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- OBKenobi, on 11/14/2007, -102/+320What a surprise.
When are you people going to finally wake up and realize what's going on?
We're at war alright, only it's about us vs. the "terrorists"; it is about us vs. the corporate imperialists. They are the ones who own the terrorists AND our governments. - Xanaver, on 11/14/2007, -13/+196Let me set the record straight for all you guys out there. I work in the IT department of a small ISP comapny. Roughly 1 year ago we had to install some hardware on our equipment, so the DOD had a clear connection that was always on. I checked with some other ISP's in my area and they had to do the same thing. So the problem does not lay in Vista but rather with your ISP. Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about the situation.
- TheRemoteViewer, on 11/14/2007, -17/+145This is most likely nothing. He was probably just being portscanned by rooted machines located in those ranges.
- NiGHTSChao, on 10/11/2007, -64/+190And lemme guess, all your problems would go away if you used Apple products?
What a load of ***** - misterjangles, on 10/11/2007, -18/+122This is just what we need for some good old conspiracy theory. This guy is doing his port scanning with Peer Guardian - which is usually used in combination with Bit Torrent. If that's the case, then he should be expecting lots of traffic from all kinds of sources who are also running Bit Torrent - that's the way it works.
Not to mention if you just monitor your traffic, you'll see constant port scans and traffic coming from every place in the world. It's called "being connected to the internet" folks. - rhabd0mancer, on 10/11/2007, -10/+87This guy is paranoid. There's a laundry list of other packets that he conveniently ignores.
Is Purdue University also spying on him?
Time to bust out the tin foil hat, dude. - badtzmartin, on 10/11/2007, -6/+79He also didn't mention if he was running any bittorrent software. I've seen DOD (as well as DHS and various military branches) pop up in PeerGuardian when running Azureus. AND THIS WAS ON BOTH WINDOWS XP AND OSX, NOT VISTA.
- bysin, on 10/11/2007, -11/+81What a dumbass.. Those connections are from port scanners in worms, its common background noise on the internet.
- misterjangles, on 10/11/2007, -6/+73If this guys is such a networking genius, what the hell is his computer doing in the DMZ where other systems are getting straight to those internal ports? If you have your computer outside of a firewall then you're asking for trouble. That goes for every OS. Of course Windows is the worst case scenario, but any OS is vulnerable if you just put it out fully exposed on the internet.
- LakeshoreBaby, on 10/14/2007, -23/+85And of course there is the backdoor into the iPhone.
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=120&a=2824 - FKnight, on 10/11/2007, -16/+78Inaccurate anti-Microsoft/anti-American FUD. This guy is running a P2P client and freaking out over other computers connecting and blaming the US Government and Microsoft because he's a paranoid freak who wants to feel cool by bashing both the US Government *AND* Microsoft at the same time.
Go ahead and bury me because everyone on Digg is a paranoid loser ***** too. You know it's true. Prove me right. - jagermeistr, on 10/11/2007, -8/+67http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/interviews/klein.html
its happening. - mrlost117, on 10/11/2007, -21/+75he might not have said it the best way possible, but he is right...
- moofer, on 10/11/2007, -4/+53I'm reasonably sure that the DoD would not put "DoD" in their Whois registry for network ranges that they're doing black-ops stuff from - bysin is right. He's just being scanned.
- vradi, on 10/11/2007, -13/+60I don't know about you.. but I sure believe everything i read on an intarweb forum!
- killtherebel, on 10/11/2007, -12/+59Does anyone actually believe this?
- aecarol, on 10/11/2007, -2/+36So MS allows DoD to use a super seeecret Vista backdoor to spy on everyones computer and they are too stupid to make it not show up using normal tools AND he's the only guy out of MILLIONS who has noticed?
- InfamousX241, on 10/11/2007, -3/+31From what the article is telling me, Windows Vista isn't letting the US government spy on your PC any more than it lets the average joe. Attempted connections != spying. There's no evidence that Vista has some services allowing the US government gain access to your PC, meaning these attempted connections are as harmless as the tons of people who port scan you daily to see if you're vulnerable to any exploits.
Stop panicking. - chris8535, on 10/11/2007, -2/+24I worked IT for a University, and we faught our asses off to make sure we did not have to install this hardline to the DoD. We tried to tell everyone, get in the newspaper (we were bound by a gag order) and a number of other things. We finally beat them at their own game by declaring ourselves a private network and implementing a few protocols to back that up.
And its not called Carnivore... quit watching swordfish and alias... it falls under the phone tapping laws of the 70's - Waterrat, on 10/11/2007, -11/+32 behind a firewall,a router and running Linux...Feel safe,but still,this is just WRONG!
- aadnk, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22That's easy to determine. Do the same test on Windows XP, and see if you get similar results.
- leahzero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20Apparently you've also blocked the comma, period, and enter keys.
- shranko, on 10/11/2007, -2/+21It's called IP spoofing and it is very simple to do. Until I see packet captures take this post with a grain of salt.
- Rukaribe, on 10/11/2007, -5/+23Thank god there are others who aren't bias mac fanboys also.
- Drahkar, on 10/11/2007, -7/+25Actually its a known fact that the NSA worked hand in hand with Microsoft developing the security protocols for Windows Vista. That being the case I don't see how it would be a far of a leap to have them have added code which allows them access to Vista PCs.
But that's ok, just because its there doesn't mean they will use it right? Just like the Marshal Law restrictions that have been put into place that effectively turn us into a dictatorship until the 'Crisis' is over. Just because its there doesn't mean it'll get used of abused, right?
Man I wish I were that naive. It must make living day to day really simple. - Qumahlin, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20Considering peerguardian is a POS and has been since day one I won't buy a word this guy says. Peerguardian is one of the most misleading applications ever and those using it are idiots. It's nothing but a huge IP list that people think will help them avoid getting busted by the MPAA/RIAA. Most likely if he is seeing any real hits from the DoD it's because someone there is trying to download or is uploading whatever torrent this jackass is getting.
- TremorX, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18People were saying the same thing when Windows 95 came out.
- techmaster, on 10/11/2007, -4/+21Apparently you have no idea what a DMZ is. DMZ = no firewall. DMZ is not the same as opening a couple of ports to allow a service or two to function.
- skinflute, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17His latency won't exactly go down when he includes his IP in a post like that. :)
- bysin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17Yes
- Disfnord, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18Article? All I saw were a few forums posts from a kid who's not even smart enough to blur out his own ip address when he posts pics of his "proof".
- chris9902, on 10/11/2007, -6/+21don't try and swim against the current. Just let the digg nerds have their 5 minutes of uneducated ranting and move on.
- Salgat, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19Just use Linux, when everything is open source and laid bare, you can have the satisfaction of knowing what exactly is in your computer.
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15You just made me cry tears of joy nice comment sir you win the thread
- sirhomer, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18Digg went from Mac fanboys to "anti-Mac fanboys" in less then a year. Even if the article has nothing to do with the Mac there are several comments dissing in any news post, even if it has to do with politics.
- MegaKN, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15Admittedly pretty strange, but there are plenty of possibilities as to how that happened.
- EXreaction, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17You are one of those people that take any chance they can to "blame the liberals" are you not?
So if it really was the DoD trying to hack into personal computers, that is Microsofts fault, it has nothing to do with our government at all now does it? // sarcasm - dxprog, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16FBI: President Bush. We've done some spying and there's this kid who spends all his time on Digg.
Bush: Hmmm... Seems mighty 'spicous. - philoneous, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17ummm... PG2 isn't Vista ready (http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/) and it appears that the remote desktop window is running XP.
- BUrAph, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13What I don't understand is that these kinds of backdoors (like the AT&T snooping, iPhone snooping etc..) are usually easily discovered. So anyone intent on doing something bad will just avoid these devices/networks. It's like the whole piracy issue. A company might add DRM to their intellectual property, but anyone true pirate will get around the restrictions, while the rest of the population has to endure the crippled software.
- narlzac85, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14if people believe that this is because MS let them connect, then they should also believe that they put in backdoors for all those other companies/governments that were trying to connect in the screenshots. When I open Peer Guardian I get all sorts of attempts to connect, thats just how things are. 2 out of 30 are from organizations related to the US government?!!! OMG the feds are watchin' me! The internet is not a secret, once you connect, you lose some privacy. If you aren't hiding anything, what government will even care? They don't have infinite resources. Monitoring every person on earth would take....every person on earth.
- biggrz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11seriously. 1. He's using peerguardian, so you can modify the host results 2. he's not showing us the full ports, 3. he's not showing us anything of value that can be used to make these claims
- nullmind, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12This is caused by UDP packet spoofing (since the IP headers can be faked along with the UDP headers, and there is no handshake or key). I'm pretty confident this is either just random noise or someone doesn't like this ass hole ;)
- MalDON, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Peer guardian was being run under XP (He opened up a remote desktop for some reason). Does not mean it's a Vista move. If anything, he probably uses AT&T and this was all part of the norm. Windows or not.
- Reno582, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13Tin-foil hats anyone?
- LakeshoreBaby, on 10/11/2007, -8/+18Yah
http://news.com.com/FBI+director+wants+ISPs+to+track+users/2100-7348_3-6126877.html
But remember when Steve Gibson found the MICE backdoor on Windows and all the people he consulted with said that there was no way that it ended up there by accident.
http://www.grc.com/wmf/wmf.htm - Branden, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11There is a beta version that works in Vista.
http://phrosty.phoenixlabs.org/pg2-rc1/ - msgyrd, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14This happens to all machines, regardless of OS. It doesn't mean a connection was made, just that they attempted to make one. Probably a ping or something. Peer Guardian for OS X shows similar connections, and I'm sure Linux logs the exact same stuff. If no data is being transmitted, you don't have to worry about it.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14
C'mon guys... you must support your local Starbuck... without your hard earned $ they will perish.. where else to have some java?... why put money into your local economy, when you can grease the pockets of some nice mega-corporation... small business is so 20 century.
/*sarcasm*/ - puredeviation, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10I use Windows XP and I got those IP addresses connecting to my computer too. It's not actually true.
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