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- Phocion55, on 10/10/2007, -8/+64I'd honestly like to hear the perspective of someone who SUPPORTS Microsoft/Vista even after it's now clear that computers "phones-home" and can be locked accordingly. Aren't we all AGAINST shady DRM practices such as this?
You deserve better than this. You don't need to be treated like a criminal. You purchased your computer, you own the hardware.......do you really want to hand it over to Microsoft by installing an OS that THEY control?
Think about it. - santiago3b, on 10/10/2007, -13/+58This is a major reason I'm hopping off the Microsoft wagon. After a family member's laptop, with legally installed (but discs not included by Gateway) XP was disabled by WGA after a monthly update, we were dead in the water. I defragged, installed Ubuntu as a second operating system, and absolutely love it. XP is my last MS operating system. My next purchased machine will be a Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed.
- goldfenix, on 10/10/2007, -6/+47Ironically, as a person who might be prone to yell "YARR HARR HARR!" at random intervals, I have had NO problems with WGA. So the poor legit users are getting hosed by it while the gatherers of plunder have no problems whatsoever.
- cyberpope, on 10/10/2007, -6/+41I think most people don't like Windows Genuine Advantage, any real comp savvy person can easily get around it. It doesn't really stop piracy . All it does is make the lives of less knowledgeable people out there slightly more convoluted. I've made the switch to Ubuntu, a month or 2 ago, and am loving it (keep Windows around for gaming though).
- aywwts4, on 10/10/2007, -1/+31Yeah, the only problems I have had with WGA are on legitimately installed systems. As I type this on a now pirated copy of windows (Despite having a license) No problems whatsoever.
- Phocion55, on 10/10/2007, -4/+24You, sir, have lost it.
- dualscreenman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21I'd say the mere /existence/ of WGA is a major flaw in Microsoft's anti-piracy strategy
- Bhatch514, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23let me play games on Linux, that is all i ask. Starcraft2 particularly
- havesometea, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21DDOS attacks on the WGA servers in 3...2...1....
- evi1, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20Funny how you can install the cracked vista and still receive all the updates legit users enjoy but with none of that nosey DRM. Of course I wouldn't know anything about that.
- RedHerringHack, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17Apparently, morons cannot recognize their own kind.
- Noobuntu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15WGA is ***** and a security hole. Microsoft does _NOT_ get to control the way I use the operating system I paid for under any circumstances. I don't care if it's a bug, they are crossing the line of hackers gaining full control over my PC.
A billion dollar company should not have a "feature" giving false positives and screwing everyone world wide because a damn server went down. - Eloom123, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14What I don't get is why Microsoft doesn't realise that they are shooting themselves in the foot by having these sorts of copy protection systems. Every time they have updated WGA it has been quickly cracked. Pirated versions of MS operating systems are readily available, why are they spending the money on maintaining WGA and willingly taking on the costs that mistakes like this are generating? What business would want to use an operating system that may someday randomly go into a reduced functionality mode like this? I just don't see how Microsoft benefits from WGA.
- hobbitaussie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13You don't get it. MS in this case had a problem with WGA and *many* people with valid licenses were having problems. MS even admitted it.
- sctwp09, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15I say an OS that doesn't lock out legal users is better. In mission critical environments, I shouldn't need a "trial" OS to kick in.
- Phocion55, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12But imagine, for a moment, a coordinated DDoS attack on those WGA servers at say, 8:30AM EST.
East coast businesses with client Vista desktops would be SCREWED beyond belief.
Microsoft definately just exposed Vista's soft underbelly. An OS that can be crippled that easily doesn't belong on anyone's harddrive. - samuraisam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Pirated copies are significantly easier to use.
- Wargalas, on 10/10/2007, -6/+16I'm in the same boat as you. Ubuntu 7.04 with Compiz looks and responds better than Vista. Want DX10 games? Wait for them to come out on consoles. Microsoft lost me with this last slap in the face.
- irieKEN, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9WGA isn't intended to stop pirates; it's meant to stop pirates from giving the common man the ability to conveniently use the OS without paying full price for it.
Example: It stops shady computer shops from slapping together $500 computers that run pirated copies of XP/Vista, because as soon as the home user clicks on that little button to "update" WGA, the OS gets deactivated. - jamminman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Well that's because Microsoft is doing such a good job. You see, their plan is to force EVERYONE to pirate, so they can then release a FUNCTIONAL version of WGA and sue everyone for SUPER PROFITS!
- akkibaba, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Dear Mr.Retard : You don't seem to get what the problem is here. Once I buy a copy of Vista, I expect to be DONE talking to Microsoft. I don't deserve for it to scan my system and phone home every time. In this case they're reaching across the internet and actually disabling functionality in 100% legal computers. Do you really not see how ***** up that is?
- cryptocom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if a virus was spread quietly which would trigger on a particular date requiring a reinstall, and then the WGA servers were taken down the night before that date?
I'd say MS has created the largest security risk of all with all their paranoid protection schemes. - Urusai, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I've got a "borrowed" volume license from work, so Microsoft can bite me.
- kendawg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I agree with you goldfenix2. I actually bought Windows Vista since I have a good job now and don't need to pirate like I did when I was 15. I felt pretty bad for pirating every OS since Windows 98 so I figured I'd give MS my fair share. I bought premium, installed it, activated it, and had no problems for a month. Then one day when I turned my computer on, it told me I wasn't genuine. I couldn't get it working normally again after a day's work and that was enough for me. If they are going to put that ***** in their software, they need to make sure it works.
I then downloaded the ParadoxVista crack and haven't looked back. I will never give MS any of my hard earned money again. - ChileanGoD, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11The existance of Microsoft is a major flaw, period.
- thehemi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Sure, stop providing updates and/or patches if someone doesn't "check in" to register their copy, but having the OS switch to limp mode by default? That's a crock in my book and reason why I will never run any WGA equipped OS. Microsoft is just helping to fuel the MacOS and Linux revolution in an age when web-based software deployment is already going to start removing the requirement of Windows on the desktop.
- franksands, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Best MS quote: You have problems, we have dancing paper clips.
- UlicBelouve, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I agree that the legit copies are the ones with problems. Built a slipstream off a legit copy, no dice, all sorts of WGA junk. Build a slipstream off of an illigit, and it works great. But then I just built one off of a corporate volume license, and that solves it.
- TBagwell, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8you're such a loser
- noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9umm... pirated copies of XP don't disable. they just give an annoying message informing you of your pirated copy. you're either an idiot or just trying to spread FUD.
- jamminman, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12The only people who aren't against such practices are people who don't know. Sadly, that's a vast majority.
- jamminman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7So when I need my computer the most, and Microsoft's servers (not MINE) are down, that wonderful I-can't-do-jack-squat trial OS will be there to save the day!
LOLOLOLOLOL - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Ignorance has always been an friend of MS. They all smile in Redmond when they hear stories of clueless users who know nothing other then Windows, Office or IE.
- insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7This flaw and the fact that purdue university now sells vista for over 60 bucks(xp was 8 then later 15) means I will never touch it.
- Theli, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4But we don't really pay for digg, do we?
Besides, digg.com being unavailable due to its server being down I can understand, my operating system not working properly due to some server which contact my operating system should not be dependent upon for normal operation in the first place however... that's quite another can of worms. - Genma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4www.autopatcher.com FTW. learn it, love it. you don't need ms to tell you your os is legal.
- Travelsonic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Apples to Oranges
- rcardona2k, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5MIcrosoft. Your frustration. Our fault.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4As Bugs would say: "What a maroon!". Just try saying "One Care" in a Spanish accent, and you've accurately described yourself!
- directive0, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Most of us have two fingers so its no problem. Multi touch track pads are pretty cool man.
- Stonekeeper, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Donate money to wine then. No really, they are more likely to get you Starcraft 2 than anyone else.
- marx2k, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Companies that install Vista (or really even XP) on mission critical desktops and servers deserve what they get.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Boot licker! I, for one, welcome our DRM overlords... to rot in HELL!
- neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Yeah, a lot of us use it. That's why we complain about its flaws. I would love for Windows to be a better OS so it wouldn't be my barely-preferred OS. I use linux some of the time so that I can get familiar with it. That way, as it improves, I can switch more of my systems over. I used OSX at my old job but unless Apple gives me a decent incentive to pay over 2x as much for a computer that is just as fast as the ones I build, OSX isn't really a competitor for me. For the time being, it's the copy of Windows I have been using for the past 4 years or so.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5GENIUS
- canthraxp, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Linux user:
"Reduced functionallity"
Even LESS? - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Linux takes tweaking?
Ive used it for over a year and I've not had to do any tweaking...It installed straight away and ive had no trouble at all.
When the computer i had Linux on (a P 3) finally died,i bought a computer and it runs Linux just as well as the last one...Still,no tweaking...Everything just worked. - Goldspink, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'm OK as I only have one finger.
- SpyDerMann, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Obviously you never upgrade your hardware. I had to get a crack because my GENUINE Windows told me I was a software pirate, after various hardware upgrades :-/. Had I known this, I wouldn't have bought a GENUINE Windows in the first place. But that does it, this was my first and will be my last Microsoft purchase. If I ever have to upgrade, I'll go Ubuntu.
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