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- rugger, on 10/18/2007, -2/+33And with a 53 city 58 highway mpg the lowly 1989 Geo Metro gets better gas mileage than any vehicle on that list
- DeskFlyer, on 10/18/2007, -2/+18What about the '08 VW Jetta Sportswagon Diesel (40/60)? http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/08/diesel-vw-jetta ...
- bluenova, on 10/18/2007, -2/+16Seems to me this list is just about the North American market, as it just doesn't seem right, no Opels, no VW's.
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/18/2007, -0/+14And you know what that's a goddamn shame that it's been almost 20 years and we still don't have a better gas sipping car than that
- rbdl, on 10/18/2007, -0/+10fuel efficiency doesn't mean clean, it means fuel efficiency.
- kipeloff, on 10/18/2007, -0/+8Yes, agree that this list is for Northern American market, European market has more fuel economy cars, that can be more efficient. As well it is not very easy to meet Yaris or similar car in US (IMHO).
- FireStarterBob, on 10/18/2007, -0/+7lack of diesel cars... also, my civic ex gets 30 mpg city/40 mpg highway but only the hybrid made it
- popabawa, on 10/18/2007, -0/+7Do the US car manufactures deliberately make fuel inefficient cars? On a recent trip to the US I was amazed to see cars advertised on TV as doing "28 MPG" as if it's some kind of wonderful breakthrough in fuel efficiency.
I can easily do 50+ MPG in my diesel Renault Megane and that's not even driving very carefully. Why the hell are US cars so inefficient? - anti-net, on 10/18/2007, -0/+7No - Poor fuel makes it dirty. Look up the VW Polo Bluemotion. Its a small city car that procedures so little CO2 that its excepted from Road Tax in the UK. Not even the Prius or any of the hybrids procedure that little CO2
- inactive, on 10/18/2007, -4/+10My '98 Corolla gets better highway mileage than all but the Prius... hybrid MPG really isn't that impressive for some reason.
- nonggoo, on 10/18/2007, -2/+8I drive a 2007 Yaris LB Manual. I'm getting 41 mpg city/hwy combined.
- thepromise, on 10/18/2007, -2/+8This list makes me sick. Stop making hybrids to increase horsepower. If computers were cars, we would all be so excited to be getting a "GUI" now.
- j519638, on 10/18/2007, -0/+5This article does not the mention the VW Jetta TDI, which is by far one of the most fuel efficient cars on the market. It is more efficient than both a Civic Hybrid and Prius, and that is with real world experience, not EPA retardness, they get about 5 mpg less than my TDI going about 80. While this might not seem like a lot I guarantee that my Jetta will out last both of those cars, my aunts Prius is already developing engine related problems, gasoline side not electric, at a little over 80,000, while my Jetta is going strong at over 90,000.
- airiox, on 10/18/2007, -3/+7spoon fed idiot
- j519638, on 10/18/2007, -0/+4Actually there is a more fuel efficient car that even a hybrid can't top without shorting the battery life so much that it becomes economically unreasonable, its called the VW Lupo, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Lupo. Sure beats the hell out of Hybrid. I would also like to point out that the diesel Jetta's get the same amount of millage if not better than the hybrids. My sister drives a Honda Civic Hybrid and my aunt a Prius, and when i drive those cars i get on average 5 miles per gallon less on the freeway.
- azpaz, on 10/18/2007, -1/+5This is a load of *****! Where's the Volkswagen Golf TDI?! It has a combined figure of 53.3mpg and from my father's experiences it's not far off that value in practice.
And these US values for mpg's seem way too low, way lower than their UK equivalents. They must take into account the extra energy needed to shift an average American family when conducting their tests.. - Refrag, on 10/18/2007, -0/+4FTA: "Highest Fuel Economy Models by Vehicle Class for 2008 Model Year
Class Model City/Highway MPG
Two Seater Audi TT Roadster (2 liter engine,auto) 22/29"
The Lotus Elise gets better gas mileage than that. - digghasnoethics, on 10/18/2007, -1/+5Its pretty much insane that they can have a most efficient list that doesn't have EVERY vehicle north of 50mpg. Either the tests are totally screwed, or they purposely didn't test the best performers.
The minimum for my next vehicle will be 50mpg. I won't buy anything with less. I still expect to have a wide selection to pick from - probably something like a VW Golf TDi - 56.4mpg - westway2world, on 10/18/2007, -0/+4How about the SMART car? What mileage does that thing get?
- airiox, on 10/18/2007, -1/+4Bullcrap list you got there, sounds like someone paid to get on the list to me.
- SugeKnight, on 10/18/2007, -0/+3Dugg Down, Numbers are wrong and cars are mislabeled. When was the last time you thought a Bentley Azure is a compact car!
http://www.forbesautos.com/gallery/2006/bentley/az ... - betacmag4u, on 10/18/2007, -1/+4Not to rain on your parade but arent they getting rid of the TDI system and going to some like "common rail injection"? Also although I LOVE Volkswagens their overall reliability records suck ....see the latest 2007 Consumer Reports Auto issue. That said I still might be getting another Passat ...I love Turbo cars :)
- sdcarter, on 10/18/2007, -0/+3The European version of the car, which is manufactured by Smart, a subsidiary of Mercedes-Benz, is rated to get 60 miles per gallon. However, Campbell said that after being modified by G&K Automotive Conversions to meet the tougher U.S. emissions standards, the car received an initial Environmental Protection Agency rating of just 37 mpg. He said the company's internal tests indicate that the modified car should get at least 50 mpg, so it has asked the EPA for a retest.
http://www.wired.com/cars/futuretransport/news/200 ... - NeonElixir, on 10/18/2007, -1/+4Well, yeah, the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) is a department of the US government.
- 0260, on 10/18/2007, -1/+4wow and i would never want to be seen in any of those.
- sdcarter, on 10/18/2007, -1/+4Wait a minute, I get an average of about 32-35mpg in my `06 Civic Ex. Granted it's not an `08; but nothing has changed! In fact, I get such good fuel efficiency I didn't see the point in dropping the extra money on a Hybrid. Plus, if I remember correctly, I read a report in one of my car mags saying that it's actually less economically wise to buy the Civic Hybrid because the difference in fuel efficiency is so little that you'll NEVER see the benefits and NEVER recoup the extra money you've spent.
I'd bury this as inaccurate if I hadn't already dugg it. - rkzda, on 10/18/2007, -0/+3Like you own an Italian supercar as your DD.
- fiftycents, on 10/18/2007, -4/+7I'm going to call ***** on all of this one.
1. Hybrids are not reliable in their mileage.
2. There are cars from the 70's and 80's that get mileage in the 50's and higher. Higher mileage does NOT need new technology, therefore does NOT need to be expensive.
3. Hybrids are expensive as hell, and NOT eco-friendly. You don't save money, and you don't help the environment. Do some research on it before you buy a hybrid, PLEASE.
4. There are even '08 models that have higher mileage than these. Diesel Jetta's.
Popular mechanics predicted that the Toyota Prius would get higher mileage if you took the electric motor out. Its too damn heavy and it doesn't help out. All it does is makes it cost more and you feel like you're helping the environment because Toyota tells you so. - Rageous, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2Bring the Mini Cooper D to the States!
Tough to beat 72.4 MPG with regenerative braking. - shellacked, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2Bah, diesel cars should have made the list
I've been driving a Volkswagen Golf Turbo Diesel for 5 years and I average 40 mpg city / 50 mpg highway, about the same as a prius. The car is reliable, easy to maintain (oil change every 10k, oil and filters every 20k, timing belt every 100k, that's it), and diesel engines run *forever* (300k+, some up to 700k if you take care of 'em). On its 12 gallon tank I routinely get 550-600 miles commuting to work (city and highway, 75 mph on the highway). If you top off the tank and drive conservatively, you can get 1000 miles on a tank.
Plus, it can run biodiesel if you can find it.
Honda is coming out with a new diesel car soon too which should be awesome! - MrMongoose, on 10/18/2007, -1/+3They're not directly comparable. The EPA has revised its testing and the numbers have dropped markedly this year, even for cars with no changes. Also, I doubt the Metro would pass today's vehicle safety standards.
Edit: Turns out the EPA has retro-calculated their estimates from 1985 on. The 1989 Metro comes in at 43 city and 51 highway, 46 combined. Same combined score as the Prius. - westway2world, on 10/18/2007, -1/+3I get about 23.5 MPG on the highway in my Jeep Grand Cherokee and that's with the smaller 6 cylinder engine...To get that fuel economy I drive at about 50 MPH... If the car wasn't a gift I would be driving a diesel for sure.
- sdcarter, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2I still wish I'd gotten one as my daily driver. Unfortunately, "Hey baby, wanna ride in my fuel efficient 3cyl. Geo Metro" doesn't have the success rate of "Hey baby, wanna ride in my ridiculously expensive and environmentally unfriendly Italian supercar."
- thredden, on 10/18/2007, -1/+3my '97 ford escort lx wagon gets like 44 on the highway. bought the thing for $500. Its last me over a year so far.
- thredden, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2man i been looking for one of those.
- sladek, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2apparently my 95 Citroen ZX gets 45/60 with a 1.9 turbo diesel
- swordedge, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2http://www.fueleconomy.gov/
27 City
30 Combined
34 Highway
for your car.
As for Hybrid MPG, the new test probably does NOT drive the car the way that is most efficient. It does drive it the way most people that throw away the manual do. If you buy a Hybrid, you MUST retrain yourself to get max use out of it. - alibruce, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2My VW Passat TDI 130 easily gets 55mpg on a long journey.
- GamerzCorner, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2that's like comparing my 150cc scooter i use for getting around the city to a hummer...apples and oranges like seandaly said the thing has a 3 cylinder engine my buddy in high school drove one of those death traps around and he could barley get over bridges let alone if you have passengers in the car!
I'll stick to my Toyota corolla (manual) ;) you keep you Geo and your extra 10 miles per gallon (and your 54HP) - Joeytg, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2I had a 94 Honda Civic VX that averaged 45mpg and rue the day I sold it. Top highway miles I got was 52.8 Mpg and that was great. How could they have that got that kind of mileage 13 years ago and be touting the same thing today? It was an nice car with good pickup and speed. Cost me $25 a tire to replace and held 3.5 quarts to change the oil. If one was available today I would snap it up in a heartbeat.
- misfit815, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2My '98 VW Jetta TDI that's approaching 200k on the odometer gets 43mpg, no matter how 'digital' I drive it.
- swordedge, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2The only hybrid on the list that makes any sense to me is the Ford Escape. Taking a high mileage car and making a higher mileage care makes way less sense then taking a low mileage care and turning it in to a high mileage car. The escape for 2008 goes from 20 to 32 mpg combined, about a 50% improvement.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/2008seleeng2f.jsp?y ...
Due to the hybrid being a 4 banger with a ~90HP electric motor, I compare it to the six, not the four as I think it will out run the four. - seandaly, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2The Metro had this problem of not being able to get out of its own way due to a 54HP 3 cylinder engine better suited cutting grass (the XFi was worse, detuned to 49 HP). I borrowed my sister's once and almost had a heart attack trying to get onto the highway. You can't compare driving a Prius to a Metro.
- z987k, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2Funny how a diesel gets as good or better economy than the hybrids. Bio-diesel is even green. And even regular diesel isn't that bad, the sulfur emissions are a little high, but it's cleaner on everything else.
- Repiv, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1Too bad the only car on that list that is even close to looking half decent is the civic hybrid. Not to mention they are all slow as a turtle.
- dupeduperson, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1On a related note, here is my online commuting speed calculator. It determines your optimal (lowest cost) commuting speed.
http://www.phys.selu.edu/allain/efficiency/page4/p ... - KPLL, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1Lack of a convertible option is the only thing keeping me from considering a Prius.
- earlycj5, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1Just because it's common rail injection system doesn't mean it's not a TDI, it's still a Turbo charged Direct Injected engine.
Don't see how this is getting dugg up being inaccurate and all.
Reliability? We've had our '01 Golf since '01, 100K on it and no show stoppers, been very reliable for us. My '99 TDI Golf was the same way. - whoknu, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1Just for the record. My 5-spd Honda Insight averages 62 mpg. A friend's automatic gets 56 mpg. Those numbers are very typical for the Insight. I do not know why they stopped making them last year. And it's really fun to drive.
- DaleoftheUK, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1Nothing beats the flintstones car on eco friendliness.
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