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- NotACYBORG, on 10/03/2008, -1/+41He said they would introduce it, not release it. Two very different things.
- webkami, on 10/02/2008, -11/+49I predict it would also act funny. Just like all the ancestors.
- vanjab, on 10/02/2008, -3/+28This isn't the first we've heard of windows cloud computing. This probably means we'll have more things to play with on Windows Live Mesh.
- batmanz, on 10/03/2008, -7/+27Yeah, because Apple clearly invented cloud computing.
/sarcasm. - Dylson, on 10/03/2008, -4/+22Spoken like a true idiot trying to make an irrelevant connection.
- fr34k5h0w, on 10/02/2008, -4/+21What is he talking about with there being no public beta of Live Mesh? I'm using the Mesh beta right now. Granted all there is is the file sync, but MS even said it's a reference model. Anyone with Windows computers can use the add-on to sync multiple machines. This article smells of sensationalism.
- LMN8R, on 10/03/2008, -4/+21I've been using Vista since last year and am pretty happy with it, but upgrading to a new OS or upgrading anything at all has absolutely jack ***** to do with Windows Cloud.
- LMN8R, on 10/03/2008, -3/+19Comparing Microsoft's initiative with Apple's Mobile Me isn't just wrong on a shallow level, it represents a complete, fundamental lack of knowledge surrounding even the most basic idea of what each company is trying to do.
- badwithcomputer, on 10/02/2008, -1/+12clouds are think?
- LMN8R, on 10/03/2008, -0/+10File sync and an amazing remote desktop implementation that works regardless of port forwarding setup.
I spent at least an hour messing with my router trying to forward the right ports for standard remote desktop, and couldn't get it working thanks to my apartment having a messed up internal network.
I connected the two computers to my Live Mesh instead, literally clicked one button, and it worked instantly. - newbill123, on 10/03/2008, -2/+12For those not familiar with Apple's "Mobile Me", it's Apple's cloud-based consumer services (with a cloud icon to tip off those non-geeks). It was the sucessor to "Dot Mac" that's been around for a few years, but Mobile Me has had months of problems after it was hastily deployed in a very short (matter of weeks) timeframe.
So though MS may have its long term goal of leveraging it's OS Monopoly to compete with Google's Cloud-based services, if this is just weeks away, I can't foresee this as its "Live Mesh" debut, but simply a "Mobile Me, Too!" to go after Apple's low hanging fruit to start with. - acceleriter, on 10/03/2008, -3/+13Blue Cloud of Death
- inactive, on 10/02/2008, -14/+23More like "Windows Vapor". Five years from not it'll get to market and it'll just be Vista with a different theme and some shortcuts to Hotmail and Windows Live on the desktop.
- Murdats, on 10/03/2008, -10/+19why should I buy a new car when my 80 year old crank car gets me a around just fine.
why should I upgrade my screen when my 8" crt works just fine.
why should I upgrade my phone when my morse code tapper works just fine. - expert01, on 10/03/2008, -0/+7The end of the article is where I realized that the author is full of *****. The part where they say "most developers think the idea (of a WebOS) is preposterous" and link to one article with some crappily drawn pictures and some runaround logic about how he would have to run windows in a VM to run a google OS (as if they would never have it on a linux platform) and claims that because of that it's all a load of *****.
Web developers, and I imagine quite a few desktop developers, have seen an inevitable shift towards the internet for programs. It's already happened with email (most users are using online email services). Once some killer apps get out, corporations are going to realize they can have all their employees use the online apps for their daily work, which means they won't have to update extra software on each machine, they won't have to troubleshoot as many programs, all the documents will be stored centrally and readily available (and more secure, you would have to print a copy to take it with you since it's online)... there's just a lot of benefits.
Hell, I prefer it in every way. Have my important docs available anywhere I go, and instead of having a bunch of personal files and extra crapware programs on my machine, I can have my browser and games. - anksrivastava, on 10/02/2008, -11/+18I am happy with Windows XP. Why should I upgrade so often if my job can be done by old hardware.
- nimadude, on 10/03/2008, -0/+6For this to make sense, you know what we need? DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS.......DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS *sweats* DEVELOPERS DEvelopers.... developers!!!!!! WWOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
- lucy22, on 10/02/2008, -2/+8" smells funny", hmmmmmm.
- GoldenChaos, on 10/03/2008, -4/+10Honestly, I never thought I'd see the day when us up-to-date internet users have turned into old conservative farts unwilling to try new software. But here it is.
- Atomic1fire, on 10/03/2008, -2/+7mobile me =/ windows cloud
Windows cloud is an OS
mobile me is a service - ElBeh, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
- element1ne, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4Smells like fish but tastes like chicken
- bpmox, on 10/03/2008, -4/+8why is he being modded up? those aren't apt analogies. Each of those things offers clear advantages over it's predecessor. More appropriate would be why upgrade my 19 inch to a 19.5 inch if there is a substantial cost... well does the cost outweigh the benefits?
- BugMeNot2, on 10/03/2008, -1/+5Like go-kart
- poponegra, on 10/03/2008, -2/+6That's what she said.
- anagoge, on 10/03/2008, -2/+6"Ballmer went on to describe how there are nowhere near enough developers developers developers developers."
- Onwlyix, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3I like the part when he said "Developers"
- nrox653, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3Okay... That was unexpected.
- JakeW, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4When that "software" costs hundreds of dollars to "try" I believe it's been around for a while.
- randomstupid, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3Microsoft - adapt or die
looks like they're trying to adapt - freesf, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3This are very interesting news... netbooks could use a OS that it's tightly integrated with the cloud. I'm looking forward to see what they come up with... hopefully is something dramatically cool, which I dought from Microsoft. Also, it will be great if the Apple fanboys and Linux geeks will stop sharing their stupid comments and contribute something more intelligent worth reading
- tama00, on 10/03/2008, -3/+6Microsoft has never brought a linux distro (i dont know how or why they would) they did develop their own Unix-like OS though along time ago. Mac never repackaged FreeBSD. They brought a clone of freeBSD called nexStep (i think) and developed that into Darwin.
FreeBSD, NexStep, Darwin, Linux, Solaris you name it are all variants of the original Unix.
And dont get so smart. Microsoft used BSD code within their tcp/ip stack for Windows! So technically Microsoft just repackaged BSD in tcp/ip. - inactive, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3Because the cloud is an underperformer if you do ANY media content creation. You will NOT be able to edit video, or massive images in real time for example like I can do right now on my Macbook. What good does more layers of abstraction and running my apps on unsecure, slow, shared hardware in a limited browser environment do for me? Answer zero! This is just a boondogle like the much hyped "thin clients," and "push internet" from the mid 90s (look at back issues of Wired to see what I mean), and I predict it will die the same ugly death, hopefully taking Microsoft down with it.
- benologist, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4Amazon just announced they either have or will shortly have Windows available on their EC2 as well.
- db0255, on 10/02/2008, -7/+10Acid rain??!
- redwallhp, on 10/03/2008, -2/+5We all know Al Gore invented cloud computing. Geez, n00bs...
- Myztry, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4Xbox: DirectX was an acquisition. DOS was acquired. NT kernel was the continuation of IBM/Microsoft OS/2. The console itself is the poaching of markets which Microsoft had no involvement in building...
Surface, Photosynth are takes on old commercially infeasible ideas. Not new by any means, but toys for a company not reliant on the revenue.
Visual Studio passes the litmus, not due to originality but commitment. Developer tools is where Microsoft got it's start, even it that meant basic interpreters. Probably their only true base product.
Sure there R&D has lot of things they play with, with the fact remains the cherries are usually plucked from outside their garden. - jer2eydevil88, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4We have been using Amazon S3 as the storage platform of a new social networking site geared toward a niche market. Its cheap, its scalable, its awesome. Microsoft will have to jump a whole lot further than "Windows" with its Cloud platform for it to provide a solution to a problem. As far as I know not many people are looking for another way to use Windows in their life... they are jumping to other platforms in droves.
- whahaa, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3you can't paint flames on a cloud.
- la7crosse11, on 10/03/2008, -2/+5Chocolate Rain??!
- gilbert2048, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2maybe its a cluster type thing...but no idea why you would ever want to run a windows cluster....
- inactive, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Strawman!
- superjamie, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Linux is not a UNIX variant, it's a Unix-like. It does not conform to a UNIX Specification.
Microsoft may have not developed their own Linux distro, but they've definitely bought at least one company who were actively writing a distro at the time of takeover. - Lunarbunny, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Windows 7 is supposed to start integrating with the so-called "cloud" via Live.
- grumpyrain, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3The tcp/ip stack in Vista / 2008 Server was rewritten so it is not technically repackaged BSD anymore ;)
- MrSquirrel, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3Golden showers??!
- fokov, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2If you can do you job and everything you want to do on your current operating system and the feature list of the new ones doesn't trump the list of disadvantages, then do not change. I used vista since Beta and was always happy with it, but the hardware it was on was a beast and a half. Dual Xeon 5130s, 8 gb ram, etc. Basically a server but used as a dev machine. My home computer runs xp x64 and will stay that way because it only has 2 gb of ram.
- dafragsta, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
- SanTe, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3Haha! It's just not the same without the visuals though...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE
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