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- gnomead, on 10/28/2008, -0/+98It's a form of motor racing that also has right turns.
- gaapgod, on 10/28/2008, -1/+73I completely agree with Ferrari. F1 is not NASCAR. The company that is most successful at R&D should win (if they have decent drivers). This is ridiculous.
- dannybull, on 10/28/2008, -0/+71I really hate Max Mosley. What does he have to do to get fired, get caught paying for hookers to beat him S&M style in Nazi uniforms? Oh wait...
- poploserdigg, on 10/28/2008, -2/+58max mosley is determined to make F1 a spec series, which goes against the entire history and purpose of F1. he sucks worse than Digg'ers.
- IceDive, on 10/28/2008, -2/+49 If they decide to use standard engines people may as well just watch the A1.
- casey3353, on 10/28/2008, -0/+45There should be a Formula 1 event every 4 years or so where there's no limitations on the engine designs, and the teams can have go nuts designing the most ass-kicking cars around. F1 has always been the breeding ground of cutting edge engineering
- thesandbender, on 10/28/2008, -1/+37This is ridiculous. The entire purpose of F1, LeMans, GTR, etc. is push the envelope of driving and automobile engineering. They make our cars more efficient (the less you have to pit during a race, the better your time)... they make our cars better handling and they sure as heck make our cars safer.
My stock 3.2 liter engine puts out as much horsepower as my dad's Chevy four barrel 454 (~7.4L) and more torque. Even my dad, whose all about American muscle cars, confessed he was impressed with the engine and the car ('01 BMW S54).
A Veyron comes in at 8.0L, A Shelby Aero is 6.35L. A Koenigsegg CCX is 4.7L. They are some of the fastest street legal cars on the planet and will leave anything more than 10-15 years old in the dust.
This is directly attributable to F1.
T - Surferess, on 10/28/2008, -9/+45Oh those Italians! They always get so emotional!
- VEGETAble, on 10/28/2008, -1/+32Mosely is an idiot, if ferrari leaves, f1 is finished.
- Zalyster, on 10/28/2008, -1/+29Vaffanculo! F1 è la mia vita, e che sono una minaccia per essa! Mangiare la pasta e il fumo di erbaccia quotidiana!
*accompanied by fist shaking* - Evolutuon, on 10/28/2008, -0/+24"***** you! F1 is my life, and that is a threat to it! Eating pasta and smoke weed everyday!"
lol - cheez124, on 10/28/2008, -2/+22excuse me? standard engines? what is this nascar? F1 will become a eurotrash event, except all the cars will go to the left.
- erikerikerik, on 10/28/2008, -0/+18Cutting edge was the late 80's.
BMW had a little 1.5L turbo engine that in qualifying trim would run at 1,300 BHP!
And a video link for good measure.
http://www.automotivehelper.com/topic403437.htm - inactive, on 10/28/2008, -4/+20Good. F1 is becoming more and more pussified everyday. All this cost-saving and green ***** is just destroying the sport.
- cyrix, on 10/28/2008, -1/+16How dare you try to compare NASCAR to F1.
- inactive, on 10/28/2008, -5/+20Way to ruin a legendary sport. Standard engines for the lose!
- keithloughnane, on 10/28/2008, -4/+18Let them build whatever they want, jet cars, nitro powered cars. It'd be cool. This getting disqualified because your car has a small 10mm difference to the other is *****.
- inactive, on 10/28/2008, -1/+14carburetors and straight rear axles are next, and drivers named Bubba Shoemaker
- borez, on 10/28/2008, -3/+1490% of a Ferrari (F1) car is it's engine, why would they even bother to race with a spec engine, what would be the point. IMO as a fan of F1 since the early eighties, the sport has become too boring and too safe to be enjoyable any more. The pinnacle for me was watching Senna qualify at Monaco in 1991, totally on the edge, totally dangerous and milliseconds from death if he'd of ***** up ( which, of course, is how he eventually lost his life) Now that was what F1 was ALL about:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xgktruZUDgs&feature= ... - chillypacman, on 10/28/2008, -1/+10I don't think that's fair grounds to fire him on. He has crazy fetishes and the cash to realize those crazy fetishes.
So meh really, it's not like he killed anyone. - Azerael, on 10/28/2008, -0/+9Or they could, you know, replace the batteries.
- Vosona, on 10/28/2008, -0/+8Maybe you just suck at being Italian.
- eloestea, on 10/28/2008, -2/+10Why the ***** would F1 want to be like NASCAR? Its nots Ferraris or any other Manufactures fault if the losing cars cant keep up.
- pdileepa, on 10/28/2008, -0/+8Mad Max should be stopped! Right now!
- Juaquin, on 10/28/2008, -0/+8Not all the teams could afford "insanely extreme specs", and also, most of these teams don't want to share their proprietary performance secrets with other companies (as the other companies might trickle it down to their regular models).
- Codename, on 10/28/2008, -2/+10I think F1 should start racing Smart Cars.
- aralls, on 10/28/2008, -2/+9WTF is "Digg'ers" supposed to mean?
- aralls, on 10/28/2008, -0/+7I've seen people incorrectly add apostrophe "s" to the end of a word to make it plural, but I've never seen apostrophe "ers"
- twotimesthru, on 10/28/2008, -0/+7I agree. They ARE making some good changes next year that will add on to this year's season that has been very competitive amongst many teams... But, I don't believe they should standardize engines. F1 is a the full range of auto-racing from mechanical skill to driver skill. I do believe though, there should be budget caps. That way BMW-Sauber or Honda have the same resources that Ferrari and McClaren do... they'll still have to choose HOW to spend their money to maximize performance, but at least they won't have a standard engine that would take that ability to fine-tune their cars away from them.
- Ragashingo, on 10/28/2008, -1/+8I'd love to see what they'd say about this on Top Gear.
- SublimeParadigm, on 10/28/2008, -0/+6Agreed... But that is hilarious
http://www.gambling911.com/Formula-One-Motor-Racin ... - YodaJones, on 10/28/2008, -0/+6The F1 commission has been ***** F1 for years. It's time to start a new championship or fire all the ***** on the board.
- MakanGuru, on 10/28/2008, -0/+6would be hilarious is if Ferrari quits F1 and becomes the full time supplier for A1 cars
- IvesMozart, on 10/28/2008, -2/+8Wanna slash the costs? Fire those old farts from FIA and hire Jeremy Clarkson. He will kick ass
- matt.rubin, on 10/28/2008, -0/+6This is *****. F1 is about having car manufacturers make cars to the human limits and compete against each other. F1 is about taking the best technology in the world and seeing how far you can push it. when they got limited to V-8s I was pissed. but i think 2010 they can go back to v-10s or something. But now they need to be green. FIA needs to take the dildo out of their ass and let the sport be. The cars are more safe then they ever have. There has not been a fatal accident in a long time. FIA, ***** you
- Carlsen, on 10/28/2008, -0/+5Thank you.
- stotty, on 10/28/2008, -0/+5Oh how I wish I could digg you more than once gnomead. Brilliant rhetoric!
- swgbex, on 10/28/2008, -1/+6Stop changing the damn spec every year and we might see costs come down. Having to redesign the car to fit the new specs is probably costing the smaller teams too much to be competative. Take away the rule that says you cannot have a spare car fully built, everyone takes enough parts to build one on site anyway, and the people who suffer are the engineers who then must stay overnight to build a new car. Relative speeds will come back together once all teams can focus on R&D instead of complying with the changing rules. The act of cost saving is costing too much...
- coreyb, on 10/28/2008, -2/+7Exactly, which is why they really should open it up to alt energies such as electric. Maybe then we would get the advances that we are all expecting.
- morcheeba, on 10/28/2008, -0/+5If this happened, then why would a manufacturer want to compete anymore? Body styles and aerodynamics carry over little to the production cars; standardized engines would mean that wouldn't carry over, either. The only thing left is handling, and I'm not sure if that would be enough to justify participation.
- KMartSheriff, on 10/28/2008, -0/+5I was going to attempt to say something clever but gnomead's comment cannot be beat.
- bluepass, on 10/28/2008, -0/+4There are no 24-hour F1 races...
The most they'll be on track is 2 hours and that is if the weather forces the race to be suspended. - anarchyinthekr, on 10/28/2008, -7/+11Mama Mia! Standard Engines! Pasta! Wine! Mafia! Garlic Bread!
- mousky, on 10/28/2008, -0/+4On paper that may work, but the race teams will just figure a way around it.
- noisymime, on 10/28/2008, -0/+4I fully agree that this was the sweetest time for F1, but things were very different then.
Yes those engines produced 1300hp for qualifying, but remember that they were allowed to use a seperate engine for qualifying and for the race. In addition, it was very common for one of those qualifying engines to not even survive the 5-10 laps required for qualifying. - Chirp08, on 10/28/2008, -0/+4The s54 makes 269ft/lbs stock. The lowest rated 454 (in a car) made 390ft/lbs.
Don't make ***** up. - VEGETAble, on 10/28/2008, -0/+4not 90%, or force india wouldn't be dead last every race.
- Tyrghast, on 10/28/2008, -3/+6If everything becomes standardized, doesn't that make it NASCAR? Part of what makes F1 interesting is seeing how far they can push cars.
- thanakar, on 10/28/2008, -0/+3Sounds like a fun time to me!
- Infidelcastr0, on 10/28/2008, -0/+3***** that *****. Ferrari shouldn't be punished for having the best engineers.
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