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- EnderMB, on 02/16/2009, -2/+54First of all, holy *****! Gizmodo has written something positive about Microsoft!
Secondly, this is why I think the iPhone and iPod are such fantastic products. They've taken market share within competitive markets and have forced other companies to pull their finger out and come up with fantastic products to get the market share back.
This is a good time for the consumer, and as a Microsoft fan I cannot wait to try this out. - Linh, on 02/16/2009, -4/+45looks like potential... but smooth? it did not look very smooth to me. granted, this is still many months away, so I really hope it pans out. I refuse to switch to att, and want a keyboard, so WM or Android is my only option. WM6.1 was/is just terrible.
- bjdowns, on 02/16/2009, -2/+40I did not know the iPhone had a lick factor.
- sickthoughts, on 02/16/2009, -8/+36Looks incredibly laggy and slow.
- timpoke8, on 02/16/2009, -5/+32Despite its obvious shortfalls, the iPhone is just awesome because it has made other phones better. It has made other manufacturers realize that it's all about software and the interface.
- jellehenkens, on 02/16/2009, -4/+30Atleast Windows Mobile 6.5 has copy paste
- krystalo, on 02/16/2009, -1/+27"You can scroll up and down the honeycomb to start apps. No more start menu. The honeycomb is supposed to make it easier to see the icons and click on them. It works well."
A positive comment from Gizmodo about something Microsoft did is really something to write home about. - krystalo, on 02/16/2009, -8/+32Well done Microsoft!
- fr34k5h0w, on 02/16/2009, -5/+28The UI is still way too slow to be useful. Watch him drag scroll and you'll see it sits there and thinks before it does anything. I think the best thing that would help them is to interpret it as a scroll first, then if they don't scroll very far redetermine it as a touch. Otherwise it's too laggy and I'll get pissed and throw the device at a nearby wall.
- insertAliasHere, on 02/16/2009, -1/+20That's very true. For all the things it does wrong, the iPhone did two things very right: interface and usability.
There's a lot of people saying that Apple didn't innovate at all, and that might be true. But they took a whole bunch of things that may have been invented before, and put them together in a visually appealing, easy to use package, and marketed the hell out of it. If there's one thing apple is great at, it's marketing.
And whether or not we'd see some of the new designs on the newer phones if it werent for the iPhone, who knows. Probably, but probably not as soon. Think about the Storm (admittedly not a great phone, but a step in an interesting direction), HTC Touch (Pro/HD), and the Palm Pre. All touchscreen phones with an interface designed to compete with the iPhone and fix the shortcomings of it. Storm tried making the screen a big click button, Pre is aiming to give you multitasking, and the HTC phones brought TouchFlo with them. All steps in the right direction, all competing with the iPhone.
Competition is always good. - pulpjedi, on 02/16/2009, -6/+19Wow, Windows Mobile is finally catching up to the iPhone's UI. Only took them 2 years...
If you think Apple is resting on it's laurels... You know iPhone 3.0 firmware is right around the corner. Still, I have to say it's good to see some real competition in the marketplace this year. - digitalpencil, on 02/16/2009, -1/+12yeah, the menu especially but i like it.
- JackGrinnan, on 02/16/2009, -5/+14The iPhone interface is awesome ... and it'd be nice to have something to compete with it. Not so fast, Blackberry Touch.
- efitz11, on 02/16/2009, -2/+11blackberry touch? really?
- inactive, on 02/16/2009, -2/+11nope
- sickthoughts, on 02/16/2009, -2/+10can we get off mothers, cus i just got off yours.
- digitalpencil, on 02/16/2009, -1/+9yeah it definitely looks very laggy in terms of scroll. perhaps MS isn't using the same picsel tech apple etc. are being sued for unlawfully using for fast redraw but overall, it's a step in the right direction and it's great to see some legitimate competition form as many parties as possible, especially MS.
- drouk1556, on 02/16/2009, -0/+8It's called the Storm and it's out on Verizon. Ridiculously slow, but it keeps improving with OS releases.
- control98408, on 02/16/2009, -2/+10Looks very zune like.
- ExSlashdotter, on 02/16/2009, -3/+11At what point are functionality and usability mutually exclusive?
I had a motoQ (WM5, then WM6) and I'm sorry, but its a crappy phone. - cawpin, on 02/16/2009, -0/+7WM6 did, so I would think so.
- beesaretasty, on 02/16/2009, -3/+10Don't worry. They'll speed it up in the commercials like Apple.
- NeoTechni, on 02/16/2009, -3/+10No it's not.
- bigdoof, on 02/16/2009, -4/+11Gizmodo is probably one of those most irrationally anti-Microsoft tech/gadget blogs I've ever read. If they have something positive to say about WM6.5, I'd say that MS is doing a pretty good job.
- Dumbledorito, on 02/16/2009, -0/+6So you can run an app in the background, now, can you?
- SyKoTiX, on 02/16/2009, -0/+6Will older phones running previous versions of WM6.X get an update to this version?
Just curious, because I have a first gen HTC Touch running WM6.1 (I think its 6.1 anyways). I really hope so, but I won't get my hopes too high... - Galaxylander, on 02/16/2009, -1/+7I'm a huge Apple fan, but the Zune's interface is pretty damn good, and way better than the iPod classic's. I like the iPod nano's and iPod touch's interface more but there's nothing really wrong with the Zune's interface.
This WinMo phone looks like it DOES have something wrong with it. Firstly, it's very slow to respond. Secondly when you're scrolling through the list to select something there's an issue I noticed. When you want to select something you have to scroll it to the middle rather than being able to click whichever item you want, that's just annoying. If you have the internet menu item like 3 pages down wouldn't it be better to do a quick flick of the finger to get it to sling down to there and then click it when you see it? Because in this case you'd have to scroll [and it doesn't look like it has inertia] and scroll and scroll and even when it shows up on the screen you have to scroll it to the middle. And you can only reorient things when they're selected in the middle.
The honeycomb screen is nice looking, yes but the scrolling on it is terrible. I came up with an interface idea a while ago that I think would be better than what the iPhone and WinMo or Android have to offer. Why are all the icons on pages? I'd think of it in a computer desktop sort of way. On the iPhone this would work especially well. When you first unlock the device you're zoomed into a screen of the apps you use the most. Say you want to use an app that's not on that particular screen, you just use a pinch gesture to zoom out and you see a zoomed out desktop with all of your apps in front of you, and if you press and hold your finger you can use the loupe to see your icons up close. Then you just double tap the section of the app desktop that you want to get to and it zooms there.
In short, it works like an iPhone web page. You zoom in on what you want to see better. You zoom out to see all of the page and pick areas that interest you. Why can't the app screen work like this? - FutureGuy, on 02/16/2009, -1/+7Yes WinMo is really struggling...ohh wait...
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=14848
WinMo 6.5 is a big step up from 6.1 so expect a lot more nicer phones. - mattwalton56, on 02/16/2009, -0/+6Awesome!
I've been contemplating buying an HTC Touch for a while, now. I had no idea they were making a new one. - serif69, on 02/16/2009, -1/+7Mine tastes like pocket lint and finger grease. Not very appetizing.
- bearcat8543, on 02/16/2009, -1/+7you can also use it to call someone.
-hmm, ive seen that before, not sure where,.. - cyberdork, on 02/16/2009, -1/+6Does Gizmodo ever has anything positive to say about anything (except LEGO)?
- SGandG, on 02/16/2009, -0/+5^lol. Im big on Apple also but when something looks cool it looks cool and this LOOKS COOL.....now Im sure there will be reports and such that this is the "iPhone Killer" and all this hoopla but lets just keep it realistic. This is a nice lookin interface that looks good ans shows promise for Windows mobile users. Point blank period.
- jakem1, on 02/16/2009, -1/+6Actually, their Windows 7 coverage has been very positive and very thorough.
- inactive, on 02/16/2009, -1/+6If my HTC worked anything close to an iPhone I would throw it in the garbage and cry. It doesn't, and I'm happy to say it works so much better.
- fr34k5h0w, on 02/16/2009, -0/+5Doubtful. It usually depends on a.) the OEM and b.) the carrier. Both are looking for a profit, so it's doubtful at best.
- nkassi, on 02/16/2009, -1/+6Never, it's all about talent. Microsoft has the codding talent but fails at the design talent.
- NegativeDigg, on 02/16/2009, -1/+6They've been taking over before the iphone and the android.... what are you talking out? Do you know how huge the windows mobile community is?
- digitalpencil, on 02/16/2009, -1/+5Giz definitely have their gripes about MS but TBH i've agreed with a lot of their positions on various topics.
On a side note, i prefer the look of webOS from the little i've seen so far but yeah, it's awesome to see competition from many sides.. it really inspires innovation and we're clearly seeing innovation from the mobile market with iPhone OS, Android, webOS and now WM. I wish I could say the same for BB/RIM.. - Logicwax, on 02/16/2009, -2/+6very true.
"There's a lot of people saying that Apple didn't innovate at all, and that might be true. "
then those people are probably not technical-minded (or of the opposite end of the spectrum either). Apple innovated touch-screen technology. No one has ever made a capacitive grid-array touchscreen before (READ "grid-array", big difference from a regular capacitive touchscreen with parameter sensors). It'll be interesting to see what else apple does with this technology (they've already incorporated into touchpads on laptops, that perform MUCH better), as they hold the patent on it, but they definitely innovated the touchscreen. It performs MUCH differently and better then any other implementation of touch-sensitive surfaces. - moose26, on 02/16/2009, -1/+5Competition inspiring innovation... nice and it only will benefit the consumers in the future.
- digitalpencil, on 02/16/2009, -0/+4it's great to see some more competition from MS.
- NeoTechni, on 02/16/2009, -4/+8That was horrible. When he's scrolling his pics/music/favorites on the homepage it only shows 1 item at a time, and a gesture only scrolls 1 item at a time too? That's horribly slow! Gees, make it pop up a list.
- jakem1, on 02/16/2009, -1/+5It's an Alpha build and the final version won't be released for at least 6 months.
- inactive, on 02/16/2009, -0/+4check out the TouchPro (with, ahem, full hardware qwerty keyboard and copy/paste and flash player).
- cyberdork, on 02/16/2009, -9/+13Huge improvement over WM6. And please people don't compare WM65 to the iPhone's OSX.
They both have different philosophies: WM offers great functionality at the cost of usebility, while the iPhone offers great usebility at the cost of functionality. Microsoft made a step in the good direction with WM65, just like Apple made a step in the good direction with iPhone OS 2.0
I have both devices, a WM device for Nav and GPS tracking and an iPhone for everything else. - IRoaChI, on 02/16/2009, -2/+6My wife loves that feature :)
- deviledham, on 02/17/2009, -0/+3All of the features displayed aren't necessarily native to WM6.5. HTC is well known for their in-house improvements to the windows mobile interface (IE Touch Flo 3D). Hopefully, though, these will be features that are common to every WM6.5 phone.
- SharpEye, on 02/16/2009, -3/+6Looked cool, but a little clunky. Didn't seem to scroll smoothly or render as nicely as iPhone.
- inactive, on 02/16/2009, -7/+10So does your mom.
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