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- one504, on 07/21/2009, -12/+48IE is the fastest, most secure browser ever. I cannot believe that Microsoft is able to keep making it better!
- GMH24, on 07/21/2009, -0/+26Dugg for not needing /s
- insanebrain, on 07/21/2009, -1/+26I use it to download firefox.
- SummerNight, on 07/21/2009, -1/+20I cre.
- Ouze, on 07/21/2009, -10/+27ie8 is surprisingly not that bad. Indeed, after i install windows, in the brief time it takes me to type "www.getfirefox.com" and a few clicks more, I feel like it's a pretty sweet browser.
I definitely like this one a lot for getting to and downloading Firefox. - deweyhewson, on 07/21/2009, -8/+25What's with all the Microsoft plants on this story?
IE sucks guys. It's getting a bit better with every release, but is still far behind Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari in both quality and security, so why even consider using it? It's not about the fact that Microsoft makes it, it's that it sucks. - wjappe, on 07/20/2009, -16/+33I never use IE for anything, I avoid it if at all possible.
- Tyrax, on 07/21/2009, -6/+19When I upgraded to Firefox 3.5 it took over default browser from Chrome. I wish that they would ask if I wanted it as the default browser too.
- luftrofl, on 07/21/2009, -0/+12This is why "express" installs suck.
- Gizza, on 07/21/2009, -3/+14Every time I've started up Firefox for the first time it's asked if I want to set it as the default browser.
- mrBitch, on 07/21/2009, -0/+10I cre so much that it hrts ...
- Stormen, on 07/21/2009, -0/+10I cre too.
- jsp123, on 07/21/2009, -0/+8Apparently, six people disagree
- jsp123, on 07/21/2009, -2/+10don't
- snowdevil, on 07/21/2009, -3/+11The problem with Internet Explorer (yes, even IE8) is not that it causes problems for users, but that it is a pain in the arse for developers. Microsoft *still* has not caught up with Firefox, Chrome and Safari in terms of standards compliance and bug-free behaviour.
So sure, keep using IE8 if you want, but spare a thought for us poor developers who make everything work nicely in all the other browsers and then have to spend 10-20% more time applying hacks and fixes just to get it to work in IE as well. - jsp123, on 07/21/2009, -2/+9Yeah like when I use someones computer and they installed icq with the convenient "express install" and now have their homepage, and search switched to icq powered by yahoo. I don't think I agree with your logic djgreedo...
- snowdevil, on 07/21/2009, -2/+8Ok. It's worse because it annoys the hell out of those poor people who have to write code for it. IE8 is a lot better than IE7, but it's still a bug-ridden piece of crap that causes developers no end of grief when trying to get cross-browser standards compliant code work; code that works in every other major browser. Also their JavaScript engine is slow and crap compared to Chrome, Safari and Firefox, which limits our ability to write cool apps for you non-developer types. :P
- atabrk, on 07/21/2009, -1/+7No browser (or any Windows application) should set itself default without asking user's permission. This should be application programming ethics.
- GMH24, on 07/21/2009, -1/+6Dude, IE 8 takes way more memory than FF, especially over time, and with several tabs opened. I justed opened IE 8, and FF with four tabs each to the same websites on each browser, results:
IE 8: 99064 (across 4 processes)
FF: 61140 (one process) - boardwalk, on 07/21/2009, -0/+5That's all it's good for
- fasda, on 07/21/2009, -3/+8I don't pages you're visiting but when I use it I don't have any problems with it.
- mrBitch, on 07/21/2009, -1/+5dug because Microsoft just keeps on giving...
- lifegadget, on 07/21/2009, -3/+7Good for Firefox and other Browsers!
- Domthedude001, on 07/22/2009, -0/+4Those [now twelve] people are what we call "idiots."
- inactive, on 07/21/2009, -0/+4but the other Browsers do the exact same thing
- GMH24, on 07/21/2009, -0/+3Funny thing is that your comment can only be explained by complete stupidity.
- Kazbaeden, on 07/21/2009, -2/+5Can you point me to where Firefox and Safari use sandboxing for security like IE 8 (and Chrome)? Since they're better in security as you'd say I'd expect them to have this feature.
- brim4brim, on 07/21/2009, -0/+3Most people click express because they are afraid of the questions in the custom install.
Anyone that isn't, clicks custom and wonders why anyone would click express when they see and understand the options presented to them. - zeth006, on 07/21/2009, -1/+4know which*
- CleverMind, on 07/21/2009, -3/+6You make a valid argument, but with CSS3 & HTML5 support in Safari, Firefox, Chrome, and Opera one might think that MS might try to at least make an attempt to catch up, especially since they loose more and more market share day by day.
- thebrokenlight, on 07/21/2009, -0/+2Only 10-20% more time? Tell me your secret!
- 13373h4X0r, on 07/21/2009, -0/+2They might as well rename IE8 to "Firefox Downloader 8".
- DarkShroud, on 07/21/2009, -3/+5www.ie7pro.com to install an add-on that has adblock.
- pdileepa, on 07/22/2009, -0/+2I think Microsoft is being held to an entirely different standard as far as installers are concerned. The IE installer did what every other installer does, but just look at the outrage online!
Having said that, I don't think people would have even bothered to complain had IE8 been up to snuff. - Kapitaine, on 07/21/2009, -0/+2Something to do with Apple owning the hardware as well as running the software.
- sauron256, on 07/21/2009, -1/+3What the hell is wrong with you? Stop leaving the same comment and dumb 'gun' on every story you look at.
- bajanboost, on 07/21/2009, -0/+2I cre'ed.
- talan64, on 07/21/2009, -0/+2I don't see what the big deal is. Anyone that knows MS software at least a little knows enough not to use their Express install/settings.
- zip000, on 07/21/2009, -0/+2I was kind of happy about the forced upgrade in that it might potentially get a few people to move away from IE6. Otherwise, forcing people to do things is a dick move.
- masterkenobi, on 07/21/2009, -4/+6Can we please be rid of IE? Pretty please? I don't want to develop for it anymore....
*collapses into fetal position in the corner* - Kapitaine, on 07/21/2009, -2/+3Web slices is a load of nonsense.
- jorel009, on 07/25/2009, -0/+1actually ie8 was able to load a webpage better than ff, it was for a class i was in....ff failed horribly at it.
- AlmostEvil, on 07/21/2009, -3/+4Chrome currently has the best security model, IE is still pretty bad. It isn't just something technical like sandboxing but also response times. Look at the recent example of the exploit that appeared for Firefox 3.5. An update for it was made available (3.5.1) within a week.
There is also a critical flaw in IE8 that is unpatched that was made public before the FF 3.5 exploit. MS still haven't released an update to fix it.
Also, IE8's sandboxing is only effective up to 3 tabs or 3 windows. After 3+ web pages are open it goes back to a shared memory model.
EDIT: I'd just like to add that Mozilla are working on multi-process Firefox. (sandboxing) They're re-using code from Google Chrome. It's expected to be in FF 4. - jorel009, on 07/25/2009, -0/+1ie8 is not part of the os....its been that way since ie7 (ie6 i think too), at least not on vista/7 systems. if i went into a walmart and asked every person if they know what Firefox is....what do you think they will say? ms has been good lately,they are just being punished for there dominant stature.
- esc27, on 07/21/2009, -0/+1I have to think this was just an overlooked mistake on Microsoft's part. If they actually planned this as some sort of attack on other browsers, then they should have realized it would be caught and generate bad press.
- jorel009, on 07/25/2009, -0/+1FF never asks me that......i will try to reinstall it on a blank vm just to see.
- stoperror, on 07/21/2009, -1/+2It would have been nice if Firefox didn't steal my default browser setting. In an intranet based environment that relies on Windows authentication, having IE as the default just works. Firefox is my choice for surfing the net.
- snowdevil, on 07/21/2009, -6/+7What are you getting at with the $ sign? $un are also out for a profit, as are $ony, $ymantec, $kype, and basically every other company with an S in its name. Are you suggesting that Microsoft is doing something wrong by trying to be profitable?
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