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An awesome home made Star Wars lightsaber duel fight scene!

video.google.com — An awesome homemade Star Wars video (5 minutes and 10 seconds) with lightsaber duel fight scene between two teenagers (Ryan Wieber vs. Michael "Dorkman" Scott). These guys should had been in the movies for this fight scene.

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  • smith, on 10/12/2007, -124/+17My review:
    CG: 8/10
    Audio: 4/10
    Story: 1/10
    Overall: 5/10
    Comments: Looks too rehearsed, and lacks the 'Star Wars Kid'.
    • xdomination, on 10/12/2007, -113/+8My review : Too stupid of a news to make it to frontpage....
    • xdomination, on 10/12/2007, -103/+9I am positive that these kind of news just take digg down...
    • dimsumx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12unless you could do better, you're not one to talk. choreographing something like this takes time and lots of practicing and you just gotta give these guys some credit.
  • gnoswal, on 10/12/2007, -8/+45Well you can tell that they're not professionally trained fighters...but for a fan piece...pretty damn good. 8 out of 10... Dugg
    • boscorelle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16trained fighters?.....you jealous....?
      it wasnt about the fighting it was about the effects
    • markperia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13yeah he's jealous...

      even if it was made for the effects you cant deny that the choreography was cool. Man, that was almost as good as any of the original star wars lightsaber fights, if not better.
    • twistx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5He's training to be a cage fighter.
    • invader, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3+digg for the out-of-left-field movie quote that actually fits

      hilarious
  • logicalnoise, on 10/12/2007, -8/+118why did he come back at the end? WHY DO PLOT HOLES MAKE THEIR WAY INTO EVERY STAR WARS MOVIE!
    • RobbieCrash, on 10/12/2007, -23/+14haha +1
    • acceptab1euname, on 10/12/2007, -19/+10CRAP! clicked wrong thumb! there should be one extra digg on that comment :-x
    • Zipp425, on 10/12/2007, -14/+4dang same here.... Thumbs up buddy, good comment.
    • Overdose, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Uhm, it was supposed to be a different character, Using the same actor.(tell by the clothes being different)
    • whoatemydigg, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Yeah that ending got me all confused
    • Crazy_8, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Well. Both a different colored shirt and a different colored light saber. So it was probably intended to be a 3rd person, they just didn't have a 3rd actor to work with.
    • eagleswings, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I thought the one he killed was a Jedi mind-trick version of the guy who killed him at the end
    • Greg-J, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1so true
  • Gryfft, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Heh heh heh... TFN rocks. Where would we be without dorky FanFilms anyway?
    Dugg.
    • ea2973929, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Probably helping the poor or curing cancer or playing F.E.A.R.
  • puffarthur, on 10/12/2007, -17/+19as someone experienced in martial arts, I agree that they were MUCH better than most of the light saber actors in all of the Star Wars movies, mostly because the Star Wars actors and extras really really sucked. Only the actor who played Darth Maul in the fight scenes was a real martial artist (a different actor played Darth Maul in the non-fight scenes). These guys seem to know some flashy moves and have the movements half-right, but they lack elegance and strength and it shows that they haven't had any serious training. What I want to know is why Lucas couldn't hire people with at least some martial arts background to at least make the light saber fights look more authentic? Plenty of people with experience would have volunteered to be extras, heck I know I would have haha.
    • gamabunta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25FYI Ray Park a.k.a Darth Maul, was both his own stuntman and the non fighting actor for Darth Maul. He studies Wushu and it's a little known fact that him and Ewan McGregor bent many of the sabers out of shape during filming because they were swinging the ***** out of them.
    • weaszel, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Perhaps you wouldn't mind telling us what an "authentic light saber fight" is.
    • av4rice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree with weaszel. Chinese/wushu/etc. styles look way out of place to me--aside from the engrish-speaking trade fed guys, China/etc don't exist in SW.

      I prefer the old movies where they used them like actual, you know, SABERS i.e. the medieval style which used swords by that name.

      Better yet, it would be really impressive if they invented some never-before-seen style to use in the movies to reflect how it really is different from the world we live in. It wouldn't even have to be plausible; just good looking and original. Besides, the way a lightsaber works is very different from how any metal sword works. And most styles originate from making the most of how the weapon specifically does its job (stabbing swords have far different style from slashing swords, etc)
    • ea2973929, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually I think that Wushu makes a lot of sense. A lightsaber is extremely light, making it possible to do quick jabs and slashes. Also, it doesn't need force to do damage as it burns right through most materials like butter (except other lightsabers, which are made of... hmm...). All and all it has a lot more in common with daggers than with a traditional saber or longsword.
  • mrivorey, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Dugg... because I've tried to paint lightsabers a few different ways and know how time consuming and expensive it can be.

    I'm confused by the end too... was the first kid that died just a hologram decoy or something?
  • laelfrog, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Sweet for a home video
  • DjDimitrious, on 10/12/2007, -23/+11This has been around and around for about 2 years now
    old old old
  • pondster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Awesome!

    Do you wonder if this is what "Star Wars Kid" really wanted to accomplish when he videotaped himself?

    lol
  • feshmania, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12(since two people asked, I wont directly reply)

    I'm pretty sure the reason the kid comes back in the end is purely for dumb purposes, I don't think that there is any real reason for it other than the fact that it's like wtf?
    • eridius, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5The entire time I was watching, I thought the guy in black would die because he was doing all the classically "bad guy" things, namely having the upper hand through basically the entire match, getting first blood, and continually pressing his advantage. So when he won the duel I was all "whoa, he actually won? Sweet, someone who finally ignores all the standard fight clichés!". Then, of course, the dumb little plot twist afterwards. Sheesh.

      Oh, and the other thing that bugged me was when they both flipped their grips around so the blade was going basically the wrong way, protecting their arm. That's not a main hand grip! That's an offhand grip! Why was one of them doing it, let alone both? I mean, come on! If one of them had been smart he'd have realized that with the other using that grip as main hand, he could easily kill the other guy. That grip protects basically half the body, but that's it. The other half is effectively open, plus you can hardly go on the offensive with a grip like that. Sheesh.

      Still, impressive fighting/effects for a fan film.
    • superalamar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3yeah, the backwards holding thing upset me too, and i strangled a kitten because of it.
  • biff198, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5my friends and I tried to do something like this, but with little luck. Does anyone know where you can get software to create lightsaber effects for a mac (and preferably free. My friends and I are pretty much broke).

    _________________________
    -biff198
    http://www.crusaderflash.com/
    • PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5After Effects is considered the main shizzle for this kind of stuff, but Shake is also an option (it's more comping software, from Apple, actually).

      Neither of them are technically free.
  • reaver, on 10/12/2007, -9/+7haha, star wars nerds.
  • yeg0, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Seen these fan lightsaber duels before, but this probably one of the best, on a technical level. Interesting, but not necessarily front page material.
    • eatasandwich, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I love these self appointed Digg police who decide what should or shouldn't appear on the front page while insulting the creators of the well designed mechanism that brings us all here in the first place.

      George W Bush is hardly a president that Americans would vote for.
    • w0rd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, what is front page material?
  • Ryosen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Yeah, it's old, but it's new to a lot of people. Not me, of course, I've been a fan of http://www.theforce.net since Troops (http://youtube.com/watch?v=o0eU0x1v57w&search=troops) came out.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.
  • berean, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5Old, been done before, nothing special.

    The choreography is boring, the directing is predictable and tiresome, the whole deal is...well, nothing special. Might win a high school film contest, but certainly nothing compared to even bad college freshman work.
    • superalamar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1and yet still better than all three new starwars....
  • mrpither, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1lame ending, but still well done overall. one digg up. special appearance by star wars kid would have pushed it off da hook!
  • vermin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2It was worth a digg.
  • rocu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Most enjoyable... they had fun doing it, and that's what matters. It's a fan film. Of course it's going to be rough around the edges. They're real people who are acting out their fantasies. Great job, guys.
  • ultraelite, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6aka nerd fight '06
  • ZapWizard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Well done.
    The fight was well thought out.
    Could have used a bit more movement around the room, and a few other things destroyed.
    (Lightsabers hit the ground without effect)
  • lobbster, on 10/12/2007, -27/+4***** off star wars losers get a job ass hole and go back to fark
  • 06metzp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3this is kind of old, but still well worth a digg since I haven't seen it on here before.

    the fighting was pretty good, and the irony of the conclusion was tasty.

    Ryan W. also made a good tutorial on how to rotoscope lightsabers which I used for a short (5 sec.) part of a movie I made for english last year.

    dugg.
  • mrmorden76, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2pretty cool
  • Misos, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I wonder if that guy's glasses actually got cracked.
  • berean, on 10/12/2007, -18/+5Oh my gosh. You digg it and make excuses for it because it's a fan film. That's the whole thing, though! It's a FAN FILM, and nothing about it makes at any better than any other fan film! This might be amazing to those of you who've never done film and video, but then juggling probably amazes you, too.
    • joshduck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This had good camera work, special effects, editing and choreography.
    • Scyree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1obviously you've never tried to rotoscope lightsabers. I'm not sure if there are tools around now, but a few years ago I did a 2 1/2 minute scene for a video project by rotoscoping onto each individual frame... that's a lot of hand painting to do at 29fps so if they did it the same way this scene would have taken a considerable ammount of time to complete, using tools isn't as hard i'm sure, but the effects in this short movie were pretty decent in my opinion. Solid clip.
    • fatlip, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4you're just pissed becuase your film got dubbed "star wars kid"
  • Sturmur, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Tech news?
    • XxUNDEROATHxX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3thats why it was classified under the "movies" section....
    • Sturmur, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Movie tech news.
  • Skrolnik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Not Bad. No plot to speak of, but that's why there's other fan films like Duality.

    The Geek is strong with these two.
  • punkguitarist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I think that was amazing.
  • DDarkfire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Ryan Wieber has been around for a while now... He has really good tutorials for rotoscoping lightsabers in After Effects and other misc effects... www.ryan-w.com...
    How is this Digg Related though?
  • Gryfft, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1To clarify, it wasn't the same guy coming back at the end. It was a different guy. Different color lightsaber.
    • Duggy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1no it wasn't.. one had a yellow one the other red... the guy with yellow got stabbed by his own saber... and then the same guy that came from behind stabbed the first guy with his red saber... i think.
  • XxUNDEROATHxX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2They look like a bunch of star wars nerds wih wayy too much time on their hands...The sounds and lighting was pretty good though...Does any one know the programs they used?
    • Misos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Adobe After Effects and some other stuff. Said so during the credits.
    • XxUNDEROATHxX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1yaa, I dont read the credits, so I wouldnt know...
  • gamabunta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I wonder how many times their mom yelled at them during the shoot to take out the trash.
  • percyhanna, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I just got to say that I found the cinematography in this video way better than most movies these days. A lot of movies with fight scenes in them zoom in too much and have really blurry/shaky shots where you can't even tell what the crap is going on. It's probably to hide a combination of the following:
    1 - Crappy stunt guys who can't make the fight sequences look good
    2 - Crappy choreographers who can't make good fights so they rely on closeup shots where you don't really see anything.
    Maybe neither of these reasons are what's going on, but I still liked being able to see the cool moves these two kids came up with. Sure they're not pros, but how old are they?

    Ah well. Just my $0.02.
    • nogami, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was thinking the same thing - I would've liked a few more closeups in the first half (more facial expressions mostly, to build some extra character), but they got it right on the second half.

      Nicely done!
  • nitroskanker, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Anyone know how they do the saber effect?
    • mongrel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Probably good old Adobe After Effects - that's what they used for a number of effects in the real Star Wars even (an acquaintance of mine has a souveneir celluloid frame of a Coruscant "neon sign" he did in AE as an ILM intern - bastard)
  • RobbieCrash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Totally well done. Some stuff could've been sped up a bit, but overall, awesome fan film.
  • HiImMikeCastro, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1WOW i def remember watching this....freshman year of college 3/4 years ago, nothing like old news huh?
    • alevel27mage, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2I know I watched it at least a year ago... though it seems more like 2 years ago.

      a) Not news.
      b) Not new.
  • Moogle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Old video, but I never seem to be able to shut it off. Thats some good editing. I can do lightsaber scenes, but this is overly smooth.
    • kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's what I immediately noticed more than anything, the precise and
      dramatic editing.
  • discoloda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i was quite impressed by that, at first i thought "why should this be on the front page?" but now i know, dugg
  • PhantomaZero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Some stuff was mildly awkward (throwing the saber into the air for the hell of it just to catch it again,) but otherwise very good.
  • acceptab1euname, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Right on! that was a really nicely made fan film, kudos to those guys for their hard work!
  • m1ck3y, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1i've seen way too many of these
  • Mongoose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow! VERY impressive. That's so cool!
  • kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Why is does enthusiasm garner such vitriol here?

    I still swear there is a higher percentage of people here with asperger's than other sites.

    That was well shot, choreographed, performed and edited.
    And consider the format. Were you expecting Reservoir Dogs
    or something? Of course it's dorky, it's supposed to be. Look
    at 'em! It was a blast to watch. If you immediately hated it, it's
    clearly time for your Ritalin.
    • grat2001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Digg 2 U
    • OneAndOnlySnob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Haha. Asperger's is the enemy!!! Come on, we're not ALL assholes.

      Besides, I liked the video. I was as drawn in to this as I was to any of the real Star Wars lightsaber battles, excluding perhaps the ones in episode 1 (only good parts of the movie and perhaps all of the prequels). These children make the battles in ep 4-6 seem childish.
  • mrjkwik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5for the asses posting just to flame, uh, he does have a job. from his site "Now, thanks largely to this site working as an online portfolio for me, I have a job as an associate effects artist at LucasArts, which occupies me full-time".

  • Th3_anOmoLy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A few slow spots where the movements looked too rehersed. But overall this was a great piece of work. You can tell they spent some time from beginning to end. Dugg.
  • vaxguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2hahah sweet. May Star Wars fan films live forever. Good job =D
  • berean, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1He spent 4 months on the effects alone? Sounds lame to me. 4 months could've done much better. Sorry, guys, but just because you creamed your pants doesn't mean it's anything special.
  • bigboludo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Totally dorky--very entertaining!
  • brandonhines, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This was pretty damn cool.

    For all you that are against this type of material: I think you're missing the point of Digg. It's a social news site. No where does anything say that Digg has to be exclusive to tech. New Barbie releases aren't getting submitted -- it's all "geekish".

    And this video even has tutorials to boot. So tell me again what your problem is?
    • Skrolnik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"No where does anything say that Digg has to be exclusive to tech."

      Except for, perhaps the "few simple guidelines to make digg a better place" that are at the very top of the first page of link submission, where the first burger dot just happens to be:

      Quality Technology Content: Is your story technology related?
    • Scyree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought that this WAS tech related.. it took a considerable ammount of TECH to put this film together
  • mlayog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Fun for a "home" video, but there sure are plenty of super critical people out there.
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