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- krystalo, on 04/22/2008, -53/+139Buried as inaccurate. What a load of crap. Of course it will probably make Digg's frontpage, considering how many Microsoft bashing articles do.
- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -66/+143It's not clunky. It runs nicely on my Dell Inspiron 1420. I like it a lot better than I ever did XP.
I suppose if I was confronted with a Vista upgrade or compatibility problem, I'd be annoyed. But it is far from being "Windows ME 2.0." It has proven very stable on my system and I do enjoy the eye candy and new Mac-like explorer functionality. - aliguana, on 04/22/2008, -19/+77no, people are "clutching to XP" because a) their machines need upgrading to run Vista properly b) Vista is too expensive. Stores are unhappy because they can't just bundle Vista on any old crappola machine like they can with XP, so of course they're clutching to XP for as long as they can. The majority of people will buy a new machine with Vista installed and be very happy with it, thank you very much.
No-one says "Leopard is a clunky OS", because people aren't trying to run it on outdated hardware. A 2008 OS generally needs 2008 hardware, sorry to say. (Says he who is running Vista perfectly fine on a 2001 Pentium) - schizogony, on 04/22/2008, -29/+75Yay, another fanboy baiting article written to do nothing other than stir up controversy.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -9/+42I run Vista on 4 PCs at home, (2 desktops, 1 notebook and the HTPC) and it is a massive improvement over Windows XP in many aspects; ease of use, stability and security being my top 3.
There is one problem with it though. The uneducated masses who bash Vista because it is the cool thing to do. Those who bash it have clearly never used it on a computer less than 2 years old, otherwise they would realise it is fantastic. Either that or they are running it on their $400 notebook with 512mb of RAM wondering why it's so sluggish (try using XP plus the manufacturers bloatware w/ 512MB of RAM and see how that goes).
Driver support is phenomenal. I've used 3 different printers with it and thank God I have not had to reach for the manufacturers bloatware CD. I can print or scan out of the box. If the drivers aren't there, Vista accesses the driver database for me and gets them.
So really, it's just the haters who are hyping up how bad it is with a malformed opinion. People who know the more technical ins and outs of Vista know it is a massive improvement over XP.
These trashy websites continue to attack Vista because it is what the majority of people want to read. Too many people want to see a company fail for no good reason. This is not Windows ME again. This is Microsoft's best operating system to date (each to their own, of course). - poidh, on 04/22/2008, -32/+63I prefer my Vista to XP. I've had absolutely no trouble at all with it. But then again, I live in the real world so I would never jump on the bandwagon and bash Vista just because I was an inadquate nerd who wanted to fit in.
To be honest, I feel embarrassed for the Vista-bashers. What a shallow and uninteresting life they must lead: "I want to fit in. I want to be liked. I know, I'll bash Vista. Then I'll kiss Apple's ass. Then I'll propagate the latest internet meme, hee hee lol. Then I'll post in a Kevin Rose thread, speaking to him as if he is my friend. I just want to be liked." - zerocool1990, on 04/22/2008, -10/+39Yes i agree too. I never saw what the fuss is all about and I've been using vista for a year.
- e2superman, on 04/22/2008, -38/+66My copy of Vista runs just fine on my computer. I have had it over a year with zero crashes, zero driver problems, and once I tweaked some setting for UAC (it can be annoying by default) the OS is a gem.
- itsthemechanic, on 04/22/2008, -17/+44Vista: 20% less FPS, hogging more memory, weird sound problems in games.
XP SP2: faster, stable, and with some msstyle changes, just as pretty.
It's not bashing, I tried both. Although, if you just surf the web and do basic stuff Vista might work fine for you, and look pretty to boot.. but if you do balls-to-the-wall stuff with your computer, you will discover the myriad of ways in which it blows.
And fwiw, my machine does NOT need upgrading to run Vista: 2GB RAM, Dual Core T7700 2.4 Ghz, Geforce 8800M GTX. - S1ngular1ty1, on 04/22/2008, -11/+31Same here. My machine with Vista 32 Ultimate runs fine. In fact I'd say more stable than XP. I regularly play games on it.
- MacParrot, on 04/22/2008, -1/+17"Win95 -> ME -> 98"
????? Didn't ME come out after Win98? - Zoltair, on 04/22/2008, -7/+23Vista runs fine for me, been using it for almost a year, never had a BSOD yet that was so frequent on XP, and even my wife find it far easier to use and configure for her liking.
The author doesn't have much a clue, needs a better crystal ball. - PrismoFillusion, on 04/22/2008, -17/+33Alright, I decided to finally stop lurking and sign up for an account just to say the following:
I had ME and it was AWFUL. It basically made my family computer half-useless until we were finally able to upgrade to XP eventually.
I just got a laptop with Vista a couple of weeks ago, and I haven't had one problem with the OS.
It's not a big step up from XP (if one at all at this point), but in terms of "does it work?" the answer is "yes!" - e2superman, on 04/22/2008, -25/+40I have had Vista over a year without a single crash or driver problem. IMO it runs better than XP. UAC can be annoying sometimes but you can tweak that setting in the control panel if you desire. I downloaded a beta driver for nvidia once and it did not work right (why they call it beta) and instead of taking vista down it simply restarted the driver (screen flashes) and then all is good. In XP my whole computer would have BSOD'd.
- zerocool1990, on 04/22/2008, -10/+24Why the hell are you burying him ? Because he thinks vista is good ?
Well I've been using vista for a year too and i love it. - armo, on 04/22/2008, -3/+17What? Inaccurate? A blog citing a blog must be true.
- simplistics06, on 04/22/2008, -14/+27I upgraded from vista to xp and couldn't be happier.
- rusty2226, on 04/22/2008, -4/+17All right...so confused about how us people that hate Vista that we're sheep? seriously does it make me a nerd that wants to fit in, no. I'm happy with XP and will stay with it. My computer is able to support Vista No problem but it just didn't fell right. I hack my XP system to a point were I can boot in under 25 seconds, were Vista took up to a minute. There is something wrong with Vista source code that hogs resources like a Nazi, i know its caching, but when I have 2GB of ram and It makes my computer run like a dirty machine. There's something wrong there.
I think though that Vista is a good operating system but not the breakthrough or needed item that Microsoft needed to re-catch the spirit of Windows. Yes it is windows, but not like how XP caught on. I admit I love most of its features but, Its just I can get most of those features on XP with a few Add-ons. So to me not worth the Money.
And then most of you say "The guys bashing are Linux FANBOYS!!!" Yes I do run linux but I dual boot because I use linux to write my programs. Linux is just another OS that people use, I'm kinda glad that Vista is making people open their eyes and they switch to mac or Linux, we need competition on the market. - synik, on 04/22/2008, -8/+20I recently built myself a new pc. It's a dual core E8400 3GHz, 2 gig of RAM, 8800GT graphics card, 500GB HDD. All up the cost was about AU$1200. I can install any Windows OS (I work as a software developer, and my work place has MSDN licencing), so I installed Vista ultimate edition.
After hearing all the Vista hate, I braced myself for problems..... but there were none. Vista works great. I like all the graphical effects. I like how Vista asks me before programs try to do things. I like the side bar. My games run fast, and never crash. My wife loves the new windows games.
Personally, I think people who hate Vista are either:
1) trying to be cool and fit in
2) trying to run Vista on crappy old hardware
3) Linux and Mac users who hate Microsoft anyway - S1ngular1ty1, on 04/22/2008, -5/+17Maybe you just don't know what you are doing?
- icsbase, on 04/22/2008, -11/+23Microsoft will admit that Vista was a flop compared to what it might have been for further development - but only after next Windows version is released. They _need_ Vista to gather more money right now so they say it's currently the best option out there for operation system.
- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -15/+26Yes, he installed Vista.
- GliTCH82, on 04/22/2008, -4/+15You mean like this Core 2 Quad with 4GB of RAM?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRm4hk5uRo0
Right, so here's a perfectly working Core 2 Quad (mine) and yet you say yours runs slow. Hmmm.... - PueSi, on 04/22/2008, -5/+16Are you ***** kidding me? Digg the bastion of MS fanboys? Do you realize how many stories make the frontpage about the stupid Iphone?
- FatShady, on 04/22/2008, -8/+19Spoken just like someone who's online moniker is "badwithcomputer".
Well done. - Tidia, on 04/22/2008, -10/+21I 'upgraded' from XP to Vista on my laptop, worst mistake I could have made. Vista is a resource hog, offers minor visual upgrades and has debilitating 'security' features. Sure it is a probably nostalgia speaking but I prefer using a 'tried and true' operating system.
If only I had bothered to create those setup disk. - cyberghost232, on 04/22/2008, -6/+16They should take whats good in vista and release an SP pack of those for XP
- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -2/+12It's not about crashing or failures per se, it is about the massively overhyped expectations and claims for Vista from Microsoft, the extended development time & delays, vs cost & the operating system's sluggishness at release, lack of features and general superfluous nature. It is not what it is supposed to be, and you really might as well not install it cos you aint missing anything.
- GliTCH82, on 04/22/2008, -3/+13Actually, Vista is exactly what I thought it would be, I don't buy into hype and I knew Microsoft was re-orienting their internal strategy for development by focusing more on security than anything else. Vista is a great product, it has great features and I find using my computer with it more enjoyable than XP, and I have enough experience under my belt to be able to say that with certain confidence.
- gn0stik, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9didn't check the hcl before upgrading eh? didn't run the upgrade advisor? meh, look, if your friend wants a box of heterogeneous hardware designed to work with a specific OS, in a guaranteed stable way, she can switch. If she wants a flexible platform made to run with the latest third party hardware in a stable manner, buy vista. There was plenty of forewarning of compatibility issues with older hardware, and software, and there were even no brainer tools that pointed out configuration, software and hardware setups that were known problems for upgraders. If she didn't run these tools, or ignored their advice, then her story is a little less than laugably moot here.
Ignorance is not an excuse for these types of problems. - TheZorch, on 04/22/2008, -19/+28#1 Problem of Windows Vista: It requires consumers to upgrade to the latest and greatest computer hardware turning a $200+ upgrade into a $3,000 upgrade. Vista Home Premium has only the most basic of features, and if you are missing a feature you need to upgrade again to the Ultimate version which is around $400. Not everyone is able or willing to upgrade to a machine powerful enough to handle Vista. There is a Windows Experience rating system in the OS. If your rating is 3.0 you are on the lower tier of the OS being usable for something other than email. For the millions of use who are gamers we need a machine that has a score of 5.0 and that takes lots and lot of $$$ that the majority of us just don't have. Vista is too expensive, both in price and in system resources, this is why its a debacle. The Compiz Fusion desktop on Linux is 3D accelerated on video cards that can handle GLX. This usually includes most ATI and Nvidia cards, and they don't have to be the latest and greatest cards either. This 3D desktop runs smoothly on hardware from the heyday of the Windows XP Era. So, why is it Windows Vista's 3D accelerated desktop requires so much more in system resources? A 3D accelerated desktop could have easily been made that runs on P4 and Athlon XP CPUs with older ATI and Nvidia hardware yet still support the higher end stuff which enthusiast gamers with big budgets could buy. This is why there is a big problem with Vista.
- FKnight, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9You just claimed that a piece of software that was NOT written by "Symantec" was the "worst software in history."
Everything you say can safely be ignored now, as it's meaningless. No one with any education beyond 9th Grade High School would ever take seriously the claim that a piece of software is the "worst in history" unless it was written by Symantec. - flangepiece, on 04/22/2008, -6/+15Only reason I've got Vista on my machine is I thought I'd be an early adopter for once in my life, so I shelled out on the OEM copy of Ultimate 64. What can I say, it works okay-ish, barring the occasional update which just won't install no matter what I do, the fact I had to unlock it a couple of times when I upgraded my PC just a little too much (because moving from IDE to SATA is utterly unheard of right?), Superfetch dying all the time, and other random process error messages which don't actually seem to effect the running of the PC. But it's getting a heck of a lot less airtime on my PC than a certain other OS which is becoming increasingly popular. I'll give Windows 7 a go if I get a FREE upgrade from Microsoft, but the chances of that are slim to non-existent.
- cotaskmemalloc, on 04/22/2008, -5/+14No, he is just another happy Vista user - like myself and a ***** others. Is that you, Richard Stallman?
- PueSi, on 04/22/2008, -7/+16You are full of *****, a $3000 upgrade? Really? I recently build a new computer for about $700 and i can run CoD4, Bioshock, TF2, F.E.A.R, you name it, all at max settings.
My previous computer an which had an Athlon64 3500+ ran Vista just fine with 2GB of RAM, on XP the RAM was being wasted just sitting there idle.
Back in the day people had 128MB of RAM and XP ran like *****. - aliguana, on 04/22/2008, -3/+12they did, it's called Vista. lol. seriously, if you took all the "Vista" bits out of Vista and put them into XP, it would be.. Vista. Because all Vista is just a skin for XP, with a new graphics system imo.
- GliTCH82, on 04/22/2008, -4/+13I don't even know what to tell you, because there's about 20 different things wrong with your comment anyway.
- bigBADguy, on 04/22/2008, -1/+10My Vista works great too. Sure, it took too much disk space and memory, and MARGINALLY slower than XP. UAC need fine tune!
Honestly, the plus side is still more than all these bad things up... - GliTCH82, on 04/22/2008, -5/+14Vista has lots of new I/O technologies that allow newer hardware to scale higher, performance wise, versus XP. Here's a wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista_I/O_tec ... - bitsmartuk, on 04/22/2008, -3/+11If "not crashing" is the only thing you look for in an operating system then yeah, I guess it's pretty good. By most other metrics however...
- GliTCH82, on 04/22/2008, -5/+13Comparing an OS to a set of tires is a terrible analogy, first of all, and second of all, nobody said you had to upgrade to run a newer OS. Nobody said you even need to run the newer OS. All I am saying is that just because a new operating system doesn't run fast on an older computer doesn't mean the OS is fundamentally ***** up. And I'm sure a lot of other people who are also running Vista like me and are perfectly happy with it, scratching their heads and shrugging at all the negativity about it, are saying the same thing.
- PueSi, on 04/22/2008, -14/+22What a stupid analogy, if you don't want Vista just use XP, nobody is forcing you to upgrade. I guess everything is acceptable as long as you bash Vista.
- synik, on 04/22/2008, -2/+10And why do I fail? because I have a new computer? because it runs well? because I am posting this from Vista?
- PueSi, on 04/22/2008, -2/+9Don't you have a new turtle neck to buy?
- Hangly, on 04/22/2008, -6/+13I'm running Linux now. A 1993 operating system based on an OS from 1964.
Newer isn't always better. - Assezdefromage, on 04/22/2008, -0/+7They both have some common features now. That's not saying that they are identical. Just similar in certain aspects.
- chaos7, on 04/22/2008, -2/+9the only thing i HATE about vista is how windows explorer tries to detect what's in a folder and changes the view setting. i think i have found a registry edit to stop it, but still..i hate hate hate this "feature"
- e2superman, on 04/22/2008, -10/+17You rule. LMAO
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 04/22/2008, -1/+8I downgraded my Windows computer from Vista (which I bought and opted in for MS to mail me the 64bit version free) to XP.
I immediately missed a lot of the features, noticed how old XP looked, and how much smarter Vista performed.
You can even see that programs interfere with each other a lot more in XP, when using resources like CPU or hard drive access.
I was developing DirectX software and one of the libraries that I was using was causing the nVidia driver that I installed to crash every 30 seconds.
This would have been a blue screen in XP, but Vista just restarts the driver and popups a message.
In XP my DirectX performance was double that of Vista, with the exact same code.
The problem is nVidia making ***** drivers. 1/3 of all Vista problems are nVidia drivers. -
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