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- nsjoker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31German engineering in ze haus?
- tikitechi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29I hope this gets some attention, any good press modern diesels get is good for the US
- codyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Yeah Hybrids are nothing but social statements...
I am glad to see the return to diesels to America... yes they burn oil but they get that great torquey feel with great mileage and now thanks to new innovations they are also very clean...
Plus you can actually work on a diesel yourself whereas a hybrid comes stealership time.... - bmxerxxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Agreed, people don't understand how monumental this is.
- shartman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Got to LOVE Audi. America needs to get their head out of their ass and understand how much it would benefit us to use more diesels. I am definitely looking forward to the new diesels from VW.
- jtablerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11unfortunately, we don't watch real racing (i.e. LeMans, ALMS, etc.) so the ppl who need to hear this most......wont...
- DeepPan77, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10The R10 won Le Mans last year :-)
- uirye, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13I think the lower weight from the smaller gas tank is key to the victory.
- fastsix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Audi has to nothing to prove at Le Mans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans_winners - antiundersteer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Uhh, that makes no sense what so ever. The French are going to take the fight right to Audi with the Peugeot 908. The Pug is another diesel powered car, a twin turbo 5.5 liter v12, closed cockpit (coupe).
Scroll down most of the way on this page for pics and info.
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsjan07.html
That and Renault doesnt have an active sportscar program. Formula 1 is a different story. - skottles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Well this is nothing new for Audi. They dominate almost every style of race entered (le mans, touring car, rally, etc). Even after stricter rules enforced because of their dominance, they still usually pull it off. Great drivers/team and great technology and cars.
- FattyCorpuscle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8They've won 6 out of the last 7 times, most recently w/ the R10. I doubt they fear their Euro competition any more than their US competition.
- 13B1303, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Diesel is almost 15% more energy dense then gasoline. Not sure about the race fuel the other cars were running though. This weight reduction and minimized refueling is a huge advantage in endurance races like this.
- AeonTorpor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@30trip
I'm American. Most Americans I see that watch any racing event watch ***** Nascar. Their cars are carburated. F1, LeMans, et. al. are much more than going in circles over and over. And beyond that, they're not simply carburated big blocks. They try out new technology on them, pushing forward the auto industry. But Nascar adds nothing, it just makes dumb ass people who are susceptible to dumb ideas think "carburated is better than fuel injected." - bobpaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7They were winning before they shrunk the gas tank. The 10% reduction was supposed to make them take approx as many pit stops as all of the gassers. But you're right, that penalty actually works to their advantage in other ways.
- Zordok, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Well, they placed 1st and 3rd last year (running two cars).
- risc427, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I'm sure they'll do fine. They won it last year with this car and the 2 years before that with the R8.
- jodokast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6KACHOWW!
- risc427, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I'm surprised this car is just now getting attention. They won the 24-hour of Le Mans with it last year. Lead > Follow
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10The French tried banning diesel fuels at Le Mans cause the Audi R10 was whooping Renaults ass up and down the racetrack.
- qjkwtf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Audi is currently mulling plans to drop out of the ALMS altogether because of the arbitrary restrictions being placed on the team. They are so dominant the only way to even let the competition keep us is by these arbitrary restrictions.
- tomisina, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Is there a penalty of tank size for all diesels in LeMans? It would be absurd if the organization were discriminating against a more fuel efficient technology...
- voisine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The final lap was pretty damn exciting. I haven't seen a race finish like that since the '05 opening round of MotoGP at Jerez.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OL2HF-sFLnc - hydrosnowman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Let's see how they do against the euros at 24 hours at Le Mans this summer. The Audi's don't have much competition from the US teams.
- bobpaul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@codyman
They shouldn't burn oil, not if they're maintained. You shouldn't be burning more than about a half quart every 10,000 miles, at which point you need to change it anyway. To compare, my gasser, goes through about that much every 3,000 miles.
Modern TDIs like VW sells run a leaner mixture than older diesels. They'll only make a puff of black if you really lay on the accelerator. - bobpaul, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Oops.. wrong reply... This is why digg needs a threading system.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The R10 is so heavy that the ACO raised the minimum weight for the class so that other cars didn't have an advantage over it.
The R10 exists because of the class regs, and nothing else. If you didn't have restrictions on the gas cars, no Diesel could compete on engine weight or size for a given power. - Harvey_Mushman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Audi may take their fancy technology elsewhere because of that small fuel tank and weight penalty. They are spending a ton to develop top-notch, LMP1 machines that are hobbled by the ALMS rules. ALMS is trying to manufacture a winner from the LMP2 Acuras and Porsches. Why have the LMP1 class at all then? I wouldn't blame Audi if they took the R10 back to Europe for good.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/21/audi-considering-dropping-out-of-alms/ - martynda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I saw this car at Sebring last year. Absolutely stunning piece of machinery. The most distinct and amazing thing about it is the sound. I was near the pit exit when it launched to race speed. All you hear is a high pitched whine and the car is gone before you realize what even happened. One of the coolest things I've ever seen and heard.
- 13B1303, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Anyone remember the 787B??? they like innovation and competition, just not that much.
- Phyltre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Oh, snap, you just dropped it like it's hoht!
- essjay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@30trip .. No one is saying its the answer, but as far as solutions go, its the best we've got. Consider this, my VW derived TDi (its a Seat actually, with a VW engine) gets around 50miles to the gallon (uk gallon). Compare this with a decent petrol which gets 40ish and the Prius which gets about 45. Now ignore all the adverts, I actually get 50+mpg where a prius, doing the trip I do would get closer to 30, probably less as its extra-urban. Electrics aren't there yet and hydrogen is a pipe dream (a very wise man one said that five miracles need to happen before hydrogen becomes a viable fuel source). I'd recommend doing your homework.
- antiundersteer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The smaller fuel tank on this car is to try and balance the difference between diesel and petrol motors. Per unit of fuel, diesel contains more energy than petrol.
In sportscar racing you can have a variety of engines to choose from, the rules that the ACO (the French governing body of Le Mans) makes to try and make all the engines more or less equal in potential. - bufmike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I wanted to get a diesel last year, but new "the nanny state" york won't let you get a new diesel. Got to love our government...
- antiundersteer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The R10 is one of the coolest racecars I have seen in a while. Its also super quiet, mostly just some turbo noises.
While at Sebring for the night practice on Thursday I saw one of the sister cars get loose and nail a wall hard.
If you ever get a chance to check out the 12 hours of Sebring in person, its well worth it.
This was my fifth year attending.
Audi Diesel R10 Wreck Pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/antiundersteer/sets/72157600002452321/
Ferrari F430 on Fire: My friend was kind enough to submit this here: Please digg it if you like fire.
http://www.digg.com/motorsport/PICTURE_Ferrari_catching_on_fire_during_12_Hours_of_Sebring
All my Sebring Pictures from this year:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/antiundersteer/sets/72157600003026972/ - Dustyb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That was a great race although I prefer the R10, when Acura gets the bugs out of their new car I think it will give the R10 a run for its money, but thats a good thing it will force Audi to innovate and make the R10 better. Since the R10 does better mileage on the race track a 10% smaller gas tank is a huge advantage.
- tikitechi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Get a used one :)
Thats how we do it here in mass
check out www.tdiclub.com - monkeyrun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Soon enough they'll change the rule so that Audi must run on flat tires with their diesel cars.
Anyways it's just more publicity for Audi diesel :) - hydrosnowman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2lol...just wait till the speed channel covers the 24 hours Le Mans race. On a side note McNish is a helluva driver.
- ploop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The same thing happened 25 years ago when they banned the Audi Quattro Coupe from rallying, if memory serves.
- SerifTheRobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would be much more willing to buy a diesel car if there were options that I actually wanted to drive. VW is great, but I have promised myself no more front wheel drive cars. MB makes fine diesel RWDs, but way out of my price range for anything this century.
- BruticusMaximus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It amazes me that they can change the rules mid-season. Especially rules that only effect one team. They did this before to Audi in the 80's when the quattro came out. It was the only all wheel drive cars on the circuit. They were finishing really well in normal races. When it rained, they came in first, second, and third every time. They banned all wheel drive.
- tikitechi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"codyman (and hte idiots digging this up) if you think that diesel fuel is the solution to our energy problems, you are all complete morons"
What are you basing this on? - ploop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought that restriction went away as soon as the new federal diesel fuel regulations came in recently.
- trev0006, on 11/05/2007, -0/+1I belive we will have some serious supercars in the future which will be diesel powered, with Audi leading the pack with a diesel Audi R8. http://www.discountpartcenter.com
- ploop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Diesels also make more torque per liter. Are you suggesting that they should be restricted to smaller engines too? Come on.
- dakboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Same thing happened to Dodge in NASCAR in the early '70s. Ford & Chevy couldn't keep up, so they got the rules changed to the point where Dodge only had 2 choices - build a new engine from scratch, or get out of NASCAR completely.
- Lobstah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nice job again Audi. They are bringing a diesel based on the R10's to the states in their Q7 SUV. A big ol V12 with 500hp and 700+ tq
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They can change the rules mid-season and have recently. But they did not in this case.. The 81L tank is new for this whole season. This was the first race of the season.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Renault doesn't race at Le Mans.
Your foolishness is underscored by how pro-alternate fuel the ACO (Le Mans) is.
They've had biodiesel and Diesel cars in the lineup for years now. -
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