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- scottinks, on 10/06/2008, -273/+1368I like Vista....there, I said it! I haven't had ANY problems with it.
Go ahead and digg me down...... - Narrwald, on 10/06/2008, -54/+485I'm with you. I've been using it for well over a year, and am entirely happy with it.
- Narrwald, on 10/06/2008, -88/+479Vista failed?
- bakkouz, on 10/06/2008, -38/+357From the comments:
5. Apple successfully demonized Vista
Yup. I'll give you that one. It is, however, interesting that Apple focused on what Vista's perceived faults were rather than what OSX could actually offer which in itself is a shame because OSX is a good OS.
4. Windows XP is too entrenched
The important questions here are:
1) Were previous versions of Windows as entrenched as XP? From your data you'll see that they were.
2) What was XP's adoption rate over a comparable period of time? You're quick to point out Vista's adoption rate but you seem to be missing XP's. Here's an article from Ed Bott giving some persepctive on your figures:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=352
3. Vista is too slow
On what basis do you make that statement? Your link is to a CNET article released in November 2007 which compares a Beta version of Vista SP1 to XP3. Extreme Tech's latest tests for gaming actually show Vista being as good or better than XP for gaming. I've got to say that's a pretty low blow.
Also, if we're talking SLOC it's worth pointing out that OS Leopard has about 40% lines than Vista. Not a commonly advertised fact.
2. There wasn't supposed to be a Vista
But there is and it works fine now. Perhaps you may wish to comment on the release cycles of other OS manufacturers?
1. It broke too much stuff
There were issues with Vista and it did piss a lot of people off. However, those have been largely fixed and a good number of the issues centred aound insufficient driver support rather than Vista itself.
Your summary states that there are no compelling reasons to upgrade and yet the reasons you give for upgrading from previous versions to XP are just as valid for upgrading from XP to Vista - it's a more stable and secure OS. You can't have it both ways.
I do appreciate the point about refresh cycles but that's business. Corporations are in the business of making money and that's why you have refresh cycles and why products have limited life spans. One buys a new car every three to five years, a new television every seven, a new house every ten or twenty. OS are no different, regardles of one's particular choice.
Because if we didn't then where would be the incentive to push things on, to add new features? What would be the point after all?
I take back the point about you hating MS though because as has been pointed out this is just a worm to pull people in and get the hit count up and who can blame you in this time of consolidation what with Valleywag and Gawker in general beign in a spot of bother. Well congratulations, I took the bait. That doesn't make your argument any better though. - revjustin2, on 10/06/2008, -40/+350Going to join in the "Vista is working fine for me" bandwagon.
- r0gue6, on 10/06/2008, -45/+242This is another one of those stupid "OMG VISTA FAILED" blogs.
It's simply not true.
Microsoft made huge amounts of money off of this operating system, is it as big a success as they wanted? No.
Is it a failure by any definition of the word? Hell no. - ErrorLoading, on 10/06/2008, -25/+165Then you're doing something wrong. People fail to realize a blue screen is a helpful tool that Windows provides when something else fails. If Windows failed, there would be no blue screen. Thank you, please drive through.
- MyNameIsGusto, on 10/06/2008, -17/+157Same. I'm running new hardware and have never had a single problem. Vista is great looking, fast as hell, and a pleasure to use. Jpkeisala didn't mention that he's rocking hardware from 2002.
- bluehouse, on 10/06/2008, -34/+172I'm with you too! Vista is not slow. Your computer is.
- brstilson, on 10/06/2008, -14/+122I have a friend who hates Vista. His Acer Laptop came with it. Well, one day he was having a problem and brought it over for me to fix it. After poking around for a few minutes, I noticed that he had installed a crapload of shady software, and his system tray had no less than two dozen icons in it at any given time.
I think the majority of the people who hate Vista or just Windows in general are people who can't be bothered with properly maintaining their systems, and above all, NOT INSTALLING BUTTLOADS OF SOFTWARE THEY DON'T NEED. The ONLY reason I think that these people love Macs so much when they switch over is because the sheer amount of crapware that would be sufficient to screw up their systems doesn't even exist. In my experience, Macs crash just about as much as PCs do when the amount of ***** they have on them is roughtly equal.
In other words, don't blame the OS when you are the one screwing your PC up. - renegadeafk, on 10/06/2008, -66/+162Vista is no slower than xp if you have a dual core and 2+ gigs of ram which can be had for like 400 dollars these days.
- Olfster, on 10/06/2008, -6/+98You meant Mojave right?
- dsmx, on 10/06/2008, -15/+96Which is exactly the problem most companies don't need a computer like that and nor do most home users as all they need to do is a bit of spreadsheet and word processing work with some web browsing. That's at most a 200 dollar PC and I fail to see why the people who defend vista can't see that.
- InJectaH, on 10/06/2008, -8/+88Never had a single problem with vista. Even my old programs work on it.
- ry4nsm1th, on 10/06/2008, -25/+91Vista was disappointing, yes. But certainly not a failure. Works fine for me and always did.
- kotatsu, on 10/06/2008, -32/+94Vista is a failure? It's shipped on millions of new PCs and runs without a hitch, it's far more secure than XP, it looks much nicer than XP, and erm... it works just fine.
The way people bash Vista is really quite pathetic. It's a working, mature, perfectly sensible operating system. There's nothing to see here, move along. - ErrorLoading, on 10/06/2008, -17/+75As a System Administrator, let me say Vista is hardly a failure for me. I love it.
Granted we do have quite a few machines that are too old to be running Vista, yet, but they are content with XP for now. The extra group policy options are fantastic.
There is more to an OS than the color of the start bar, people. - thomsonr, on 10/06/2008, -12/+70I have Vista on all the computers at home and also here on my Engineering workstation at work. I'd never go back to XP.
Despite a few pre SP1 problem I find it extremely stable with the 2008 Kernel. Very little or no problems here. - KingFog, on 10/06/2008, -4/+60legendxx isn't the whole ethos behind buying Mac OSX that it just works?
- dampeal, on 10/06/2008, -13/+67Word of mouth or the internet is the prime reason it failed.. I know many people who have never tried Vista but yet tell me how much it sucks! How the hell can you know something is bad if you've never used it?! Oh because they read or heard from someone that it was bad. I use Vista Ultimatex64 and I will never go back to XP, I've still got XP installed on a another HDD, switching between Vista and XP is like going from XP to Win98, Vista is so much better overall, yes it took a while to get the bugs worked out, but it did with XP as well.. when I first got XP most of my hardware didn't work at all, everything I have works perfectly with Vista... Companies have supported Vista better than they did with XP, at least that's though my experiences...
- InorganicMatter, on 10/06/2008, -7/+56Vista is great. My only complaint thus far: they made "Network Connections" many clicks deeper than it used to be. In XP, there was an option to put it in the Start Menu, giving:
Start > Networks > View Connections
Now, I have to do this:
Start > right-click Network > Network and Sharing Center > wait for it to complete the 5-second hang > View All Connections - Coreal07, on 10/06/2008, -16/+61This article is just ignorant.
Just like the majority of the people that jump on the "Vista Sucks" bandwagon. - hawksfan03, on 10/06/2008, -17/+593. Vista is too slow
If you are using a computer that is more than 2 years old this is probably true. I am using Vista on a 2.4 ghz p4 with 1.5 GB of ram and I have no problems. Any computer with a dual core and 2 GB+ of ram will run Vista fine. - Coreal07, on 10/06/2008, -11/+52I agree, I'm actually a little pissed that Microsoft is giving up on Vista before I am. I'm a fan so far... I have a VM on my MBP.
- Persian5Life, on 10/06/2008, -7/+42if only i can digg you twice, apple propaganda dose not seem to have corrupted you yet.
- MRintheKeys, on 10/06/2008, -2/+35Then maybe people need to research things a little bit before they just rush out and buy the latest software.
- datdamonfoo, on 10/06/2008, -3/+36@legendexx
Entirely incorrect. Windows has shadow copy and system restore. - InJectaH, on 10/06/2008, -8/+40Uninstall your previous drivers, Download Vista drivers. Viola.
- cloudberries, on 10/06/2008, -4/+36I haven't had a single blue screen on Vista in the year-or-so I've been using it, pretty intensively.
It rarely crashes, although is getting a bit bloaty now, mostly due to all the crap I've been installing on it. A spring clean may be in order. - inactive, on 10/06/2008, -2/+33Whenever I see my friends' taskbars, they are always full of total *****. Weatherbug? Do you really need flames on your mouse pointer that report your surfing habits? I try to educate, but to no avail, they continue to install Google Toolbar so they can search without going to Google, they don't care that their browser has it built in, they need that damned toolbar! I've seen friends that have literally 6 toolbars and wonder why it takes 6 minutes for their browser to load. And as far as Macs go, they crash all the time. Every time I log onto Digg, Mac is releasing an update to fix bugs. Vista is not the problem. No one who knows anything about how to safely use a computer has a problem with it. The only people hating on it are Mac and Linux fanboys. They like to keep the myth alive so maybe they can get some market share. To Mac: If you want people to switch, stop this "cooler people use Macs" ads *****. Whenever I see someone with a Mac I automatically assume they are a conceited douche, who paid extra for the same hardware just to be "hip." To Linux: stop saying Linux is as easy to use as OSX or Windows. If you know how to install programs on Linux, it's no problem, but it can be very tough to learn. I don't understand why they just don't have a normal double-click install file. If they could do that, Linux would double its user base in no time. Vista is fine, no one that uses it has any problems. And Vista has not failed, it still is on many more PC's than OSX or any Linux distro, so buried as inaccurate.
- ErrorLoading, on 10/06/2008, -5/+36Have a talk with your printer manufacturer about that one. If they fail to make a working driver for Vista, how is that MS's problem?
- FredFredrickson, on 10/06/2008, -5/+35Try telling that to companies who outfit their users with Mac Pros just for office work.
- kmoed, on 10/06/2008, -10/+38Running Vista Ultimate 64bit just fine for the last year and a half. In fact it is the most stable OS I have ever had.
XP was a complete mess when it was released, far worse then Vista.
But to each there own. Use what works for you. I'm sure MS would be far more concerned if people were using things other then MS products.
If people think that Windows 7 is going to be some sort of revolution, They will be in for a shock. It's a lot more Vista then it is XP. - hantata, on 10/06/2008, -35/+63The top reason has to be that I still haven't managed to get it working with my printer!!
- Trixrox, on 10/06/2008, -6/+34Vista failed? Yeah...right. I agree with the first comment.
- BOFH2, on 10/06/2008, -4/+31If you bought an upgrade for your car but did not research if the upgrade would fit on your car or the new upgrade caused a different component not to work(research failure again) would you blame the manufacturer of the upgrade or yourself for not taking the time before and after?
- cmaxster, on 10/06/2008, -7/+32I'm a PC
- digginamish, on 10/06/2008, -4/+28So, if Vista is at only 17% and OSX is raging all the way up to 8.5% then of course Vista is a failure!
- rpeters, on 10/06/2008, -1/+25i completely agree. I've never installed crapware and my Vista machine runs like a champ!
- jakem1, on 10/06/2008, -3/+26@legendexx: Last time I checked I couldn't get a new Windows kernel or driver model on sourceforge.
Those of you digging datdamonfoo down are also wrong. Shadow Copy and System Restore do provide the tools needed to replicate Time Machine functionality without a pretty interface. For a product that blows Time Machine away I suggest that you look into Windows Home Server. - KaiUno, on 10/06/2008, -1/+23Which is not very far then.
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -3/+25I'm not terribly thrilled with the amount of resources Vista chews up, but even so I've never had issues with it. My main gripe is that I dislike bloatware on principle.
- Hydraulix, on 10/06/2008, -7/+296. Don't forget that the whole interface has changed. Not a big deal for the IT savvy crowd. But, try telling that to the mom's and dad's, that just spent the last 5 years learning how to navigate in XP.
- coyote1284, on 10/06/2008, -2/+24Agreed.
Hey, Mac! Guess what, you are a Personal Computer, too! - Lionhart, on 10/06/2008, -1/+20my laptop is a Mac but I have vista on my desktop. I still prefer OS X but really haven't had any problems with Vista.
- daivos, on 10/06/2008, -13/+32Um...you missed one. Price anyone?
Why should I pay money for a new OS when, A) others are free and B) I already own XP which doesn't suffer from all the other issues already listed.
When it all comes down to it, I don't really need it. And for $100 - $300.00, I really don't need it. And for people with multiple computers, I imagine the decision is that much easier. - finn, on 10/06/2008, -5/+24likewise, I've used it (Vista) since launch and I've had zero problems (due to IT anyway).. and I concur, I like it.
and yeah, too many people i've seen LOVE blaming the operating system when it's really user error.. computers are far from being fool-proof. - rpeters, on 10/06/2008, -1/+18I kept having BSOD's when my HDD was failing. A new drive fixed that though.
- ifruit, on 10/06/2008, -9/+26After you do the the "Top 10 Vista tweaks" it's a fabulous OS
- zimsters, on 10/06/2008, -6/+23ok so hang on, a 12-15% market share of vista is failed, whereas a 5% apple market share is elite?
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