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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+120Yet another reason I think HD-DVD and Blu Ray are a JOKE.
What if your disc is scratched?
Will they still think you're using an illegal copy?
Hahaha. When will they learn.... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+102Let me just get this out of the way quickly before all the comments here turn into a paranoid circle-jerk of outrage:
By the time the cheap-o Taiwanese, Chinese, and Korean manufacturers start pumping out $50 Blue-Ray or HD-DVD players, NONE of these anti-consumer features will be present in them. - mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -10/+87"SONY, are you all on crack? WHO is going to buy this??"
A few groups:
1. The ignorant who do not know that Sony will control their property
2. The Sony/PS3 zealots who will buy it no matter what
3. The same people who will fall for the Vista trap (this might cost me some diggs by the MS fanboys)
4. Anyone else stupid enough
As I said above, I was ready to buy a PS3. Now I'm going to Nintendo. What we need to do is let as many people know as possible. Shy them away from the PS3. I do not think that what Sony would be doing is NOT illegal, but if it is bad enough, their sales will reflect it and inhibit change. - kneu1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+68HD-DVD and Blu Ray are duking it out to become the next Laser Disc. I seriously doubt that either of these formats will take off.
Downloadable content is the future. - Chris_F, on 10/12/2007, -3/+65This just in. If one of these players detects stolen media, it will infect you with AIDS and slay your firstborn.
- CamZak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+46Perfect way to get revenge on someone. Download a disc, pop it in their player, and wham. They're out $800 of a player and have no clue why.
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+51Better not risk it.. after all, the industry already has a solution for this problem.
"Even if CDs do become damaged, replacements are readily available at affordable prices."
http://www.stereophile.com/news/022006fair/ - nosmelc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+49Old news but it still is disappointing. So how long until someone writes a virus to self-destruct all the Blurays?
- leer317, on 10/12/2007, -1/+44Hackers would probably find a way to do a mass self-destruct of blu-ray players.
- Merlyn383, on 10/12/2007, -0/+36And what happens when you go to reacivate them.
1st. You're going to have to pay some serious $$ to have a "professional" do it.
2nd. Part of the process will be an interview with you asking you what you put in the player, where you got, how much you paid for it, what are the names and addresses of all of your friends, and do you know anyone who is copying copyrighted material?
3rd. This will be followed by a 12 page contract which you must sign saying that you will never ever infringe on someone else's copyright ever again. It doesn't matter whether you did it in the first place or not, just don't do it again.
4th. 6 - 8 months later you will be named in a lawsuit were Sony will be suing you based on "proof" that they discovered while fixing your player, information gathered from the player when it is communicating to their servers while you are accessing the "advanced features", and confession that you signed when you got your Blu-Ray player reactivated. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35Not everything on Digg has to be released in the last 3 seconds.
- datagod, on 10/12/2007, -7/+35Oooohhhh....they had me at "YOU FRACKING THIEF!!! ALL YOUR MONEY ARE BELONG TO US!!!"
Mmmmm....DRM.....cant wait to throw away all my DVD's and get hooked up with some of this deliciously overprotected technocrap.
/sarcastic deleruim
SONY, are you all on crack? WHO is going to buy this?? - Fifty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26Screw this. I'm gonna make my own high definition disc format, with blackjack and hookers. You know what, forget the disc.
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27Seriously. If DRM keeps getting harsher, and physical media keeps getting more restrictive, no one's going to buy DVD's anymore. They'll just get what they want on BitTorrent. I am so shocked that the big companies haven't learned yet that DRM sucks some serious ass, and that people are willing to pay actual money for things that don't include DRM crap.
- mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -16/+35Daaamn. I was ready to write the check for the high end PS3. Not anymore.
Since I am in a boycott of Microsoft, no Xbox for me.
Guess I'll have to stick with the Wii - zeldafan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25Depends if the blue rays run on windows or linux ;D
- IcanFLY, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Even if it is illegal, what is to stop them from passing an adendum to the DMCA to fix that?
- schleufer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Um yeah. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Nice feature *****.
What's next? If your car determines you are a bad driver, it will explode?
I hope Blu-Ray fails miserably. - dmsteg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16To Ilyaq... you are absolutely correct except for the fact that Blu-Ray will always be made/controlled by Sony, thus the price will always be ridiculously high and bad DRM will always be a problem.
This will ultimately be Blu-Rays demise as HD-DVD will conform with consumer electronics protocol and eventually, as you put it, be pumped out by the Korans and what not, thus you will eventually see reasonably priced players driving Sony out of the market. - elf586, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14yes and then again other hackers will find a way to reactivate them
- relinquish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13This is ludicrous. Blu ray just lost a potential customer. In fact, I don't think I'll be buying any more portable storage media. The world is moving towards online storage, and larger hard drive capcities are coming out soon.
- Crossmenjeff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Kid: Daddy, why did the DVD player die?
Father: Because you touch yourself at night. - Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19Sure it's an old article, but I didn't know about the self destruct thing; did you?
- dstart, on 10/12/2007, -10/+21Another nail in the coffin..
- Fett101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"Even if CDs do become damaged, replacements are readily available at affordable prices."
I know. I love paying $7 S&H for a replacement of a $20 DVD - Mufflegrump, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Sony's like the first girl you ever slept with.
Who gave you the clap...
And then told you she was pregnant... - omglazers, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17ATTENTION ALL READERS:
Read the article to be /fair/ to the souce.
'Destruction' is not a fair summary because they are simply deactivated and must be RE-activated in order to work
This is a HORRIBLE idea but I don't want people to be misinformed and think that your DVD player is going to blow up randomly. - omglazers, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16Notice that they don't BLOW UP. They deactivate and must be reactivated
- ddales, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10This sounds strikingly similar to the Echostar fiasco of a few years back. Echostar downloaded code in 16 parts to all their satellite recievers. This was recognized as "noise" by the hack jockies so they ignored it and no one was warned.
Once the 16th part was downloaded, strangely enough just a few days before the Superbowl, the 16th part compiled the previous 15 to zap any Flash Bios in receivers in which it detected a "non-standard" smart card or hardware configuration. Suddenly, NO SIGNAL! The only way to fix it was to un-modify your reciever and reflash the factory Bios.
I consulted an attorney when this happened. I wanted to look into the possibilities of suing Echostar for destruction of private property. After all, I purchased my receiver, not rented, therefore, it was my private property even though I was using it in an illegal fashion.
His advice: No problem, but you'll have to admit to pirating their service and you'll have to deal with the consequences of those actions. Obviously not worth it so I dropped the matter and reflashed my receiver.
Were my actions illegal? Undoubtedly. Were Echostar's actions illegal? Good question. Is destroying private equipment when it's being used illegally a crime? Another good question.
I guess these questions won't be answered until it happens and someone has the nuts to go to jail to prove a point and set precident.
It won't be me though! :-) - MasteRR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"I have a pair of sony headphones that are fine, but that is the only sony product i have not regretted buying."
Watch out. Those headphones might detect that you are listening to a burned CD and will "deactivate" your ears. - datagod, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Just use the rock that Microsoft mailed out a while ago.
- IcanFLY, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12That's what I'm waiting for... some hackers to figure out how to do mass destructions. It would be pretty cool and so i'm sure someone would be tempted to figure it out and unleash a wave of destruction. Payload it on some very quick virus like what happened with Slammer and in 20 minutes half the devices world wide are expensive paperweights. (Even if it is reversable I doubt they'd make it a simple task or it would be too easy to get a corrupt BestBuy tech to reactivate it for you once you realize your mistake.
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Sony's never had a problem telling the market what it wants, their problem is that the market keeps not cooperating with their demands.
- c0uchm0nster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10as someone else pointed out, this article is a year old and has been flat out denied by sony.
it's also illegal, in the us anyways. they do not have the right to destroy 1 product because of your use of another product - hell, they can't even do that if they own it (like if you rent a cable box from your provider for example).
I think they might be able to legally destroy the media and then deny you certain online services or something like that - but they can't harm the player itself. - Dhalgren, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9This is funny, how much you want to bet that we are going to have to buy mod-chips for our Blu-ray/hddvd players?
- winampman2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11This is no big deal. I'm sure someone will find an exploit or crack in the firmware, and soon everyone will be playing burned Blu-ray discs with no problem. :) Of course, this is assuming that Blu-ray actually wins this stupid format war.
- uptown, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Nice to see Sony's getting better at lining up their gun with their foot....
- hitman47, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"would you rather back your stuff up an multitudes of DVDs or a couple of BD or HD disks". I would backup my movies on hard disk
- Bostonsox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'd thoroughly enjoy watching blu-ray and hd-dvd be nothing but a funny 8-track betamax type joke in 10 years.
- lukeydukey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Man, if we really wanna prove how bad of an idea this is, let's walk into every best buy, circuit city and what not, and place a bootleg blu ray disc in the drive to piss em off. That may show em. Tehe.
- marty0577, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7thats dumb as *****, one bad store DVD and it fries your player.....good job morons, good job
- krahzee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Then told you it "might" be yours.......
While she kicked your dog on the way out....... - ikkebra, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Did they credit Orrin Hatch with the design?
- bepo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Nice way for Sony to boost profits. If they are having a bad quarter just deactivate a bunch of equipment forcing people to buy new ones.
- freeman755, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Overview of how to kill everyone's Blu-Ray Players:
1) Buy one of these new players, and have ethereal running on your home network.
2) Insert some media that would cause the device to contact the provider and the provider would disapprove of and send the death sentence back to the device.
3) Send the death command that was sent over the network, captured with ethereal, to all IPs on the Internet.
4) Optionally, make a worm that also does this. - TheWriteGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7This is like Circuit City's DIVX all over again.
- rgremill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8This appears to be a class action lawsuit waiting to happen.
- fishindiesea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@dfick
actually i think the lowest price ive seen for hard drive media is around $0.54 per gig (after mail-in rebates of course)
im not trying to invalidate your point but simply saying that $20 for 50 gb blu-ray disc, a brand-new format, seems a litle cheap, certainly given sony's history. (i understand its not just sony but bear with me here)
i would say a blank 50gb blu-ray disc would cost significantly more than 20 dollars on launch, maybe 30 or even 40. thats probably the reason why studios will go with smaller discs for their movies, because that way prices will stay down.
some1 also said downloadable content is the future. i believe it is, but it has to be augmented by integration across a plethora of devices. windows media center, not because if its interface or anything (lest i get flamed on) but because it simply integrates two fundamental things most ppl do,watch tv and go on the computer. ppl said that DVD players in comps wouldnt catch on but when you can have it go to ur living room setup it suddenly becomes much more appealing.
just my 2 cents - dhughes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7 Will Sony survive as a company when they piss off their customers? Mission: Impossible. This product will self-destruct in 3...2...1...
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