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- BojPhoto, on 11/08/2009, -0/+27That voice over was terrible.
- ZigZagZilla, on 11/08/2009, -0/+23This revealed absolutely nothing.
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/08/2009, -0/+13God I am sick of event after event after event. Sadly everything thing that happed in marvel for the last 5 years, already led up to two events, I would prefur it not lead to yet another. Character development has ceased, the world is a series of OMG moments, to the point that no event can seem important by contrast.
Avengers Dissembled -> House of M -> All the mutants being depowerd (198) -> Endangered species ->Civil War -> Illiminaty crap -> World War Hulk -> More Illiminaty crap -> Secret Invasion -> Dark Reign ->? . STOP, just write comics. The writers had their own development they were writing, all those plot threads are dying, for the world events. Just stop. - StairwayWit, on 11/08/2009, -0/+13The Marvel Wikipedia articles.
- Chooxo, on 11/08/2009, -0/+11Next year:
"Six years in the making: everything they experienced, including that 'Siege' thing that happened last year, couldn't have prepared them for THIS, OMG". - KevinRosa, on 11/08/2009, -0/+10nice power point presentation
- StairwayWit, on 11/08/2009, -0/+9Neil Gaiman's The Sandman.
You won't want to stop reading after Issue #8. - bsonline, on 11/08/2009, -2/+9To be honest, I hate comic books. Now that you are done clicking that little red button, I'll explain for anyone that read further. They are too short. I want to be engrossed, but waiting a month almost every month for the story to continue is too much for me. And while I can appreciate the pictures, I prefer a novelization. Death and Life of Superman was a great experience. I wish I could find more books like it. Anyone have favorite "combine multiple series and events and possibly years of issues into one book" books?
- StairwayWit, on 11/08/2009, -0/+7I SMELL A RETCON!
- Red989, on 11/08/2009, -0/+6Since Marvel Zombies was canon and everything.
- rocknog, on 11/08/2009, -0/+6Yeah, I know what you mean. I friggin' loved Watchmen in its graphic novel form, but I can only imagine how maddening it would've been had I read it when it was first released as a comic book series. I love comics in general, but I much prefer when I can get a collection in graphic novel format.
- rocknog, on 11/08/2009, -0/+5I don't know if you can really say that a comic book company has jumped the shark. I mean generally speaking, when, say, a TV series does it, there's pretty much no going back. But comic books seem different - there have been many great series that jumped the shark, but then later on, often with a change of writers and whatnot, were ultimately able to go back and "unjump" the shark, so to speak. I mean I guess it's possible for a series to take a turn for the worse and simply never recover, but it seems to me that there's a far greater chance of a comic book recovering than a TV show or a movie series.
- chunkybeefstu, on 11/08/2009, -0/+5In a world...
- ctpatriot1970, on 11/08/2009, -2/+7looks cool
- Chooxo, on 11/08/2009, -0/+5As opposed to "prefur".
- bsonline, on 11/08/2009, -0/+4Published as 10 trade paperbacks? Looks perfect, thanks!
-Pie - pulse768, on 11/08/2009, -0/+3Death and Life of Superman was good; check out The Last Days of Krypton for an original story.
If you want actual comics, I've got a bunch for you: Y: The Last Man, Fables, Transmetropolitan, Planetary, Alias, Preacher, Starman, Astro City, 100 Bullets, Criminal, Top 10, Promethea, All-Star Superman, Gotham Central, Sin City, DMZ, Astonishing X-Men (Joss Whedon's run), Queen and Country, Bone, Zot!, and any edition of Marvel's Essential or DC's Showcase lines. Or stop by your local comic shop or large chain bookstore and check out the graphic novel selection. - Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/09/2009, -0/+2I found it... ok, very good through most of it. Though the end was lame and if left me hating Stark. Especially reading the non-interview he gave at the end, where he basically was shown to have planned much of the events. The Capt. America end was... really terrible.
- Riccallo, on 11/09/2009, -0/+2I quite liked Civil War....
- SerifTheRobot, on 11/08/2009, -0/+2Was that the voice of Beast from the X-Men animated series?
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/08/2009, -0/+2My guess is most of the books in Dark Reign, which is all of them. Bendis owns Marvel these days it seems, so if there is an event, his hands will be all over it. I suggest anything by him, especially his Avengers books. Still trying to read Secret Invasion, so I can't be much more help.
- falconear, on 11/08/2009, -0/+2I think Graphic Novels and Digital Comics are the future. The individual 22 page issue for 3.99 is doomed.
- robdiggity, on 11/08/2009, -1/+3I'm more of a postfur kind of guy.
- SageShini, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1The Joker isn't "evil", he's insane. And Magneto's charismatic, so you make him out to be someone who's not wholly evil when in truth he's nothing more than a terrorist. Charles suffers hatred as well for being a mutant and is completely different. Black and white my arse.
I believe there's plenty of grey in the comics world and in the real world...but at the same time I feel like a lot of times people just look at something black and call it grey so they don't have to be perceived as evil. - bsonline, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1I'm even fine without the graphic portion. Better yet, take some of the best artwork of whatever series, and put it into 20-30 pages at the back of the book. I much prefer a novel, much better exercise for the imagination. Anything Peter David does is golden. I'd love to see him team up with Kevin Smith. Which, you know, never gonna happen.
-Pie
Edit : Everyone, feel free to keep adding to this list. Christmas is coming and books are a great present that is easy on the budget. Increases the chance that my wife will actually get me what I ask for. - falconear, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1OK, here's the non-***** answer:
SUPPOSEDLY everything that has happened over the last five years or so is meant to be a continuous epic by Bendis and Mark Millar, beginning with Secret War.
Spend 10 bucks on a Marvel Online membership and work through the following:
Secret War, Avengers Dissasembled, New Avengers, House of M, Civil War, The Initiative, World War Hulk (optional), Secret Invasion, Dark Reign, Captain America: Reborn, and finally Siege.
Now, did Marvel put their universe through five years of upheaval just to reset everything back the way it was? God I hope not. - Gerakis100, on 11/08/2009, -2/+3I thought Joe Q said they're taking a rest from the big events in 2010, going back to a smaller scale kind of comic book...
- AladinSane, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1“The Civil Dispute”, the “Down Count”, the “Final Fracas” "Covert Intrusion" and “The Drubbing”!
- Riccallo, on 11/09/2009, -0/+1I'm with you. Marvel has been through some good times (Civil War), some bad times (World War Hulk) and some okayish (Invasion to present) so who knows. The only problem really to me seems that each event tries to come up with a "bigger" enemy/obstacle to overcome. Eventually it might get silly cos the Avengers are just going to have to fight Jesus or some *****.
- jaredchambers, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1I'm sick of the retcon events -_-
- RiperSnifle, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1So can anyone tell me briefly what I should read before reading this?
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1Obviously this is not an absolute, DC is not a person, it has individual writers, who can write their own way. The general atmosphere is far more Black and White thought. (I was not the person who dugg you down, it was a fair point).
If you look, a lot of people may side with Magneto's viewpoint over Charles and not be bad people for it... the plot lines in marvel in general are more visceral. DC lacks a tangibility of personality overall that Marvel does not. Either way Marvel DOES need to stop with the plot events, though DC has not been light on them either, Marvel and DC are constantly copying each-other, if one launches a world event, the other is not far behind. The Green Lantern has a world changing event going on right now and Infinite something of Infinite Infinites or whatever (find a new word guys) didn't end all that long ago. Not to mention killing Batman and the fallout... (Really, killed him and it wasn't even his own comic?... tachy) - Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1SageShini.... .... ... You seem to have missed my point, at least in part. I didn't say there was not grey in comics, I said that DC lacked it. Either way, Magneto is a terrorist, but just like in the real world and rather ironically unlike how you seem to see it, being a terrorist does not mean evil. Osama Bin Ladin did not attack (I assume your) country because he is evil. He did it for a variety of reasons, not the least of which was the US's financial aggressions against his country and the region. His acts were evil, he may be evil, but there were reasons behind his actions. Magneto's species is hunted, experimented on, tortured and used as weapons. Given that past, it is not unreasonable to attack his attackers. Charles is different yes, but his way has not found success either and in fact most of his followers have abandoned him at this point.
You say the Joker isn't evil, he's insane... I did not know they were mutual exclusives. - MonoDede, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1Lmao. Seems like those are popular.
- bsonline, on 11/09/2009, -0/+1It took years to finish the Dark Tower series. I don't mind gaps between books (although someone needs to light a fire under Paolini). The problem is moving through a small arc, waiting a month, another small event, another wait, etc.
Speaking of Zombies - A question on a bio assignment asked for possible drawbacks of genetic engineering. :-) - Riccallo, on 11/09/2009, -0/+1My only MAJOR irk with Marvel is currently is this Captain America Reborn crap. If he turns into another Jean Grey and comes back every couple of years for ***** and giggles someone needs shooting.
- josecapgar1, on 11/09/2009, -0/+1Y: The Last Man and The Walking Dead! I hate to jump on the zombie boat so late into the game, but I just recently got into comic books and my local independent store owner got me into The Walking Dead right away. An amazing storyline, five years in the running. You will, however, be disappointed when you catch up. After reading several trade books, you will have to wait once a month like everyone else.
- Manchildcartoon, on 11/08/2009, -1/+2I was with you until you listed Final Crisis.
Even DC doesn't wan't to admit they did that one. - kataztrophy, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1Another big event = another reason I'd rather remain a casual fan of a select few series'. I don't have the time to get caught up on why the event will happen, or the reasoning everyone involved is fighting for...Whatever...Bluh.
- RedSaint, on 11/09/2009, -0/+1Am I the only one who kept hearing the Fora.Tv theme over and over again while watching this?
- elnerdo, on 11/08/2009, -1/+2The Marvel wikipedia articles are, in many cases more interesting than the comics themselves.
- inactive, on 11/08/2009, -1/+1Every issue of Marvel comics starting from the 1960s, good luck.
- BigTuna01, on 11/08/2009, -0/+0DC is not always black and white. Hush is a good example of a character who has more to him than just good and evil.
- Schematic4444, on 11/08/2009, -0/+0IITAKE MUSHROOMS!
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/08/2009, -2/+2DC is too black and white. The Joker is evil, so he does evil things. Magneto loves his people and is a victim of intolerance so is vicious in his means of protection. Thats a believable character. Marvel is shades of grey. Thus Marvel > DC
- josecapgar1, on 11/09/2009, -0/+0By the by, I got into comic books when Stephen King got involved in a Dark Tower comic book series and Orson Scott Card got involved in an Ender's Game series. The artwork in Marvel's Dark Tower series is amazing and triggered some amazing memories from the book. Also worth a look and the first two trade books are available.
- inactive, on 11/09/2009, -0/+0How so? Dark Reign is some of the best stuff in big two comics since Identity Crisis.
- lolerskate, on 11/08/2009, -4/+4After Civil War, Marvel jumped the shark on all of it big earth shattering events, They should take a page in DC gamebook with the Sinestro Corp War, Final Crisis, and Blackest Night.
- tduffy31, on 11/08/2009, -1/+1Yeah i started reading civil war recently. dont think i could of waited a month for the next part
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/08/2009, -2/+1Syntax error - Posfur not found. Sorry friend, not sure what that means.
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