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- Nobiting, on 10/12/2007, -19/+109Microsoft has finally decided that they will never create a functional and unique browser and thus all new versions of Windows will ship with FireFox!
- bhavi, on 10/12/2007, -15/+87And all versions of Firefox should ship with AdBlock Plus
- armbar, on 10/12/2007, -8/+70No worries; it'll be another 6 years before IE8 is completed.
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -5/+53no ActiveX would be a good start...
- Gooie, on 10/12/2007, -16/+61The only people who use IE anymore are people unaware of Firefox.
- SomaSynth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33"And all versions of Firefox should ship with AdBlock Plus"
Be careful what you wish for. I don't think that's ever going to happen, for ridiculously obvious reasons. - johnbellone, on 10/12/2007, -9/+39A copy in what sense? That they have tabs? That they are trying to fix their browser engines? News flash: Firefox isn't 100% CSS compliant and didn't invent tabbed browsing.
- Simplogic, on 10/12/2007, -10/+40*****. I thought maybe they would've learned something from their past IE blunders... KIDDING! We all know Microsoft learns nothing from past mistakes.
- benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30"The new version may also include more options for user interface customization, as that was one of the biggest criticisms of IE 7, and one which the developers often blamed on lack of time. "
Lack of time?
WHAT THE *****?!?!? - nymphetamine, on 10/12/2007, -9/+35...or Opera.
- tech10171968, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30"But before firefox gained the market share it currently holds (think 2001-2), tabbed browsing was mostly unheard of and IE was the only browser (and that is IE6 too)."
Wrong, for two reasons:
(1) Tabbed browsing was not "unheard of" before Firefox. Opera had tabbed browsing. In fact, it was the *first* browser with tabs;
(2) IE was _not_ the only browser. Opera started before Firefox was just a gleam in Mozilla's eye.
In fact, many features that are considered standard in modern browsers originated with the Opera browser. the only reason it isn't more wodely used is because, until a year or two ago, you actually had to pay for it. That was probably not wise because Opera has never recovered from that mistake. - consonance, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27Internet Explorer 8: Almost standards compliant!
- troydoogle7, on 10/12/2007, -11/+35A MS developer was whispering that they were looking forward to firefox 3 and opera 10 to find out what new features ie8 would be able to knock off badly....
oh yeah and it will pass the acid 2 test (microsofts internal one.....) - johnbellone, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31Not sure why any of your are advocating for Microsoft to drop the browser. Competition is (and always be) a good thing for both Microsoft and Mozilla. As a web developer I am hoping that Microsoft gets their rendering engine up to par (its getting better there's no denying that) so that those little hacks won't have to be done anymore. I use Firefox whenever I get the chance but when building websites you need to make sure that all of your community has a working product.
- meshman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26What?! I haven't finished the freaking IE7 upgrades yet.
- GTanaka, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23Security matter or not, ActiveX is just a plain annoyance. I for one would be happy to do without.
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -11/+29Just download a Firefox 3.x alpha if you want a preview of IE8.
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21Firefox is never going to ship with Adblock. Firefox is funded almost entirely by Google. Google don't fund it for a giggle, they pay to be the default browser so when people search it's through Google and accompanied with advertisements.
Adblock isn't just a threat to the sites you use, it's a threat to the browser you use too. - Thex1138, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Proves once again that Microsoft are reactive not proactive.
- tech10171968, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16How? Simple: if Firefox had not come onto the scene and started stealing marketshare from IE, do you think there would even be an IE7? At the time, IE was being used by more than 95% of the world: Microsoft saw no need to be innovative and improve the browser. IE7 came into existence only because Firefox lit a fire under their a$$es to get up and do something.
- avasol, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22Meet the new Explorer. Same as the old one.
- SavageBlackCat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17How can they focus on IE8 when IE7 is so jacked up?
- Gizza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Actually, he is correct. If you use Opera or any other browser, there's a good chance that you're not unaware of Firefox, so his statement still holds true.
"Nobody can use the Internet and be unaware of Firefox after 4 years of constant, widespread spam and propaganda about it being posted everywhere."
You could not be more wrong. Just because people like us who are on the Internet for about 26 hours a day and see Firefox everywhere doesn't mean everyone will know about it. I know plenty of people who don't know about it, even after I've told them about it, they're still to computer illiterate to understand. - sdcarter, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17IE7 - Tabs
IE7.? - COLORED TABS & THEMES
IE8 - A red button that closes all the pop-ups that get past it's "security features"
IE9 - Whatever Mozilla comes up with beforehand
IE10+ - Whatever Opera comes up with beforehand because the folks at Msoft are finally tired of being compared to Mozilla and want to try something "different" - benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16What unwanted additions does IE7 have aside from the stupid WGA check when you install it.
- supersaw, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I'm running 2.0.0.3 I'm already previewing IE8
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12At least they didn't say lack of funds.
"We need $2 billion more to make a browser. Why? Umm... high oil prices?" - jmgtan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13now we'll have to invent a new set of css hacks!!
- chrisbarr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Yeh, tell me about it. TIme to make IE7 or 8 a mandatory upgrade so that everyone gets on it. Why IE5 is still being used by some people is beyond me.....and IE6. UPDATE people!!
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10[quote]Funny. I use IE7 on all my computers, and have FF2 as well. IE7 never shows me any unwanted popups. FF2 does.[/quote]
You aren't fibbing, are you? That wouldn't be very nice. - dellis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Digg this ***** up. Microsoft needs to take their current crop of UI designers, take them out back, and shoot them all.
- chewy5000, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16but IE6 is better than IE7 believe it or not
- BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Hi, I think you might have mistaken digg.com for "habbo hotel".
Took a wrong turn at AOL chat, eh? - subxero37, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12It shouldn't *have* to -- look at Firefox, it runs as a normal, same-privilege program with the same credentials as the user who spawned it. Microsoft shouldn't have to tweak a ton of crap to get security to be ... secure. They should just fix it as it is, not find more workarounds.
If the problem is ActiveX, they could at least rewrite parts of the COM/ActiveX code, rather than just leaving old unpatched code in the OS. - adragons, on 10/12/2007, -17/+26@KuntaKinte
Why would they do that? They still have the majority - Projektorboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"WHAT THE *****"
I said the same thing my friend. IE6 came out in August 2001. IE7 came out in October 2006. When your devs are used to a 5+ year dev cycle between releases I guess 18 months really is too much to ask. - aspoon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I don't understand why you guys complain about IE8 not being standard compliant. Every MS product is standard compliant -- MS's OWN standard. It's the rest of the world that's not following the one, true standard.
Now only if every OS out there implements UAC... ARGH! - fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Yes ... like last time. I mean, IE 7 is slower and chews more memory than Firefox 2. And it has a long history of memory leak/retention issues.
Or something. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Ugh.. i finally tried IE7 because we got the upgrade from 6 for it at work. I went nuts with what they did to the top bar... Moving the Stop and Refresh buttons to the right of the address bar and made the buttons really small too.
Also more annoying was moving the File Tools Help etc.. main toolbar which is usually at the very top, i couldn't believe they moved it BELOW the address bar.. it looks retarded. I moved it back to where it belongs with a simple and handy registry change. Even the Tabs in IE7 feel weird. - sid0, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@TexanPsycho: So my computer is crappy (and it is). Should I change my computer or should I change my browser?
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7[quote]It shouldn't *have* to -- look at Firefox, it runs as a normal, same-privilege program with the same credentials as the user who spawned it.[/quote]
It's also CROSS-PLATFORM, can run as a self-contained portable app off a USB key, and has great expansion capabilities.
IE has absolutely nothing on that, no matter how close it's performance may be to Firefox. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10It will be just as crappy as ever. Firefox rocks.
- polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Maybe they'll try that whole web standards compliant thing..........
- techAU, on 10/23/2008, -0/+6Last year at techEd Microsoft was talking about reducing the development cycle of IE and had mentioned then that they were aiming for a 12-18 month development cycle.
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7If you use any forum, blog, message board, mailing list or anything where people are able to post messages, you've likely heard of Firefox.
Try these google searches ...
+"pet forum" +"get firefox" returns 92 results.
+"parenting forum" +"get firefox" returns 134 results.
+"car forum" +"get firefox" returns 1160 results
+"health blog" +"get firefox" returns 2750 results
This is far from a conclusive test, but none of those genres have anything at all to do with web development or IT. Firefox has been mentioned pretty much anywhere that allows users to post messages. - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7They need to let IE 6 die first... I'd rather not learn a third set of hacks to get all three to render the page properly.
- Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9your forgetting, the people who click links like "How to ad 30" to your penis"
and "get rich just by clicking this" are primarily IE users
who then call up MS (or other companies) and say
"your crappy software got me all infected and stuff and you suck and fix it now"
basically MS has to make their software retard proof*10 (cause the universe just keeps building bigger and better idiots) - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Too late to shoot Vista's UI designer, he already quit:
http://digg.com/microsoft/Vista_UI_Designer_Quits - Cherubim, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9IE7 is just as bad as IE6. Standards compliance is woeful with the browser still susceptible to malware alttacks on a large scale. Only a moron who doesn't value their privacy would use IE7 over Firefox.
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