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- dotlizard, on 04/18/2008, -33/+79yes, yes, vista sucks, it bites, it blows ... i should know, i've been using it since the late alpha version, in fact i'm running vista ultimate the 64 bit edition. oh and it just ...
ahh the heck i can't keep this up. i actually like vista. go ahead and digg me down, vista haters, i deserve it. - noahco, on 04/18/2008, -2/+43It took a thousand dollars and an IT professional to move it back to xp?
- pprovo1, on 04/18/2008, -14/+41Ok. I just installed XP on my friends computer...He HAD Vista...Listen to this. On Counter Strike: Source he got about 83 fps on Vista, and now on XP he gets 180 fps. Just goes to show how ***** up the drivers are for Vista...
- mrogi, on 04/18/2008, -13/+37If you needed an IT professional to reformat and load an OS on your machine, you dont know ***** about computers. Most 5th graders can do what you hired an IT tech to do. Vista 32 works great.
- Ramzy, on 04/18/2008, -7/+27Blah di ***** blah. Another person complaining about Vista.
To be honest, I have zero sympathy for this guy. $1,000 spent on trying to fix a ***** OS problem? What, he's incapable of inserting a CD and pressing 'next' a few times?
I've been using Vista since launch, and I’ve barely had any troubles. Granted, there were some hiccups, but that is to be expected with a new OS.
People bitched and moaned about the fact that XP recommended an ungodly 256MB of RAM, and how nothing worked with it... But now the same people who said Windows 98 was the best, and Windows XP sucked, are saying XP is the best, and Vista sucks.
These people need to pull their heads of their asses. If you can't Google a simple problem, or if you don't have the common sense to operate a ***** computer, then just stop trying all together. There's nothing anyone can do for you.
Don't like Vista? CONGRATULATIONS, go back to XP, and keep your mouth shut. No one cares about your 'Vista Woes', nor do we care about your ***** ***** puns 'The Ouch Starts Now'. I don't know why people (bloggers especially), find it necessarily important to announc to the rest of the world that they don't like an operating system, and why they think that anyone would actually give a *****.
It just boggles the mind sometimes. - Cancerkitty, on 04/18/2008, -5/+25I don't mind Vista for the most part. It's been very stable for me, none of these shutdows the guy in the article rails about. My only issue is that it runs significantly slower than XP used to.
- pemojurt, on 04/18/2008, -4/+22Mmm, I don't get any trouble with Vista & why would you need any help loading XP? $1000+ hahaha.
- lithera, on 04/18/2008, -3/+18If you need a "IT professional" to do a format C and insert a WinXP disc into your machine I'd say you are hardly qualified to judge if a certain piece of software "sucks" or not.
Heck, forget the format C, just insert the WinXP disk. - alperea, on 04/18/2008, -1/+11I use Ubuntu and XP for somethings, but this guy sounds like a jack hole. IT professional to re-install an OS? That's his first problem. Learn how to use a computer first before you rant!
- DuxDucis, on 04/18/2008, -3/+13I've found that most problems caused with Vista are either simple incompatability issues, or ***** drivers. The second is completely preventable - I don't know why companies such as Nvidia don't get their act together and bring out some decent drivers.
- DotNetWill, on 04/18/2008, -9/+18OMGZ what amazing eyesight to tell the difference between 83fps and 180fps
- grimward, on 04/18/2008, -7/+16Hahaha, one just has to love the whining this guy does. Not one shred of any kind of technical information to back up his theories, just a rant about how Vista is bad, I'll bet that in this instance, this guy is the problem in Vista ;) However....
If you, who is reading this is considering upgrading to Vista however, you need to know a few things:
* Get new hardware, Vista has was written for the future, which means that it cannot, and will not support legacy hardware.
* Get ready to chuck your legacy software overboard too, it won't work. Vista requires new software, just like windows 95 did.
* If you run Vista 64-bit, you will need signed drivers, if they aren't signed, Vista will chuck them overboard.
* Don't run Vista 32-bit, it's not an improvement, the real power is in the 64-bit version.
* Do not apply the service pack to your machines after installing Vista, get the pre-integrated variant instead, it'll work MUCH more smoothly. - Neticule, on 04/18/2008, -1/+10I agree, at first I hated it, once I got rid of the UAC junk or whatever it was alot better, and now it feels just like xp to me. But whatever, to each his own, if its mucking up your pc then throw it out and go back to xp, or better yet give linux a try.
- c0baltfish, on 04/18/2008, -2/+10The only reason I know you're being sarcastic is because that state is too preposterous to consider otherwise.
- ortucis, on 04/18/2008, -2/+9"Think I went quiet because.."
I don't really hate Vista but don't like it at the same time. What I DO want to know is, who the ***** is this guy and why'd he went quiet in the first place when no one really cared about him going quiet?
Yes I don't care enough to click the link and find out. - aussieNickuss, on 04/18/2008, -1/+8I like it too. I prefer Leopard....but I do like Vista.
- TwistedMenta, on 04/18/2008, -3/+9I like Vista as well. IMHO it's better than XP. 7 years better? No. But definitely an improvement. I sometimes run into problems running software that wasn't designed to run on Vista but everything else runs flawless.
I also really enjoy using the various flavors of Linux and in fact the entire computer science department at my University uses NetBSD machines which are really good. - zazzalicious, on 04/18/2008, -0/+6I have been using Vista on one of my boxes from beta and even though all the drivers are up to date and the latest service pack installed it still annoys the hell out of me. Network file transfers will work fine one day then for some reason it will take 3 hours to transfer a 700 MB file. Why? I have no idea. Also after a few days use the mouse starts sticking and the whole OS slowly grinds to a halt. The UI I find has no discernible benefits and the networking interface is a mess. Reluctantly, I am about to install to XP on this, the 5th machine I have had with Vista installed. Sad, but they just screwed up big time.
- piratearggghhh, on 04/18/2008, -0/+6Even Geek Squad is saying he got ripped off.
- CarlSD, on 04/18/2008, -9/+14Sometimes I get the impression that a lot of people who complain about Vista have never even used it. I have it on a laptop here (as a dual boot with XP) and on my main PC (also as a dual boot with XP). The main PC hardware is 4 years old apart from the upgraded hard drive, graphics card and RAM and I have no problems with Vista Home Premium whatsoever on the laptop or main PC.
- Devilboy666, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5I bought a new PC last year and it came with Vista. It all worked fine but I had some apps that was incompatible with Vista so I installed XP again. Right now I'm running that RC2 of Service Pack 3 and I don't think I can go back to Vista anymore. Everything on my PC is just so much faster.
- cr3ative, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Looks like your comment got cut a bit short, ***** Digg comments.
WOW!
Hang on, why isn't my wireless working? ***** *****.
(Enable restricted repositories)
(Grudgingly install wireless drivers using ndiswrapper)
Reboot
*****! It STILL doesn't work. ***** THIS!
Reboot, inserts XP disc - fakeollie, on 04/18/2008, -1/+6And yet you took the time to come here and tell us what *you* think. At least you already what to do with opinions, right?
- Smudded, on 04/18/2008, -1/+6I discounted your story when you said "I had an IT professional". If you had to have a "professional" format your computer to get XP back on it then I'm going to assume that you wouldn't even be capable of learning how to properly configure your machine.
"But Smudded," you say "I shouldn't have to work at all for my machine to run flawlessly, it should do it all for me." Though thats a nice dream and goal to work towards some day in the future, no operating system is there yet. You see, all computers are against us. Nothing ever wants to actually work the way it should. We must continually coax it into behaving. I believe that Vista is a poorly designed piece of software, but will work the way you want if you know how to use it.
Microsoft just needs to scrap everything they think they know about the structure of their kernel and their registry and just start ALL over again. They would benefit in the long run. - enunna, on 04/18/2008, -5/+9This article is f'n ridiculous
- whataboutdave, on 04/18/2008, -0/+4People get paid 1000 bucks to install OSs? Clearly I'm in the wrong business.
- Fredx, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4Vista is a good OS, but its not a gaming OS, if you want to get the most out of your hardware playing games, stick with XP.
- sladek, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4Lots of my clients have got me to get rid of vista and put XP on.
- whataboutdave, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3"After my last post, suggesting that Steve Ballmer should worry more about building products that work than about buying Yahoo—he has redoubled his efforts to buy Yahoo."
I chuckled. - inactive, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3Dude, Vista is actually easier to install than that. Boot from CD, enter your user name and confirm time zone and walk away.
- knight666, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3XP was so awesome.
You'd get to the install screen, you put in your key, and you see a bar move, so you think: "Oh, okay, this is going to take a while, I'll go do something else."
And after your three-hour bonsai tree session, you come back to find it DESPERATELY wants to know your network settings, because it can't continue without it.
Fooled me the first time. - bradsh, on 04/18/2008, -2/+5PEBKAC.
problem exists between keyboard and chair - kupa, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4So, just personally if or whenever I get around to wanting a Vista machine (rofl), I would assume some of the first steps would be to picking hardware that is completely and fully supported on Vista -- double and triple checking. Because I actually pay attention "Hey, Vista has driver issues!" -- whatever. I mean, really, I'm not gonna go build a computer and just hope that Vista works with it... Besides if I ever jump off the deep end and give up XP, I assume I'll be building one helluva pc that can run Vista just fine, regardless of it's own performance requirements, as well as, I dunno, run crysis without lagging at top settings. Or something completely crazy like that.
- yournamehere, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4how can anyone take this guy seriously if he needs an IT professionals help. Who is he then and why should we listen to him?
- knight666, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3Let's play devil's advocate.
It's a fun game.
"Get Ubuntu!
* Ubuntu was built for all, it will support everything, even your 10 year old video card. If you can't find support for it, you can always compile the drivers yourself.
* Ubuntu uses free and open source software exclusively. Disagree with something? Change it!
* Ubuntu does not have crap like "signed drivers"
* Ubuntu will run in both 32-bit and 64-bit equally.
* Use the built-in Update manager to get new security updates with a click and a password."
A Digg post about Microsoft dropping XP support on June 30th inspired me to try Ubuntu, and I'm very much loving it. :]
So thanks, anonymous Digger, for showing me that Linux is not as scary as I thought! - celticchrys, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Then don't get Vista. No one is preventing you from going to Linux instead. Ubuntu is great. But if you _do_ choose to go to Vista, then you should read hardware requirements _first_ and not whine about them like most people.
- aussieNickuss, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Why is that about not putting SP1 on after an install? I'm about to load Vista on one of my machines, I have a Vista Business disk that I bought through work a few months ago and SP1 installer on a disk that a friend downloaded. This'll still work fine wont it?
- pprovo1, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Ok then why was his Aurora m9700 pre-installed with vista??? The hardware that it came with wasn't "advanced enough" for the crappy OS?? Go to the people complaining about Creative and see if that one flys.
- jakem1, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Yes, that'll be fine.
- inactive, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Yes I have, I run Photoshop and AfterEffects almost daily...
- mvent2, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3Why should I throw out perfectly good hardware and software just to get something that has minimal benefit? I could just stay with XP, or switch to Linux and get more features than Vista for much less resources, and run the legacy software in WINE. I shouldn't have to do all that for software that isn't exactly cheap.
- mustang460, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2i used to have vista as well, but switched back to xp due to poor performance in source games(tf2 would drop into the teens in 32 man servers, low 20's in 24 man)
all source games for me had a huge drop in fps with vista, however no other games that i own(stalker,bioshock,crysis ect.) have a performance difference in xp/vista if I'm using dx9, dx10 has a noticeable drop
since valve has yet to implement a working dual core mode when ~30% of its user base is using one, i don't think vista compatability is high on their list with less than 10% of their userbase - jazzbeaux, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3JUst goes to show how ***** up the DRIVER WRITERS are....
- unrealmp3, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4If your game play well at 83fps without about no activities on the screen, it might not if there is too many action and drop at like 30 fps. If you've got 180 fps, you have a much better margin for framerate drop than 83 fps. It might not be visible at those framerate depending of your monitor, but things can get ugly if the framerate drop too much.
- grimward, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3Well, to be honest, I think all this hatred stems from the first version of Vista, which I tried too, and boy was it a suckfest of epic proportions! So I went back to XP, also thining that it sucked. Then SP1 rolled around my parts, and people were starting to go "omg, it fixes all the *****, it fixes ALL the *****!" .. and I tried out ultimate with SP1 pre-integrated, and after having tried it on a quite a bit of different machines, I can safely say that it's great :D
- unrealmp3, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2I know we are in an era of more and more powerful computers with all the multi-core systems appearing on the market, but there are still a lot of old computers in this world which are not really suitable for a Windows Vista installation.
I'm not saying Vista is bad in itself and I might appreciate it one day, but I feel Microsoft missed the boat by not giving a lightweight Windows Vista Operating System out of the box. No wonder why they are retracting back with all those low-power, ultra-mobile computers (Asus Eee, HP 2133, Everex Cloudbook) that doesn't has the specifications requirements to run Windows Vista, leaving the market wide open for alternative operating systems like Linux.
I'm pretty sure Microsoft is a bit scared by those laptops, hence why they are planning to provide a special lightweight version of Windows XP for those devices. - celticchrys, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2I don't understand why no one remembers that every other Windows release in the past also had problems on some hardware. Vista is working great for the handful of people I know who are running it. The only problem I've had was with an _Apple_ iTunes update, and Service Pack 1 appears to have fixed it. So um, don't get a Creative sound card, don't put Vista on old hardware, and you should be good to go. And I routinely leave my Vista laptop at work running all week long without rebooting.
- rodrigo74, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4Wasn't Vista (as well as Mac OS) designed to be used and enjoyed by non-specialists as well? So why can't they say it sucks?
- brundlefly76, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3Vista has always been very stable for me - the only issues I have had were slow file transfers and issues with crowded wifi areas - which I am sure is a wifi chipset/driver issue, not a Vista issue. Right now I don't have any issues with Vista on either my desktop, or my two laptops, its great.
Oh well except gaming performance, but I have a beefy machine anyway so I don't notice it, but I know that if I benchmarked it it would be slower in gaming, which I admit is a raw deal for most users.
I cannot live without my sidebar though - sounds like a dumb little add-on but I use it constantly. I need to learn to write those apps because I could save myself a ton of websurfing every day monitoring internal website stats etc by keeping them monitored in sidebar. - 3leggedHorse, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2 I have not had any probs, and I've got different skins, deskscapes all kinds of ***** running with a 1.6 core duo and crappy nvidia GPU. But I also xp pro on another partition there still is software incompatibility probs.
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