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- asteron, on 07/12/2008, -20/+226Sounds good. Obscuring the identity of urls is horrible both for user experience and from a security standpoint.
If tinyurl were responsible and banned links to known malicious sites I would have more sympathy for them. - poidh, on 07/12/2008, -3/+119But, how is anyone going to be rickrolled nowadays without tinyurl?
- dougvfr750, on 07/11/2008, -11/+1143rd party partner... are these the same guys that Sony used for rootkits?
- jakbrud, on 07/12/2008, -3/+87As of 4:00pm PDT, TinyURL.com was unblocked from Windows Live Messenger.
- Jeremyz0r, on 07/12/2008, -5/+74Isn't it ironic that you have to pirate Sony CD Albums just so you don't get malware on your PC?
- PL3NTY, on 07/12/2008, -1/+63Update: From a Microsoft spokesperson "...This URL is being blocked unintentionally and we are working to take the appropriate steps to remedy the situation as quickly as possible. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience and disruption this may be causing our customers."
As of 4:00pm PDT, TinyURL.com was unblocked from Windows Live Messenger. - KingFog, on 07/12/2008, -0/+62No one falls for the uuiU address anymore! Everyone knows it now...
- Carv, on 07/12/2008, -2/+63They were just angry about getting Rickroll'd with it so much.
- Azio, on 07/12/2008, -5/+59People use MSN because it's a good, reliable IM service with lots of features and a mediocre but tolerable client. Everyone shied away from AIM a few years back because AOL decided to bundle adware with it and it became a bloated piece of *****. With ICQ you have to remember a ridiculous number, instead of just using your email address. iChat is Mac only; if Apple really wanted it to be popular they would port it for Windows, like they did with Safari and iTunes. Google Talk has like no features. I could go on.
MSN's popularity is entirely the result of market forces. Microsoft has done nothing underhanded or sneaky to make it popular. In fact, it doesn't even come preinstalled with Windows anymore. You have to go download it. But apparently it is impossible for Microsoft to do anything right without being perceived as an evil monopolistic trap. If you really hate MSN that much but all your friends use it, go download some third party client and stop crying. - PL3NTY, on 07/12/2008, -2/+46Update: From a Microsoft spokesperson "...This URL is being blocked unintentionally and we are working to take the appropriate steps to remedy the situation as quickly as possible. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience and disruption this may be causing our customers."
As of 4:00pm PDT, TinyURL.com was unblocked from Windows Live Messenger. - sjorsvb, on 07/12/2008, -8/+48No more being rick'rolld on MSN woohoo!
- techblogLAT, on 07/11/2008, -14/+49Why would Microsoft keep banning links from its instant messenger? It doesn't make sense. Are they looking for bad press?
- r3zonance, on 07/12/2008, -2/+27They're banning tinyurl because it allows you to mask the actual destination URL.
It's simply a preventative security measure (and a good one too).
At the moment say to someone, hey go here for some cool software, redirect them somewhere completely different and pwn their machine.
Seems bloody obvious to me, take off your tin foil hats, and stop hating so much. - manitoba98xp, on 07/12/2008, -2/+24Just add "preview." to the domain and you can see what URL it's about to redirect you to. Great feature.
- NikkiA, on 07/12/2008, -0/+20Or turn on 'preview mode' for your browser at tinyurl's site.
I will agree that preview mode should be enabled by default though, its too easy for people to use tinyurl for wrongdoing.
What worries me more than tinyurl being banned on MSN, however, is that it might lead to awurl being banned - which is a fair more useful service that I frequently use, unfortunately though awurl has the same drawbacks as tinyurl in terms of hiding 'evil' content. - totorototoro, on 07/12/2008, -0/+18Except Microsoft said it was unintentional on their part, and they have unblocked it.
- 4DFX, on 07/12/2008, -8/+26As if bad press would make any difference. Almost half of the planet is already poisoned by MSN, there's no way people would switch to another IM. It's a perfect trap: "No I'm not going to switch because all my friends are using it." Microsoft can do whatever they want and still keep the monopoly. I predict even more censorship.
- chazuk, on 07/12/2008, -1/+16At least http://www.gogle.com does redirect to google.... :D
- Thorpe, on 07/12/2008, -7/+21Gogle?
- potterboy, on 07/12/2008, -2/+16I use MSN's network because that's what most of my families on. I use AIM too, but it doesn't really matter because Pidgin brings everything together.
- Murdats, on 07/12/2008, -1/+13I use msn for uni, work and friends.
but then I live in this crazy place called not america - Murdats, on 07/12/2008, -6/+17this is the way it works, everyone uses microsoft but everyone bitches about microsoft.
whatever they do its bad PR, I have seen people say gates giving billions of dollars away is bad.
that doesnt stop people using their products though. - bjornski, on 07/12/2008, -1/+11People with friends.
Maybe you'll use it someday too. - 3toe, on 07/12/2008, -0/+10Have to agree with jerrycurley. Tinyurl is a nice tool when you need (ventrilo comments, for example) but has too much room to be exploited.
- lucutus, on 07/12/2008, -1/+11According to my own testing it was never "blocked". Every time I see a story on here about messenger blocking something, it's never blocked for me.
- AlienMushroom, on 07/12/2008, -4/+13Why do you think you are using Digg for?
- fxu1989, on 07/12/2008, -0/+9They need to unblock mediafire.com -_-
Tired of removing the "http://www" from the links - harlowsmonkeys, on 07/12/2008, -1/+9Good. Tinyurl is badly designed. It's existing form is fine for making short URLs that you can temporarily memorize (I use it all the time at work, for example, if I see a web page, and want to go over to someone else's desk and ask them to go to that page).
But for URLs you are going to send by email or IM, it should allows a slightly longer form. Something like this (I'm going to put gratuitous underscores in this so that it won't be taken as an actual URL): h_t_t_p://tinyurl.com/17aq7?h=foo.com&p=bar.html
The h= and p= arguments would be optional. If h= is present, the Tinyurl redirector would only redirect if the tinyurl actually point to the given host. Similarly, if p= was present, the redirector would make sure that the redirect is to that page. - ted510, on 07/12/2008, -0/+8Mostly the whole world besides the US....
- Drahkar, on 07/12/2008, -1/+9It could easily be an automated system.
This kind of thing I don't hold against them. When you have a automated system sometimes it gets false alerts and you fix them. That's what they have done. Microsoft has a long list of things you can complain and blame them for. How about we focus on the ones that are legitimate screw ups. Like ignoring known security holes in their software for months on end. Or flawed DRM systems, or shady dealings with trying to make everyone have to use their file formats as 'standards', etc.
Like I said, there are plenty of reasons to be pissed off with Microsoft. Lets focus on the ones that are actual issues and not the ones that anyone running similar software would run into. - Gullop, on 07/12/2008, -2/+10Well looks like it's sorted, NEXT.
- nothing4me, on 07/12/2008, -0/+8It's unblocked now...
- bicycleman, on 07/12/2008, -2/+9It's time to move over to encrypted chat. WTF are they doing reading your IMs!!!!???
Anyone know of good encrypted chat? - Rikkochet, on 07/12/2008, -1/+8I guess it's easy to trash the most popular IM network in North America when you have no friends to talk to anyways.
- Sairgem, on 07/12/2008, -5/+11People like you make me cringe. "Please! Restrict me more, I don't care!"
- Jeffler, on 07/12/2008, -1/+7Because unlike the states where it seems most have AIM and Myspace, Canada is DOMINATED by MSN and Facebook...almost nobody I know DOESN'T have either.
- theaceoffire, on 07/12/2008, -1/+7Is hugeurl blocked? Could someone with MSN test this?
http://www.hugeurl.com/?ZTE4YTM4MmQzOTllZWNhOTY4MW ... - bjornski, on 07/12/2008, -1/+7We don't care.
- necuz, on 07/12/2008, -0/+6OTR messaging is supported by all the good clients and can be used on any existing network.
- Jirachi, on 07/13/2008, -1/+7http://hugeurl.com
- rossisdead, on 07/12/2008, -7/+12Luckily no one I know uses MSN
- TheDeepFriar, on 07/12/2008, -2/+7Right on!
Pidgin FTW. - xerox, on 07/12/2008, -0/+5They also block my favourite media sharing site, mediafire.com from their networks.
- OrangeTide, on 07/12/2008, -0/+5I would ban tinyurl if I were them. You can put any sort of garbage in the tinyurl and most users aren't going to hand edit the URL to put it into preview mode. Actually that gives me an idea for an irc bot that turns tinyurls into previews.
- sbassi, on 07/13/2008, -0/+5In Argentina, using MSN is almost synonymous of using the Internet, at least by teenagers.
- ted510, on 07/12/2008, -0/+5Don't forget Asia and South America. The most popular IM client in the world is MSN ahem I mean Windows Live Messenger! AIM = AOL Instant Messenger = AOL = AMERICA Online. Get it? Now bury me like you buried the dude above.
- Charklii, on 07/12/2008, -0/+5I have no idea aye.. BUT I KNOW WHO BLOCKED YOU! To find out go here tinyurl.com/etcyougethepicture? I for one commend the move.
- Enjia, on 07/12/2008, -4/+9so now we can bury this as inaccurate?
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