5The cost advantage was for the players. And subsidized or not, HD-DVD players were always far cheaper than comparable Blu-ray. You could even argue that Sony subsidized far more heavily with the Blu-ray player in the PS3.
I disagree you on the PQ and audio quality issue. Both formats had more than enough space to deliver 1080p content. There is notheing to suggest that extra bandwidth was needed or useful. Warner Bros. actually used the exact same encodings for both formats. Both formats could provide a digital, lossless audio soundtrack. Lossless=perfect. Extra bandwidth is not going to improve "perfect."
As for features, you skipped the fact that all current Blu-ray players except for the PS3 can't upgrade to Profile 1.1 or Profile 2.0. If you want picture in picture or Internet content, you'll need to buy a new player later this year.
Ah well, we all put emphasis in different areas. For my HD-DVD was ready now. I'll wait for Blu-ray to drop in price and get Profile 2.0 out the door before I even consider buying one. (Unless I pick up a PS3 for gaming.) - lukemann, on 02/19/2008, -0/+4You're hilarious, there is still tons of stuff that never made it from VHS to DVD. You think everything is going to make it to blu-ray? Also plenty of movies that made it to dvd aren't even good transfers. It's doubful the blu-ray transfer will look any better then the already botched dvd transfer.
- hipnerd, on 02/19/2008, -1/+5Well, HD-DVD didn't have any region coding to start with. My friend Pat got the entire "Band of Brothers" miniseries on HD-DVD imported from Japan and it plays just fine. And HD-DVD had about a third of the DRM crap that Blu-ray did.
From a consumer-friendliness standpoint, HD-DVD was a much better choice. Maybe that's why the studios picked the other horse. - steelclash84, on 02/19/2008, -2/+6If something happens to your hd-dvd player and they don't produce them anymore (ie a year down the road the player dies), you can't replace the player, and therefore all of your movies on hd-dvd are useless. If you can sell the player and movies off, you can at least get some money back from your investment.
- dyzlexiK, on 02/19/2008, -2/+6No, its the fact that Gawker has posted "HD-DVD IS DEAD" like 10 times in the past 2 days. They really do need to STFU.
I didnt buy either one, dont plan on buying HD anytime soon either. - krische, on 02/19/2008, -3/+7Kind of like how all of the 360 fanboys kept bringing up their thoughts that the PS3 was going to fail cause it was expensive and had blu-ray in it?
Guess they were wrong on that one. - keiths, on 02/19/2008, -2/+5What are you talking about
- skeen07, on 02/19/2008, -3/+6I actually thought it was a good read.
- BigPapi, on 02/19/2008, -1/+4H-O-L-Y *****. Enough already! I don't give a ***** about HD DVD or Bluray. Stop posting all these articles. There's like 10 every single day!
- krische, on 02/19/2008, -0/+3Yes, I would assume all blu-ray players play and even upconvert DVDs. I know for a fact the PS3 does.
- rogerbly, on 02/19/2008, -0/+3Waiting for the calls tonight from older reletives asking "will my DVD player still work".
yikes, the "HD DVD is dead" story was on the 2 TV channels and 2 radio stations I listed to this morning... and that was less than 1hr total viewing/listening time. I think the word is out. - hipnerd, on 02/19/2008, -1/+4@kingmanic: I understand the theory, but from what I've seen, there is no appreciable difference in picture quality between HD-DVD and Blu-ray. It's a theoretical advantage that appears meaningless when it comes to displaying movies -- especially since the studios don't even seem to care about using any of the extra bandwidth Blu-ray provides.
PS3s can upgrade. No other player on the market can upgrade to Profile 2.0. I may be buying a PS3 soon if I can talk my wife into another toy. Maybe she'll buy it to play Rock Band. She loves Guitar Hero III.
@TBobes. Yep, for $100 with five free movies. I'm too not upset considering the cost. I plan on raiding the clearance bin and getting more movies as they are discontinued. Eventually, I'll pick up a dual-format player when the cost comes down, and I'll enjoy my existing library and start buying Blu-ray titles. - krische, on 02/19/2008, -2/+5Uh, I thought this was already done months ago.
http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html - Rayfound, on 02/19/2008, -2/+5On paper, HD DVD was the right decision. Cheaper players, cheaper disc production, finalized spec.
The only stumbling block was the slight difference in capacity (which isn't really all that importatant). This format war was never about the technical aspects of each, it was about the business/political aspects of the alliances.
My question is: did the repeated breaking of the HD DVD copy protection help cause the studios to sign-up exclusive Blu?? - inactive, on 02/19/2008, -0/+3what part of ***** DRM don't you understand?
- dvdchris, on 02/19/2008, -0/+2Then buy another one from eBay or Amazon. There will be players around for years.
- fauxXenophanes, on 02/19/2008, -0/+2What about ROM revision 3.0 (or whatever)?
Just what kind of friggin' cheat sheet is this ?? -
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