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- PhoenixAvatar2, on 05/06/2008, -0/+32He basically has two factors: Time and bad movies. He's right on both counts, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that people won't go to see bad movies and it definitely doesn't take three pages to get these points across.
- gregsmamma, on 05/06/2008, -3/+32three separate pages?
- whatthefu, on 05/06/2008, -5/+34Am I the only one who thinks a Justice League movie would be absolutely retarded?
- jagermeistr, on 05/06/2008, -3/+2611.) Letting Sam Raimi make another Spider Man movie after that debacle Spider Man 3.
- rebotfc, on 05/06/2008, -2/+24Any film with Ice Cube in it.
- inactive, on 05/06/2008, -0/+16Well having a Namor movie...Vinny Chase aside is probably not the smartest idea.
- coldfusion1970, on 05/06/2008, -1/+14Very good article and as a major comicbook fan i always worry about the bubble bursting.
Its a good thing that Iron Man was such a good movie, now fingers crossed for Wolverine. - Dumbledorito, on 05/06/2008, -0/+13It most likely will be. Ensemble casts are hard to manage, unless you get a multi-picture deal. Otherwise, you're stuck with A- and B-list actors in the principle roles, all with contracts stating X amount of lines/screen time, regardless of the needs of the story. Conversely, you can have a better script with more Batman, less Wonder Woman, or whatever, but with C-list actors the only ones willing to fill the lesser roles.
The JLA cartoon did it better than most movies can, I fear. - Sideshowxela, on 05/06/2008, -0/+12Things with the potential to kills superheroes? Off the top of my head, bullets. Kryptonite, where applicable.
- viklounew, on 05/06/2008, -1/+12My crush on Tony Stark shall remain indefinite.
- supertaliman, on 05/06/2008, -0/+11If you ruined Batman for me, I will personally find and destroy you.
- Dumbledorito, on 05/06/2008, -0/+10Superhero movies? Maybe. Movies based on comic books? Those are likely to stick around much longer, as they're much easier to pitch to producers: Comic books are practically storyboards, they're cheap to produce, they establish ownership of a property, and you can tell practically any story you want to convey.
- jhails, on 05/06/2008, -1/+9*****! Humans will always imagine stories with heroes that must battle against the forces of evil. Its one of the things we have always done. Create stories with characters we imbue with great powers. Its older than the bible. The Greek Gods, The Roman Gods, Egyptian Gods, Homer, David Goliath, The minotaur, Don Quiote, Shakespear and on and on whatever. Superheros will die when we do and not before.
- crichton101, on 05/06/2008, -0/+7That is why you don't have Supes fight a regular human. You have to give him villains he can fight mano e mano. You don't see Batmans main villain being a petty thief who robbed a convenience store. You don't see Iron Man or Captain America taking on carjackers. You have to give Superman a real threat to himself, it just goes to show you how unimaginative and lazy the writers are when they just have him face off against people whose only means to beat him is kryptonite.
- Black6x, on 05/06/2008, -1/+7It's pretty stupid to put out a list like this after Iron Man kicks ass, and everyone and their mom is waiting for Batman. The #1 reason is the dumbest of all:
"It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the day our favorite super heroes fail to turn a profit at the box-office is the day the sun will set on the current trend that we're enjoying at this moment in time."
Between the first Batman and Batman Begins, the movies got worse and worse. Buried. - TheRealToma, on 05/06/2008, -2/+7I wish there were a action figurine of Emo dancing Spiderman.
Edit: *Will it blend?* - CynicSight, on 05/06/2008, -0/+5I disagree that time will be a factor in diminishing of superhero movies because once they do run out of superheroes to turn into silver screen stars after continuous sequels, they will most likely just reboot them with a remake... A lot like they did with Batman and now with the new Hulk film that's coming up. Superhero movies, I have a feeling whether you like them or not, will be around for a lot longer then most people think.
- bagboyrebel, on 05/06/2008, -0/+5what do you mean no conflict? there's conflict from the start.
- Harabeck, on 05/06/2008, -0/+5At least he had some moral dilemas.
- amanilaenvelope, on 05/06/2008, -0/+5get out.
- rompolompo, on 05/06/2008, -0/+5Bad scripts?
- MasterThief117, on 05/06/2008, -1/+6They forgot one. That is a top ten list strung out on three pages.
- carbonetc, on 05/06/2008, -1/+6I predict "Ant Man" is the beginning of the end.
- ZenMojo, on 05/06/2008, -0/+4What bubble? Comic book movies haven't been getting made much until recently, but comic book movies have been summer blockbuster giants since the 70's. This article's kind of retarded for one reason: it implies that no movies were made until the year 2000. Forget Superman I and II, forget Batman and Batman Returns. As long as good movies are being made by good directors, it really doesn't matter what the property is.
- HouseofEl, on 05/06/2008, -0/+4This is all under the impression that the quality falls as well. The reason superhero films were not popular was not just because they were crap, but they also looked like *****. With digital effects, a lot more of the fantastical can now be real on film. In the end it was about lacking tools to present these characters in a realistic manner. Filmmakers don't really have that problem now. The only thing slowing them down is the cost of these effects. Yes a good writer and director are needed to tell a great story. But, there isn't really a shortage on those people right now. The corporate machine holds them up as well. But I think Marvel has crushed that now. Marvel made Iron Man all on their own. I think these films haven't even started to ramp up. They're going to get better.
- Halfling64, on 05/06/2008, -0/+4#1: Uwe Boll.
- Akaji, on 05/06/2008, -4/+8It's Superman... by definition, it sucks, unless it completely rewrites the franchise. You always have the stereotypical villain with the stereotypical plot to blow up/take over the world that could be solved by Superman doing something really simple like an uppercut throw the villain's face, but no, he has to be a good guy. In the end, the villain gets some Kryptonite (seriously, dumbest idea ever - Superman can't be stopped by a nuke, but a hobo with a rock can render him completely immobile), Superman almost dies, but amazingly manages to escape and thwart the villain's plan.
Add some crap about a damsel in distress.
Stir.
????
Profit? - StevesJobs, on 05/06/2008, -0/+4buried for forgetting kryptonite
- jgtg32a, on 05/06/2008, -0/+3Thats a BS rule that didn't exist until click ads were prevalent.
- ZenMojo, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2Exactly. Because we all know Superhero movies weren't popular at all in the 70's, 80's, and 90's so this is just a fad.
/sarcasm - danwallace, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2Remember the one where Shakespeare fought Killer Croc?
- jonshipman, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2SM3 sucked because of Venom and Sandman. pick one or the other! >:(
- ZenMojo, on 05/06/2008, -1/+3I'm sorry, but Raimi gets a goddamn mulligan on Spider-Man 3 after kicking the ***** out of audiences with 1 and 2 and making them two of the most successful and best reviewed movies of all time. Remember what happened to Batman after Burton left ... you got Joel Schumacher. If you give me another Schumacher-esque superhero movie, I will end you.
- TROY7, on 05/06/2008, -1/+3Amen. Put it on one.
- jivatmanx, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2then bury your fapper
- inactive, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2Hollywood doesn't like heros unless they have feet of clay.
- coldfusion1970, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2Have you never seen a superhero "origin" movie before?
They have to spend time setting-up the hero for the non-comicbook geeks (eg. the rest of the world).
Then the second movie is able to go "balls out". - KingGorilla, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2Samurai Jack!!!
- ElCazador, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2It's Namor, The Sub-Mariner.
- ZenMojo, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2Time my ass. Every ten years on schedule (AT MINIMUM) you'll have a Superhero movie dominating the box office.
1978 and 1980 = Superman I and II
1989 and 1992 = Batman and Batman Returns
2000 and 2003 = Xmen and Xmen 2
Throw in Spider-Man and Iron Man to round it out and you've got a pretty good streak of successful superhero movies. It's just that studios haven't ever devoted much effort to securing the properties in the first place. - coldfusion1970, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2The bubble which was nearly burst after Superman IV, Elektra and Batman & Robin.
All films which were panned and could have put tinsel town off the spandex set. - HaloZero, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2Captain America is a sure? I think he's a maybe only for the fact that his concept is bit corny. He's decent when you pair him with other characters but on his own (Or without Winter Soldier) he's kinda.... lame.
- replikhant, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2As long as it is not a sequel, we will take the reboot.
- dnields, on 05/06/2008, -1/+3"people won't go to see bad movies"
I wouldn't be too sure of that. 90% of what gets released is bad... yet, people go see it anyway. - inactive, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2Both Batman and Robin and Superman Returns relied heavily on cheese. In my personal opinion, though, Superman Returns made much better use of the cheese factor than did Batman and Robin. It was cheesy, but it was cheesy in an enjoyable "made you feel like a kid again" kind of way. With Batman and Robin, on the other hand, it was just plain embarrassing to watch.
- RetlawST, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2::praying Ant Man doesn't make it into a SHIELD movie::
- JackSrenton, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1not to mention that he says "n 20 years, will the likes of Iron Man, Spider-Man, Hulk, Batman and X-Men be sitting atop the box-office?" which is most likely what Batman is going to be doing this summer. I mean, 19 years, but still.
- inactive, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Ice Cube is a great actor I love his films
- Nemoso, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1"Think about it for a second. In 20 years, will the likes of Iron Man, Spider-Man, Hulk, Batman and X-Men be sitting atop the box-office?"
The first Batman movie (the Michael Keaton one, not Adam West) was released in 1989. 19 years later, The Dark Knight is set to be one of the biggest releases of the year. So if he's asking whether or not comic-based movies will stand the test of time, I'm going to side with history here and say yes, they will. - JackSrenton, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1ok :-D
bet you do though. -
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