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- estvir, on 05/09/2008, -24/+142What a stupid article.
Oh no, you can't downgrade to IE6, boo-freaking-hoo. You guys and ComputerWorld (What a joke of a website) so pathetic and desperate for anti-'M$' news. - lucidguru, on 05/09/2008, -21/+137Does anyone actually use IE6 anymore?
- neodude237, on 05/09/2008, -8/+97Or I could just use Firefox, and not have to worry about it.
- Phil13, on 05/09/2008, -10/+93Good, ***** IE6. At least IE7 is somewhat more tolerant of good code. Easier and faster to get 7 behaving than it is 6.
- bobbyschultz, on 05/09/2008, -19/+98Does anyone actually use IE anymore?
Firefox = Win - aznhomig, on 05/09/2008, -4/+56Oh no, I can't go back to IE6 spyware rapage! :(
- faceless323, on 05/09/2008, -3/+52i still use it at work...we use proprietary software that implodes with IE7 and firefox.
- bwdd, on 05/09/2008, -3/+44Oh no!
Now web designers will have an easier job! *****' Microsoft. - misterjangles, on 05/09/2008, -3/+43Please for the love of god - everybody install SP3 and we can be rid of IE 6 forever!
- xerodustrial, on 05/09/2008, -11/+47As long as this doesn't effect my ability to use FireFox for pretty much everything I do on the net, I don't really see what the big deal is. IE7, while a pile of *****, is no more or less a pile of ***** than IE6 was, but is slightly more secure.
Is this the only issue of contention with SP3, or are there others like this? - MalDON, on 05/09/2008, -1/+29This is make a lot of developers happy though. I have wasted may hours writing css hacks just for IE 6.
- TheGuruStud, on 05/09/2008, -9/+35pretty lame stuff then, huh?
- dmkemick, on 05/09/2008, -3/+29Who is actually still using IE6 and bummed that they can't use it on SP3? Seriously. If you don't like IE you're using Firefox and don't care, if you DO like IE 7 is better than 6 so...
- whataboutdave, on 05/09/2008, -5/+30If you can't install Firefox because of admin privileges, IE7 is worlds better than IE6.
- travis6690, on 05/09/2008, -7/+32*ahem*
So? - zonk3r, on 05/09/2008, -0/+21Article description is inaccurate. You can go "forward" with IE 8 beta. You just have to install IE 8 beta AFTER you install SP3.
- ctonks, on 05/09/2008, -1/+21or you could use FF portable - then you don't need to install it as an admin.
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- cyberwiz01, on 05/09/2008, -17/+36Yeah seriously, why would someone want to go back to IE6?
- jebaird, on 05/09/2008, -0/+17same here i have to test all my sites in ie6 because most of my clients still use ie6
- krystalo, on 05/09/2008, -5/+22Actually, they said it a few days ago (before xp sp3 was released). Computerworld is just slow, this is old news.
- MrTito, on 05/09/2008, -1/+17To top it off, the article contradicts the headline...
"Users who want to retain the ability to downgrade from IE7 to IE6 should uninstall the former before upgrading to XP SP3. Once Windows XP has been updated to SP3, users can then install IE7. That process allows for reverting to IE6 in the future."
So, uninstall IE7, install SP3, the re-install IE7 and you can still downgrade. Sounds like a pain, but it shows that SP3 doesn't "lock-in" IE7. - dvsbastard, on 05/09/2008, -1/+17About 30% of users according to W3Schools site statistics...
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.a ...
I'd say that is a pretty significant number... - fkr3, on 05/09/2008, -2/+17Not in the world according to digg, where nobody uses Vista, nobody uses IE, nobody watches TV, nobody goes to the movies, nobody reads the newspaper etcetera. They were going to make a movie about it at one stage, then they realised it was just too far fetched even for a work of fiction.
- craighamnett, on 05/09/2008, -0/+14IE7 > IE6... we've been complaining that IE6 should be banned for sometime now, I don't see a reason for a backlash, this is good news. This makes life better for us web designers. It doesn't prevent people from installing FF or Opera, so this is a step forward.
- RogerStrong, on 05/09/2008, -1/+13Not being able to go back to a SEVEN-YEAR-OLD browser is a lock-in? C'mon, be serious. Nothing says you can't use FireFox, Safari, Opera or any other browser. Nothing says you can't use IE8 when it's released.
- krystalo, on 05/09/2008, -2/+14Apr 29: SP3 unofficially released, http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080429-micr ...
May 5: IE story, http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2008 ...
May 6: SP3 officially released, http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2008 ...
You'll notice that I'm an OMW fanboy :P They just started putting out a lot of good content. putergirl you may want to start watching their feed: http://feeds.arstechnica.com/arstechnica/journals/ ... (shameless plug) :D - GRTWHT, on 05/09/2008, -10/+22I wouldn't want to uninstall IE7 (unless it meant I could uninstall IE entirely), but this is exactly why I plan to wait a bit before I apply SP3 to my personal system. Too typical of Microsoft to add a stealth install/change/uninstall that only comes to light after people start having problems and complaining loudly and publicly.
- Ocelot13, on 05/09/2008, -1/+12we have a class 4 schizo over here
- altgeeky1, on 05/09/2008, -0/+11You would be surprised... MANY corporations paid good money for "works on IE only" corporate infrastructure... these things break under FireFox (and IE 7)
- michelspc, on 05/09/2008, -1/+12Since IE 6 has been around for so long, many business intranet sites have web apps designed only for IE 6. In most situations, keeping IE 6 around is cheaper than upgrading your machines and recoding the site. Believe it or not there are still organizations that are standardized on Windows 2000 Professional. The newest version of IE W2K can run is IE 6.
- RudeTurnip, on 05/09/2008, -0/+11I had to stick to IE6 at work up until a little while ago because the Thomson ONE Banker service didn't work properly with IE7. Since we pay for the service, being able to use it had more priority over upgrading to IE7. Now, the site works great with IE7.
- inactive, on 05/09/2008, -0/+11At many companies, they still don't trust IE7 although it's much better than IE6 security-wise and it's better at rendering some pages. Firefox 3 pwns both of them, but that goes without saying.
In short, I agree. IE6 must die. - patpl22391, on 05/09/2008, -1/+12I use Firefox by default, but occasionally I get a website that firefox for some reason won't load correctly, or something is broken, so I use IE and it works.
- whiteguysamurai, on 05/09/2008, -1/+12Only 99.9% of the world.
- Atomic1fire, on 05/09/2008, -0/+10This is a good thing webdev wise
- soopafly, on 05/09/2008, -7/+17¡¡¡ǝldoǝd ƃuıɥʇ pooƃ ɐ sı sıɥʇ
- jer2eydevil88, on 05/09/2008, -0/+10Ladies and Gentlemen who are forced to use IE 6 because of company policy and legacy apps at work I introduce you to a whole new world.
http://portableapps.com/ - ctonks, on 05/09/2008, -4/+14well MS is doing you a favor then. when they all update to SP3 you won't have to test in ie6.
- grumpyrain, on 05/09/2008, -0/+9Call for dig1x - it's your mother. You left your sarcasm detector at home.
- xenuxenuts, on 05/09/2008, -1/+10There are some corporate web based programs that require IE and some of them don't work with IE7 yet. I wouldn't design it that way, but the truth is the truth. If someone doesn't have a compatibility issue, I see no reason for anyone to stick with IE6. For me, the ieview plugin for firefox is the only way IE sees any action.
- WoollyMittens, on 05/09/2008, -1/+10As a web-developer I can only cheer this on, but I know it'll never ever happen. People don't update anything. We'll be stuck with that excuse for a browser for years to come yet.
- PueSi, on 05/09/2008, -0/+9Yeah that's how I'm able to use GIMP and Firefox on my work's Vista box.
http://www.portableapps.com - suriyou, on 05/09/2008, -3/+11You just had to be the guy, didn't you?
- krystalo, on 05/09/2008, -4/+12Actually that should be http://feeds.arstechnica.com/arstechnica/journals/ ... (I hate digg's comment system)
- hokie47, on 05/09/2008, -1/+9I have it at work still. I keep it around to still test if my web pages work in it. I wish it would just die.
- trogdoor, on 05/09/2008, -0/+8Why would he need to install IE7? Unless his admins depend on IE6 for in house hacks they probably installed IE7 for him.
- harvested, on 05/09/2008, -1/+8It's good because it'll start to phase out IE6 (about time).
Developers can just use a stand alone version to test sites in. - grumpyrain, on 05/09/2008, -0/+7Mine does, do you see the .... , hmmm nevermind, my keyboard was upside down.
- ucg1, on 05/09/2008, -0/+6Anyone who cares is probably using Firefox, Safari or Opera
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