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- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -4/+102It's not really stealing if you give it back later. I'll send them some of my internets next week, i just really need to use theirs right now.
- clkou, on 10/12/2007, -2/+81"So what are you in for?"
"Me? I killed a family of 5 with my bare hands and a hockey stick. You?"
"Me? I was at Starbucks and used their Internet without paying. So, back off, or I'll cut you!" - aldenhg, on 10/12/2007, -7/+66Isn't this theft? I don't think that people should have to pay to use hotspots, but I'll defend anyone's right to charge for a connection that they are paying for.
EDIT: oriolesfan beat me to it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+60We must stop this meme before it takes over digg like soviet russia and "im in ur cafe stealin ur internets" jokes!
- KungFuJesus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35sorry for comment hijacking, but i figured i'd post a free way to do this without ANY extra hardware.
http://thomer.com/howtos/nstx.html
that tutorial will show you how to route all IP traffic through DNS, which you don't have to pay for to get access to at internet cafe's and airports. - ccanni1028, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27There is already a way to do that, it's called an extension cord. Just plug it into an open outlet on the side of your neighbor's house.
- clkou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26It's not as funny when you explain it :/
- woxidu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27@mraustin
Exactly. I mean, it didn't cost anyone anything to produce/deliver the electricity, right? - oriolesfan, on 10/12/2007, -14/+39congrats gcnaddict, you just earned yourself a spot on my highly-exclusive block list!
edit: for those who missed it, he posted the ***** ATHF logo, then just edited it out like a pansy - Lounger540, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27Title should read "FREE Internet access at ANY Internet Cafe for everyone but you." Pointless.
- baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25if i do this, and get caught, will someone send a steel-file laced cake to the Big House for me?
- mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -11/+31I just read that whole article, getting all pumped and all, only to find that its OSX only.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TELL US WHEN ITS PLATFORM DEPENDENT!!! - oriolesfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19You connect to a for-pay wireless network at a coffee shop or something, then rebroadcast the signal to everyone else for free from your second wireless card. Of course all their traffic is then going through your laptop...
- FriscoTony, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19@dreamlayers: "You can't sniff https."
Scottsdale, AZ
February 2, 2007
Four high school students passed out at a party on Saturday night after an intense session of HTTP sniffing.
"It's way better than glue" said Rafe Farnsworth, one of the four. - bmwboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Can someone please answer this for me, in easy terms, how does this work? The page just didn't explain it well enough for me.
- imnojezus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24"Of course all their traffic is then going through your laptop..."
...which means you can just wait around sipping coffee until someone tries to buy something through your rebroadcast signal, at which point you use a keylogger to collect their credit card data.
Or, at least, I think that's how law enforcement will see it just before they send you to Federal PMITA Prision. - dreamlayers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18You can't sniff https.
- jrapp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14"cool.... but who requires you to pay nowadays? Am I just a spoiled American?"
Starbucks, airports, hotels... in America... - 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21Great, while you criminals are at it you can develop something for stealing electricity as well.
- cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@eatshushi,
Whatever you do for a living, or will do for a living later on in life, I think such efforts should be free. So, I'll be hiring you soon but not paying you. - ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Not really free... you still need initial access to it
- tomi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@insovietrussia: WAP? How are you supposed to protect it with a cell phone's browser? O_o
I honestly hope you mean WPA, or WPA2... - Chaulis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Do you mean clone the MAC address of one of the clients that has paid, by using a rainbow based chipset wireless card that allows you to truly sniff with out being connected to any particular AP? Problem with that being is if they are using it at the same time as you are using it, you end up having collisions slowing the entire network down, and making it very annoying. Or you could simply connect to the network, use arp spoofing, collect a user name and password, and use it to login, with out spoofing the mac of a paying client, making it very easy to use the net at the same time, providing that the pay for service running on the net allows for multiple logins of the same account.
- bigohofn, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17It is theft. Theft of service. *Look it up*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft_of_services - Chordonblue, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Actually, I don't think the site explained what the hell was actually happening AT ALL!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17how to steal internet access
stop trying to cover it up and try to make it sound moral, i don't really care if you do it, just admit that you're in the wrong - oriolesfan, on 10/12/2007, -11/+21Highly illegal but fun nonetheless!
- BGFeltenink, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13No, actually if they download illegally it'll only come back to the ip owner, aka the place that you are getting the signal from. Unless you stay there for days and weeks at a time and announce it clearly to everyone, they'll never know. Stop being such mice. Do you get all hushed and blushy faced when someone talks about smoking marijuana too?
- michaelyurechko, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12"Me? I was at Starbucks and used their Internet without paying. So, back off, or I'll cut you!"
You can shank him with a stir stick. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15gnc, you posted the damn mooninite twice in 3 mins. That's all i will say, I'm not going to engage in this *****-slapping contest.
- JeremyGiberson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9This article isn't about how to get free wifi access. It's actually about how to be a modern day Robin Hood. IE, the hardware/software is for the people who already HAVE access to the wifi network and want to open up the network for free use to others. However it neglects many security issues.
- sputnike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Ok I am all for free internet access everwhere (Google, still waiting for you to plant wireless access points everywhere in the world), but this is just stupid... it doesn't explain how to get free internet access for yourself (but I will later in the post), it explains how to pay for something then give everyone else free internet access... AND they need to route everything through your machine. It's stupid to do it unless you want to give someone pretty much open access to your machine, and it's stupid to connect to someones laptop giving them access to your machine.
How to get free internet access: Go find the best free internet access provider in the world: Linksys.
But seriously, unless this happened on a mass scale, stupid... it's easier just to go halfers on a pp access code with someone and share between you both. - oscarsonthepond, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I can't believe those jerks who go out and buy the equipment, develop the software for the access points, pay for the bandwidth, pay for the physical space, etc. and then they expect ME to pay to access the internet?!?!? The NERVE!!
- BGFeltenink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8And how are they even going to catch you? Stop being sheep and stop being afraid of the jackboots.
- cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Next up, how money should be free. The money hacker's toolkit; ski mask, gloves that don't fit (just in case), and a glock. There, color me a hax0r now.
- BGFeltenink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8If you do this, and get caught, you'll get kicked out and asked not to come back.
- krunk4ever, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Reminds me of that quote: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- kavaliro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Well, I suppose it would depend on the agreement. For those who didn't RFTA, buried beneath the nifty name, all this is, is an extra wifi card and some software to turn your mac into a router, routing traffic between the unwashed masses and the wifi you paid for. As long as you didn't agree not to re-share the internet connection, it's probably not illegal.
- anagoge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7A file? Pft. Get some tattoos.
- dicknuts, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Mac only... why not put that in the headline?
- mylrea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I doubt that anyone working at an airport or at a starbucks knows how the hell the wireless internet works - or is monitoring the traffic. My bet is you are safe; those hot-spots are set up by a provider like T Mobile, maintained remotely, and rake in the cash costing upwards of ten dollars a day (which is especially shady considering that most people only want to buy a cup of joe and check their e-mail for an hour). I say if you steal the internet, the internet companies will just have to come up with more intuitive ways to generate revenue (ala google) - in other words; this helps everyone.
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8ImTheDarkcyde,
actually, that article is more like: "pay for internet access with your account, and let OTHERS steal access thru your account" :p - purplehaze420, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7dugg, yet i dont know if i would go to such lengths just to get wireless
- missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6While I agree there are things you should pay for, just because something is for macs doesn't mean it's only for fanboys. As absolutely ***** crazy as this sounds, there are people who use a mac not because they think it's far superior to a windows machine, but because they just like it more. You wouldn't know it from Digg, but some of us actually care how something functions, not the brand on it.
- satanatnmtedu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9@ BGFeltenink
No, it is theft, moron. You don't need to have physical property to continute theft. If I hook up cable service without the cable company's permission, it is theft. See "Theft of service".
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/nycodes/c82/a38.html (an example from New York statutes)
Now, go back to your room. You are grounded, young man. - ElMoselYEE, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7thumbs up, cuz office space is the greatest movie ever.
- eatsushi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I'm just mad b/c I already paid for it and then saw this :(
- charon79m, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8This is lame on so many fronts.
First off, this is theft. Plain and simple, it is stealing. Is there are real cost to your theft? No, not really... but it is the principal. If you'll steal a little, you'll seal a lot.
Next up, ICMP tunneling!?!?! You've got to be kidding. Any competent captive portal provider has disallowed ICMP traffic to machines that are not authenticated. The ones that I build log it, record the MAC, and (if the sprung for a location package and multiple APs) show the table you're located at.
Unencrypted signal.... Wow! Can you say, "Please steal my POP3 passwords!"? Yikes, what a bad idea.
Oh, then there's the thought of just tossing up an AP without doing a proper evaluation of the other WIFI networks operating in the area. In the spirit of open source I DOS your cooperate network. STUPID.
Lastly, for the sake of being tired of talking about such an asinine idea not because I'm out of reasons for calling it asinine, let us look at the idea here. I'm going to tunnel all my traffic through a network called "Wifi Liberator." Who is this person running this network? How do I know that they are not doing something nefarious with my traffic? What guarantee do I have that they're not going to do something evil with my data? At least when I agree to the TOS at the pay-for wifi hotspot I'm agreeing to their terms which may include some sort of assurance of quality and respect.
Yep, lame. - darkip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You can sniff https, it's called a MITM attack
- Bmulley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6From what I saw of the article, there's a "proxy" mode where you can redistribute, or there's a "client" mode where you can just steal it for yourself. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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