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- tonaros, on 01/15/2008, -9/+308"Turn your $60 router into a brick if you don't RTFM, noob"
- plizard, on 01/15/2008, -28/+234wtf dd-wrt is where it's at
- bacchus101, on 01/15/2008, -11/+169You say Tomato, I say OpenWRT.
- TH3W1R3D, on 01/15/2008, -4/+93Totally worth it just for the wifi boosting. Careful not too boost too much though and toast your router.
- Coffeedemon, on 01/15/2008, -14/+98Tomato?
Good if you're transferring sauce code I guess. - snotrokit, on 01/15/2008, -7/+69been running dd-wrt for years. I see no reason to switch
- sroberson, on 01/15/2008, -3/+44dd-wrt is just different from tomato. dd-wrt has different flavors for vpn and voip, which is nice, but I wasn't using that stuff, so I didn't take full advantage of it. The two also have different approaches. dd-wrt lets you throttle your router's specific ports, allowing you to say, for example, that ports 1-3 are full speed while whatever is connect to port 4 will be slow. This is a nice feature, but I don't think it worked for me like I thought. My vonage was unusable when was I was downloading some new linux distro or something.
Tomato, however, offers throttling according to rules. This is much nicer. DNS requests get top priority as does the ip of my vonage router. Everything else gets lower classes, and I do see that this works. When I'm downloading a linux distro torrent, I'm capped at exactly what I've told Tomato to be. I have not since had the Vonage drop out, like I did before. (I'm not claiming I had dd-wrt fully configured correctly. I can only say vonage dropped out when I was using dd-wrt and downloading.)
So, take that for what it's worth. - SanTe, on 01/15/2008, -1/+39If you have a Linksys WRT54G, like lots of people do, don't throw it out just yet:
The WRT54G Revival Guide
http://tinyurl.com/38wuyp (linksysinfo.org)
I bricked my WRT54G on a firmware update once and was able to recover it using this guide. - CLShortFuse, on 01/15/2008, -11/+46"So Which Is Better, Tomato or DD-WRT?"
"DD-WRT has a slightly more robust feature set and a bit more polish in the layout of the admin, but most features that you'll find in DD-WRT that are not in Tomato are features most home users will never use. Both do Quality of Service (in fact, we've already gone step-by-step through how to set up QoS in DD-WRT), though Tomato seems to do it a bit better; both can boost your Wi-Fi signal; and both will transform your router into something much better than it was before you started. At the moment I prefer Tomato for the simplicity of its layout, the excellent bandwidth monitoring tools, and of course, it's attractive charts."
Guess I'm sticking with DD-WRT - Binto, on 01/15/2008, -6/+37im pretty much sold on dd-wrt.
*shrug*
I'll give this one a whirl, just to see if it may benefit me in a way that dd-wrt doesn't. - EtherGnat, on 01/15/2008, -3/+30User: http://www.aol.com
Router: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - 89vision, on 01/16/2008, -0/+24dd-wrt turned my wireless router into a hobby.
***** I need a life. - Dhalgren, on 01/15/2008, -4/+27You forgot the L (WRT54GL)
- neofactor, on 01/15/2008, -2/+22The L is for linux and it is CRITICAL! The cheaper versions are just that.... less memory and less ability to over-write the firmware. You WANT the linux version, the ones with the L.. or get the 1st year REV which is basically the same thing.
- BOFH2, on 01/15/2008, -3/+21bricked one. Considered it a expensive learning experience. On DDwrt's newest firmware flashing for v8 wait 3 minutes insted of 1.
- sorrow, on 01/15/2008, -3/+18Yeah, i hate having the firmware on my router take up all the storage space.... wtf?
- jnadke, on 01/16/2008, -0/+14Use X-WRT!
OpenWRT with a GUI. You get the best of both.
OpenWRT >> DD-WRT. DD-WRT makers violate the GPL.
OpenWRT has addable packages, giving many, many more features than DD-WRT. You can even run a NAS, FTP or Web server! - Tenoq, on 01/16/2008, -2/+16Unless you have a good understanding of how the wireless & antennae actually work, boosting your Wi-Fi signal should be the last thing you do. Often it doesn't help, makes it worse and/or pisses off your neighbour. Oh, and you might also be breaking the law, depending on local authorities.
- MWeather, on 01/15/2008, -5/+18I feel sorry for kids who grew up without Mr. Wizzard. They're do clueless when iit comes to basic science.
- flessa, on 01/15/2008, -0/+13Tomato cannot be used if your wrt54g is v5 or newer. So pretty much your wrt54g has to be from a few years ago in order for it to work. dd-wrt works on all the newest hardware.
dd-wrt is my pick. - computergod, on 01/16/2008, -1/+13Just be aware that the although it increases the power output, the signal is much nosier, with lots of fuzz on adjacent frequencies. It you want an awesome router then look into running LEAF on an old laptop. You can get high-powered (300mw) PCMCIA cards that give you much, much more range then hacked wireless routers. You can also put much more applications on it and use it as a web/db/file server.
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ - Dhalgren, on 01/15/2008, -8/+20FTA: "Tomato does almost everything DD-WRT does"
That's where I stop... WTF do I need graphs and charts for on my router? Does Tomato support openvpn? - jhole, on 01/16/2008, -1/+11I wish I hadn't laughed at this.
- Tenoq, on 01/16/2008, -2/+12Should have bought a good router. ;)
- vertigoacid, on 01/16/2008, -3/+13Tomato is a DD-WRT fork.
Personally, I've had much better stability since I switched. YMMV - stoanhart, on 01/16/2008, -1/+11DD-WRT required me to unplug the router every 20 minutes. Yes, I made sure I had the right version. It would work fine for a little while, and then suddenly no WAN. Power cycle and all was well. Also, it never forwarded the ports I told it to.
Tomato's been working smoothly since I installed it. - Dhalgren, on 01/15/2008, -5/+15I've flashed about 5 routers to dd-wrt. I've done my personal one about 5 or 6 times. I've never had a problem. Just follow the instructions on the site and you'll be fine. If you're super paranoid, connect your router and computer to a UPS before you flash it.
- jdfoote2, on 01/15/2008, -2/+11So it works best in Boston?
- sqwidget, on 01/16/2008, -1/+10I bricked one of those trying to do this. Returned it to Future Shop and claimed it didn't work and got my money back. Dishonest, yes, but FS has screwed me over enough times I don't feel too bad about it.
- nick0909, on 01/16/2008, -1/+9That is exactly what I found, I can't get what all the hype is over DD-WRT when tomato just runs and rocks.
- orangefly, on 01/15/2008, -3/+11yeah....if it ain't broke don't fix it....
i have had no problems with dd-wrt yet and it works well with my 300n.... - skipdog172, on 01/15/2008, -3/+11Big fan of dd-wrt here.
- vsaint, on 01/16/2008, -2/+10This man speaks the truth. I boosted the signal and later found it going through my mail.
- superunlikely, on 01/16/2008, -0/+8Everyone that knows how to use it.
- nick0909, on 01/16/2008, -1/+9I guess if you don't care at all about your power bill you could do that.
- gldfshnpcklejar, on 01/15/2008, -8/+15DD-WRT always gave me hell, it had several features that were just plain broken, they were nice at trying to help on their forums but all the help was always wrong. I loaded tomato over it and haven't had a problem since. It works beautifully and it has a simple uncluttered interface.
- sgglynn, on 01/16/2008, -1/+8Hesitating to check them out solely because of the use of "baller!" in your description.
- paulringo, on 01/16/2008, -0/+7Your use of the english language is appalling.
- MWeather, on 01/15/2008, -0/+7WRT54G Version 4 and below use Linux.
- dezertrat, on 01/16/2008, -0/+7look for the wrt54GL
- nick0909, on 01/16/2008, -0/+7I agree with those that say Tomato is much more stable than DD-WRT. I have three of these routers in my house, Tomato is my gateway because it seems to require way less rebooting. I also have a tomato as a wifi bridge, and finally I have a DD-WRT as an openvpn endpoint because it was easier to set up with DD-WRTs VPN version.
- nick0909, on 01/16/2008, -0/+7DD-WRT says it does, but many forum posts have pretty much proven that it actually doesn't do anything. Just because you check the box doesn't mean anything actually happens. Tomato actually does what you tell it to.
- colto, on 01/15/2008, -1/+8It is for the whole router. Most of it applies to both wireless and wired.
- cgruber, on 01/15/2008, -5/+12Tomato is pretty nice, I've been running it for at least 6 months now.
- stoanhart, on 01/16/2008, -1/+8Same experience here. Tomato FTW!
- daliminator, on 01/15/2008, -2/+8Is that you, Mr. Quayle? You use Digg?!
- rufo, on 01/15/2008, -1/+7I had the same problems - sometimes I'd get kicked off my router once every 60 seconds. Switched to Tomato and everything cleared itself up; it's been incredibly reliable. The QOS in Tomato is awesome, too.
- sinembarg0, on 01/16/2008, -0/+6To which I would reply "user friendly QoS."
- tybris, on 01/16/2008, -0/+6No, the WRT54G is the most successful home router in the world.
- augustz, on 01/15/2008, -4/+10Only thing missing is VPN support. It's a real shame, because this feature is advertised even on consumer grade routers these days.
We can always hope! -
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