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- blissfollowed, on 12/03/2008, -4/+86"When Steve Sinofsky told everybody at PDC 2008 that Beta 1 would ship sometime early next year, apparently he meant really early, Jan 13 08!"
...so it's already out? - ctrlfreak13, on 12/03/2008, -1/+47You do realize it's a beta right? If it wasn't buggy it would be an actual product release.
- crazlunatic, on 12/03/2008, -0/+36LOL. New Windows 7 feature - time travel!
- BluesFan, on 12/03/2008, -0/+34I might as well wait for windows 7 instead of buying Vista..
- kiwi2008, on 12/03/2008, -0/+34I have to say that at least Microsoft are trying to do something about their release dates.
If they can get it right, they'll shut a few detractors up. Only a few mind. Some people just love to hate them. - kevyn, on 12/03/2008, -0/+29how about a beta stfu
- Carnage6669, on 12/03/2008, -1/+22yeah i got a couple of machines set aside for this... 2 clients and one 2008 server... lets see if it lives up to half the hype
now... how to ninja my way into that conference..... hmmm.... - Cypher19, on 12/03/2008, -6/+25AHAHAHAHA!! It's funny because he's making light of the public perception of vista even though Vista itself was more stable and easier to use than XP was at its launch and the issues were predominantly related to 3rd party hardware and software and even then most of those issues have been fixed!! BAAAAHAHAHA!!
- archer75, on 12/03/2008, -0/+19The development of windows 7 is different than other releases. In the past they just threw an OS together and worked on it from there. Widows 7 is modular. Only code that is 100% complete makes it in so the OS itself could ship at any time and be stable. And right now it is very stable.
Windows Vista was fine at launch. I started running it back in beta. The issue is it changed everything under the hood which required new drivers and updated software. Hardware and software vendors dropped the ball here but that support is here now.
Windows 7 uses the same driver model as vista. The same drivers will work as well as the same apps. There is no waiting for that after launch.
Vista was a big architectural change, really a rewrite in many respects, certainly when it comes to the desktop. Windows 7 just polishes and improves that groundwork. - ww3ace, on 12/03/2008, -1/+17I've got the pre-beta on my tablet. Its got 1.3 single core processor and 512mb of ram but it runs windows 7 like a dream even though it doesn't have a video driver. I'm really liking its touch interface and IE8 adds so much functionality to tablet browsing.
also NEW PAINT FTW - Zippo, on 12/03/2008, -1/+16Man, Microsoft is really trying to sweep Vista under the rug as quickly as possible.
- Aitese, on 12/03/2008, -0/+15Has half of Digg lost the ability to read or has using Google products rendered the word BETA invisible to your mind?
It's not being released early, they're releasing a BETA! - Ragarnok, on 12/03/2008, -1/+15Wait, that's weird Jan13 is not a friday
- inactive, on 12/03/2008, -4/+17It's apparent you know absolutely nothing.
Vista x64 is the best OS the company has ever released, but you're too blinded by internet FUD to know that. - DuMbGuM, on 12/03/2008, -1/+12Build 6801 of Win7 has been perfectly stable for me.
- sexybobo, on 12/03/2008, -0/+11I have been playing around with build 6801 it uses considerable less resources then vista does and moves faster. It seems they have been spending a lot of time revamping the core OS
- inactive, on 12/03/2008, -3/+13Remember folks...
THIS IS A BETA!!!
This is not the final, nor if kept, pirated and released with the full version the following year makes Windows 7 a crappy software.
"Windows 7 Beta 1: Countdown to crashville" -- Something mactards and linuxheads are waiting to say... for a ***** beta!! - crazlunatic, on 12/03/2008, -1/+11It's not too bad. I'm actually considering going to this one. The Illinois one is great because it's near Canada and this time it doesn't cost an airplane ticket to Japan and back to get in. Here's the schedule:
12/9/08 Houston, TX
12/11/08 Orlando, FL
12/16/08 Atlanta, GA
1/13/09 Chicago, IL
1/13/09 Minneapolis, MN
1/16/09 Washington, DC
1/20/09 New York, NY
1/22/09 Boston, MA
1/22/09 Detroit, MI
1/26/09 Dallas, TX
2/19/09 San Francisco, CA - Buddahsenda, on 12/03/2008, -2/+12I cant wait to see it like in '85
http://www.bendecho.com/86fc1e5ca2-windows - drcreek, on 12/03/2008, -0/+10I'm a OS X bigot and I actually like Windows 7. Got it on my Macbook Pro and it's more stable and useable than Vista.
- piesforyou, on 12/03/2008, -0/+9hey you forgot to.... oh wait i get it.
- natenovs, on 12/03/2008, -2/+11smaller memory and hd footprint
more uac settings
ui changes - new taskbar, dockable windows, etc
software accelorated DX10
....
not a lot in the way of bullet point features - this is more like the Snow Leapord of the windows world - lul101, on 12/03/2008, -1/+10If you have the money, and want to support a product that is actually good, then yeah, buy the product.
- Innuendo24, on 12/03/2008, -2/+11I'm sorry, vista is better than XP, pretty much all over. Coming from a technical support background, and dealing with low end users all day, vista brought so much to the table in terms of ease of use and accessibility to troubleshooting tools it made XP look archaic. Everyone bitched about it being confusing because it was different, not because it was harder to use. I tell people all day long that start search is the most useful thing ever invented. No more having to access run dialogs to get to common programs like cmd or registry editor. Vista is such a huge step above XP they are hardly worth comparing.
- MindTrigger, on 12/03/2008, -1/+10I have to agree. Vista Ultimate 64, with the exception of sound driver problems, has been fantastic on my home gaming rig. It's super fast and stable. I think Vista just needs more hardware than most people can throw at it, which was a poor design by Microsoft. You have companies like Dell and HP throwing out low/med end Vista-only computers that just cannot run the *****. I went back to XP on my Vista laptop because Vista was so damn slow I always wanted to throw the computer in my pool and be done with it.
- Sketchcast, on 12/03/2008, -6/+14Vista was ready, the hardware wasn't. If someone tried to install Leopard on a G3 iMac with 256mb of RAM, you'd call him and idiot and blame the user; but when the same thing is happening on the other side of the fence everyone blames Microsoft.
- Elranzer, on 12/03/2008, -0/+8"actually that's a bit backwards, 7 is more like Tiger and Vista is more like Snow Leopard."
No, you got it all wrong.
Tiger = XP (been out longer than it should have been, rock solid)
Leopard = Vista (glassy, lots of resistance to upgrade)
Snow Leopard = 7 (attempt to improve the previous release) - geoken, on 12/03/2008, -0/+8"now... how to ninja my way into that conference."
It'll probably be on Pirate Bay before any of the mailed out discs have been delivered to their recipients. - kronix2, on 12/03/2008, -1/+9Actually I'd say Windows Server 2008 is the best OS they've released, but Vista x64 is rock solid as well.
- cyrusuncc, on 12/03/2008, -1/+82008?
Did Bill buy a DeLorean? - MindTrigger, on 12/03/2008, -3/+10I've got a little HP laptop I bought for $600 on sale last Xmas. Turion64x2, nVidia 7 series video mobile video, 2GB ram, etc. It's pretty wimpy but it's more than enough for what I use it for, which is surfing the net while I lounge on the sofa. It came with Vista Home (sp1) on it, which I had to pull off and jump through oops to get XP working on it (I already have an Ubuntu Laptop).
Vista ***** KILLED this machine, and I had no idea how bad it was until I replaced it with XP and it sped up at least 10 times. Web video sucked, flash in websites sucked, sound was low. Hard drive was *always* thrashing even though I disabled about 5 services that cause Vista to beat down the hard drive. Startup was...no *****...5 minutes before the drive would settle down a bit, then it would start thrashing after 10 mins or so. Understand, I had little or nothing installed on this laptop, so it wasn't my apps. XP correct *all* of this, including making the sound louder (go figure). Hard drive and network performance sped up dramatically.
I plan to put Windows 7 on it as soon as Beta 1 comes out since Vista smacked this computer down so hard, I will know right away if I am seeing any performance gains. Vista Ultimate 64 runs great on my powerhouse gaming rig, so it's really the lower end machines that can't handle it. - SirFragsMore, on 12/03/2008, -1/+8FTA "Windows 7 Beta 1 to be released on January 13, 2009"
- zyl0x, on 12/03/2008, -0/+7The joke is in reference to the summary:
"...early next year, apparently he meant really early, Jan 13 08!"
08? That's this year. Get it? Jan 08, time machine, OSX time machine doesn't actually travel through time..
You'd think more people would pick up on this joke. - crazlunatic, on 12/03/2008, -0/+6There's been 2 milestones. The only one that comes to mind right now is build 6591 which was M2.
The current pre-beta handed out was build 6801. The one demonstrated at PDC was build 6936. And apparently, the build being demonstrated in WinHEC China was build 6956.
I'm expecting some surprises, so there better be - eKalb33, on 12/03/2008, -5/+11Doesn't Mac OS X already have a time machine? Microsoft falls behind again...
- inactive, on 12/03/2008, -2/+8Hmm " $399 (Ultimate)"
Actually $224.99 for complete full version.
If you have your original XP disk and want the upgrade as a full install CD:
$155.00
Ok so lets tack on another 100 bucks for the release date price. Thats still 255 bucks for an update from 2002.
For Apple, its about from 10.1 to 10.5 it's been about 100 to 150 bucks every ***** time from 2001.
Thats about 500-600 bucks for your purchase buddy!
Mactards are not very good at their math.
And Hmm, I can run CS4, autocad, 3dMax, and Maya in 64 bit with Vista 64... can Apple? NOPE!! - kidcodea, on 12/03/2008, -2/+8its funny coz im running an even earlier version of 7 on my asus n10 netbook 2gb and i can run 1080p mkv rips on my fullhd telly via hdmi with 70% cpu left to virtualize a mac costing double of it. (best 530 euros i ever spent)
i guess im just lucky that my copy of this OS is stable so i dont need to join the army of numbskulls that apple breeds.
oh well i'll just load farcry2 now... - crazlunatic, on 12/03/2008, -1/+7We still haven't moved away from the bashing Vista trend yet apparently. People will get used to switching over
- kyle212, on 12/03/2008, -0/+6I don't find my Vista copy buggy at all, but I've gotta say, 6801 is a pretty stable build, hasn't crashed once
- kevyn, on 12/03/2008, -6/+11I think I'll still wait for Windows 7 SP1
- wolfing, on 12/03/2008, -0/+5But this is SP2, as in Vista SP2
- tolbs, on 12/03/2008, -0/+5Well, his user name is crazlunatic :P
- stuffradio, on 12/03/2008, -1/+6Digg users are not sponsored by Microsoft...
- soopafly, on 12/03/2008, -3/+8In other news, Windows 8 will be released in 2010
- MrCapo, on 12/03/2008, -0/+4Glad I got those MSTSC:MS Vista: Configuration and MCITP: Enterprise Support Technician certs ... sigh .. will they provide free testing / certification upgrades to Windows 7 certs?
Anybody have any links / awareness of certification levels for Windows 7?!?
Bastards - archer75, on 12/03/2008, -1/+5The main feature of time machine is the ability to restore to previous versions of documents. Windows has had this for quite awhile.
It also does backups, Windows has also done this for quite awhile.
All time machine did was give users a cheesy GUI.
And I am typing this from within OSX. - quidpro, on 12/03/2008, -0/+4Same here. Lots of little details which, while could've been implemented before, are nice to have around.
- slvrbullet87, on 12/03/2008, -2/+6This is a BETA you ***** morron. This is where people get to use it on all kinds of different setups to find problems which MS will then(hopefully) go back and fix.
- MrCapo, on 12/03/2008, -0/+3Yeah well I already have the MSDST (XP) level cert so the MCTSC: Vista and MCITP: Enterprise Support Tech were bundled into 1 exam (the upgrade from MSDST) and it also counts an an elective for the MCITP: Enterprise Administrator for Server 2008
What are they going to call Windows 7 certification if MCITP: Enterprise Support Tech is taken? Seems like they thought Vista would last like XP and they could call their cert EST
It just bothers me that I am $250 out of pocket for the cert that is essentially rendered worthless as Vista gets skipped over by 99% of enterprises for Windows 7 .. and another $250 for the Win7 certs - chadsmith729, on 12/03/2008, -0/+3Damn, I live in Nebraska. Guess it's going to be $500 maybe $1000?
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