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- dicer999, on 11/20/2008, -15/+84No.
- inactive, on 11/19/2008, -20/+72BTW, Safari is so unsecure that PayPal is going to ban it from being used to submit payments there. It is very vulnerable to phishing attempts. I hate XP and Vista, don't get me wrong, but it is not WinOS. Flame away MAC guys...
- inactive, on 11/19/2008, -31/+72I use the Avast home version, it's free, has a low memory footprint and no update costs.
Windows is no less secure than any other OS, it just happens to be the most prolific and the most used by unskilled porn surfing dumbasses that don't update and get jacked by spyware. Once the spyware is in it works as a dialer and brings in the big guns.
Easy solution, stop surfing porn! - gusto, on 11/19/2008, -1/+39Since when has Windows Defender been an anti-virus app?
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -1/+33http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=1586
- forgiste, on 11/20/2008, -3/+31Please stop with this MAC thing. It's Mac, okay? it's a trademark. MAC stands for Media Access Controller and every network device in the world has a MAC address. Call me a stickler, but this is the web, use the correct nomenclature.
- Portfolioso, on 11/20/2008, -2/+25Or you could use a decent web browser and stop installing ActiveX controls like a dumbass.
Edit: Oops like 5 people beat me. - TheMandibleClaw, on 11/19/2008, -9/+28to slow your machine down ?
- dicer999, on 11/20/2008, -0/+18Windows Defender - Spyware
Morro - Antivirus - frieddonuts, on 11/20/2008, -4/+21*touché
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -3/+20Last "developers" update of Mac OS includes a version of Safari with the Anti phishing. Not generally available.
Also it is in a disabled state so even Devs can't use it. - Kamujin, on 11/20/2008, -5/+20Yeah, this clearly explains why OSX fell in 2 minutes in the PWN2OWN hack contest.
/sarcasm off.
To add more detail, it fell to a vulnerability in Apple's own safari software. No 3rd party code needed to compromise OSX. Vista fell a day later to a flash vulnerability. - manstein01, on 11/20/2008, -4/+19One of these days people are going to realize the difference between "free" and bundling.
- IanG73, on 11/20/2008, -17/+31For some reason, the words Microsoft and Antivirus don't chime well together.
- LMN8R, on 11/20/2008, -1/+14Though I'm a very happy Vista user, your claim is not only questionable, but your "I hate XP and Vista, don't get me wrong", seems like nothing but a lame attempt to fit in with the "cool kid Digg crowd".
Grow up. - rnawky, on 11/20/2008, -7/+20Wow you ignorant *****. There's no way to protect against viruses like that. The only way to accomplish that is to have something far worse than UAC.
Application is trying to load (Accept / Deny)
Application is trying to load dynamic library loader.dll (Accept / Deny)
Application is trying to load dynamic library atimgpud.dll (Accept / Deny)
Application is trying to load dynamic library binkw32.dll (Accept / Deny)
Application is trying to load dynamic library libvorbis.dll (Accept / Deny)
Application is trying to load dynamic library libvorbisfile.dll (Accept / Deny)
Application is trying to read from file high.ini (Accept / Deny)
I'll stop there but you get the point. Unless they COMPLETELY lock down an applications ability to freely change/add/remove files then it's not going to happen.
No one rights viruses for mac/Linux users because most virus writers use Linux and that would just be a dick move. Oh, not to mention if you're going to write a virus, you want it to effect as many people as possible anyway, so Windows seems to be your best bet, now doesn't it? - Zippo, on 11/20/2008, -4/+17If PayPal was actually going to ban any browser for being insecure, IE would have been banned years ago.
- jhaks, on 11/20/2008, -1/+13Who said they aren't doing both? You can could have a system with no code vulnerabilities but you can't stop people from being stupid. If the user is tricked into installing malware then there is nothing good secure code can do to stop it. That is why you have anti-virus software to detect malicious software before you unknowingly execute it and to help remove it in the case that it gets into your machine.
- gungaroo22, on 11/20/2008, -2/+11Cool. Go read up on how to properly maintain a computer.
- Tishiablo, on 11/20/2008, -0/+8Yea.. It seemed like a good idea for about 5 seconds
- pooljoe, on 11/20/2008, -6/+14SOLUTION....Stop browsing porn, MAKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Lionhart, on 11/20/2008, -0/+8Isn't that what windows defender was already?
- i4mt3hwin, on 11/20/2008, -2/+10This topic is full of ***** already. "virus enabling code" wtf is that? I guess I'm the only one that's happy that Microsoft is announcing this.
- FriedTurkey, on 11/20/2008, -2/+9Good thing for Windows in general. Most people who complain that Vista and XP always crashes on them usually have some kind of virus infected machine. Sure you can say Microsoft should have built in security but they did that in Vista and people just found it annoying and turned it off. The move to get free anti-virus software out there and make it standard on new installs will pay off dividends for Microsoft in the long run.
- Saikou, on 11/20/2008, -0/+7OneCare isn't bloated. On my system it used less than 3 mb in background mode, and even during a full scan, it uses about 14 mb. Norton products have been bloatware for a long time and OneCare is a whole lot better than McAffee and Norton. I started used OneCare because it was one of the few AV products that supported my 64bit OS. Installing a third party AV product as always been hit or miss in my experience. The one thing I would improve with OneCare is that the logging is a little lacking. While you can find logging information in the event logs and create a filter in Event Viewer to hightlight those calls made by OneCare, the standard response from OneCare after scanning is that nothing was found, leaving you to guess as to what was scanned and when.
- arjie, on 11/20/2008, -1/+8See, my preferred operating system is Ubuntu, but UAC isn't really that bad. I don't know what these people are doing who have UAC always popping up (unless it's that goddamn Java updater) but it seems to be doing it right. UAC is actually okay, if only it would show a little detail.
The weak point, as always, is the user.
Still, when you have lots of users on a Linux distro, it's safer than a default Windows XP with lots of users. Just because none of them generally log into an administrator role in the Linux distro.
Funny anecdote: Last Sunday I was at a friend's house. His computer was borked with viruses (came off USB drives from the college network) and it wouldn't run anything. Because clam was a pain to set up, we used Avira on Wine to scan his windows hard drive. - RSAgent007, on 11/20/2008, -1/+8No.
Defender = Spyware
Morro = Antivirus - LanceUppercut, on 11/20/2008, -0/+7search it in a virtual machine. You can get a 3 month image from microsoft for free and virtual pc is also free. I throw all the junk software on it and repave it every few months.
- SteelFrog, on 11/20/2008, -14/+20Don't release an anti-virus; fix your virus-enabling code and release appropriate patches.
- NexusV2, on 11/20/2008, -4/+10They go about as well as "two girls" and "one cup".
- freshgrease, on 11/20/2008, -4/+10The Nigerians won't be happy....until they find out it is worthless.
- MWeather, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5Yeah, who would want to hack an OS used to run servers that send files to billions of PCs every day? Totally not worth the trouble.
- manbearpig1, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5Ohhhh *****.
- manstein01, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5They started to do that with Vista, and got bitched at and slammed by developers.
The problem with locking a system down is it makes it harder for users to install stuff. And users do not like that. - emazur, on 11/20/2008, -1/+6Well they do make and sell the OneCare antivirus product - I've never used it but I've never heard anything bad about it. But now they will be offering a free replacement that uses less resources, so it sounds like a win to me
- fr3ddie, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5This is important because there are a lot of STUPID anti-virus programs that will offer a trial version that only SCANS... and doesn't repair until you pay. (and the scan takes about 2 hours of wasted time) ...which pisses me off more than a mormon on my front porch.
- mellenger, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5and a brand of makeup.
- lnxfi, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5RTFA!
"The software will be available in the second half of 2009 and" - theaceoffire, on 11/20/2008, -2/+7You can uninstall/replace all Ubuntu extra software quickly with no major negative effects.
Try uninstalling IE, or WMP. So much crap relies on the thousands of built in programs, that half the programs out there would fall appart. - MicrosoftBob, on 11/20/2008, -1/+6Exactly. PEBCAK is the biggest security issue.
- Harrison88, on 11/20/2008, -9/+14Source?
- JasonCox, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4I have to say I'm a bit irked, while I like the idea of a free AV from Microsoft, I'm a little pissed that they're axing OneCare which is the first AV I've ever liked enough to pay a subscription fee for.
- emazur, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4If I recall correctly, Morro won't be coming out til the end of next year so you'll still benefit from your subscription in the meantime, and when Morro comes out you've got a free product that supposedly uses less resources than your current AV. Sounds like a win to me (and if your OneCare subscription runs out before Morro arrives, you can either use a free AV like AVG, which is what I use, or use trial versions of others like Kaspersky, NOD32, etc)
- markdubi, on 11/20/2008, -2/+6You must not know what you're doing. Norton is the worst program out there
- esc27, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5"If you've ever wondered how you got infected with Antivirus 2008/9 on your computer when you did nothing, not even opened an email attachment, then you would have to wonder how on earth Microsoft let this happen to you."
If your car is ever stolen/vandalized you have to wonder why Toyota (or whoever) let it happen.
If your house catches on fire, blame the contractor.
If your lawnmower kills your daises, blame Home Depot...
Microsoft shares some blame, but sometime bad things just happen. It is ridiculous to imply Windows should be perfect 100% of the time. - piranhaa, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5Didn't AVG recently detect AND delete a critical system file as a virus?
- Grazfather, on 11/20/2008, -4/+8You're an idiot if you think a mac is inherently more secure than windows.
- Dustmuffins, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5Or MASS ACCELERATOR CANNON!
- FeloniusMonkey, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5The the hell is "Failure Solution" supposed to mean, anyway? Son, I reckon you must be some kinda oxymo-ron.
- sremick, on 11/20/2008, -3/+7I was with you until "Windows is no less secure than any other OS". Fail.
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