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- Pburgdwller, on 05/01/2009, -8/+186I look forward to the torrent of this which is bound to appear soon.
- ariez84, on 05/01/2009, -30/+141Windows XP is probably the most unsecure OS there is. Its funny how people have such short term memory. XP was such a ***** before SP2, that it was almost unuseable. Vista at least was decent on launch, only problem is driver issues and the fact that Microsoft ***** up its Vista Sticker program, slapping "Vista Ready" stickers on ***** ass PCs that have no business running Vista. (Seriously whats the ***** point of Vista Ready when it cant even run the basics such as Aero?)
And this post would probably get Dugg down judging at how many Diggs the first commenter got hating on Vista. - JMilton, on 05/01/2009, -9/+81Why don't they use Linux/Unix? It's not like they're using military computers to play Crysis. Or, are they?
- techdever, on 05/01/2009, -8/+78Jack Bauer here and I use windows vista: torture edition
- udjet, on 05/01/2009, -19/+89You obviously don't work for the government. The Air Force installs Vista on all computers that support it. XP is only left on older machines that can't handle Vista.
- Lederhosed, on 05/01/2009, -90/+159Not even the government is stupid enough to buy Vista
- jeffness, on 05/01/2009, -2/+42Sounds more like Microsoft helped the AF configure group policy settings and WSUS. I didn't read anything custom at all in that article. Typical misunderstanding, obviously.
Moreover, a normal consumer wouldn't WANT a version of the OS as locked down as the Airforce wanted it. Look at the uproar over UAC in vista for evidence of that; this is even more so.
Nothing in the article indicates code was actually changed for the AF installs. It's very easy for them to make their own OEM installer and then apply security settings through group policy and use WSUS to apply updates across their network. - AshsToAshs, on 05/01/2009, -0/+36You would not want to use this version of XP for personal use. I work with the US DOI and we are about to implement this new version shortly. In includes changes like:
-Users no longer have access to the Program Files folder
-Users can no longer create any file or folder on the root of C
-User now have very limited Admin access, and can only install a select few 3rd party applications.
This "most secure distribution version of Windows XP ever" is only secure because we limit what the user is able to do. It doesnt have some magic patch on it that prevents spyware and viruses better than normal XP. - cheeze_ballz, on 05/01/2009, -10/+43department of interior has mandated that NO windows vista machines can exist on the network...at all. we are all running windows xp, and i've heard no plans on changing that.
- mithrasinvictus, on 05/01/2009, -5/+36I remember. It took a fresh installation only about 5 minutes to get a worm without any user interaction.
- TheZorch, on 05/01/2009, -7/+33The NSA produced a Linux distro anyone can obtain and use that is the most secure OS in the world.
- ZippyV, on 05/01/2009, -1/+27"The Air Force began the project in 2005 and finished installing the new configuration on systems in 2007."
Pretty sure Vista wasn't available in that timeframe. - MWeather, on 05/01/2009, -15/+40All editions of Vista are torture edition.
- iJessicaRabbit, on 05/01/2009, -1/+26Is this something the average, daily computer user would want? What kind of settings would be one of the "600 settings locked down tight"?
- norman619, on 05/01/2009, -11/+35Wow... That was a nice piece of fail you showed us.
Vista is fine. Its hardware reqs are a bit hight which is why it doesn't run well on most machines since most machines don't have enough RAM or CPU power to run it like it's soppsed to be. I support systems and found out from experience that people who have complained about Vista have either never actually used it or are computer newbies who cause their own problems. Peopel love to blame the machine when they screw up. It's really irritating when I damn near have to waterboard a user/customer to get them to tell me what they did to cause the problem. - puskar49, on 05/01/2009, -5/+28USAF has mandated Vista on all desktops by December 2009 (FDDC 2.1).
- VyRuZ, on 05/01/2009, -2/+24Do you have a RSS feed I can subscribe to for your daily observations?
- inactive, on 05/01/2009, -0/+21I love how on every digg story, there is someone special from the inside to give more information.
- ilikedemoon, on 05/01/2009, -1/+22For the rest of us the thing to do is start with a fresh install, configure and add patches and software, then save your HDD with Ghost. Haven't tried it yet but seen it work before.
- Sin2k, on 05/01/2009, -0/+20I lold... The average AF machine sits at around 1-2gb of ram and uses onboard video/audio, we'd really be lucky to run World of Warcraft at any decent res.
(oh yeah and you get Ie7, if you're lucky) - NinjaBoy, on 05/01/2009, -0/+19Its the crazy how digg has changed. Back in the day 90% of the users would have imeditally known thats all they did. Now you have to hunt for the techies on this site.
- v4vishal, on 05/01/2009, -6/+25Look Ma! A secure Windows.
Don't talk nonsense. Eat your vegetables. - lashtal, on 05/01/2009, -1/+20gpedit.msc
- puskar49, on 05/01/2009, -0/+18As long as you have administrator rights, it's not a big deal. Standard users are prevented from doing just about anything, including changing the system time, writing to C:, running a defrag (seriously), etc.
- Gareth321, on 05/01/2009, -0/+18I think you accidentally a verb.
- vofuse, on 05/01/2009, -3/+19US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates here. All of you get back to work!
- TravisOwens, on 05/01/2009, -0/+16"Sorry Dave, I can't let you do that."
"Dammit HAL, I just want to surf the web!" - alexforcefive, on 05/01/2009, -0/+16I dugg it for: “Turns out when you configure things properly and don’t touch them, they actually work pretty well”. Who'd have guessed?
- peters1023, on 05/01/2009, -16/+32DoD employee here. I like my Vista machines at work as well as at home. No problems whatsoever.
- ZippyV, on 05/01/2009, -2/+18Intel pushed Microsoft for the Vista capable sticker because they had a bunch of video chips that couldn't run Aero, they weren't even DirectX 9 compliant.
- inactive, on 05/01/2009, -0/+16The settings are already included in Windows. GPEDIT.msc
The only thing the Air Force got was a custom template so their admins don't have to deal with it. - merky1, on 05/01/2009, -16/+31It's sad that Microsoft can recognize the flaws that make its OS insecure, but its incapable of taking this information and improving windows.
- minoss, on 05/01/2009, -0/+14And because this likely locks down a bunch of ***** people may actually want to use.
- missingnoh4x, on 05/01/2009, -0/+14All Linux fanboyism aside, I really don't get why they bother purchasing operating systems for computers that really don't need anything special at all and are just going to be used for a few simple tasks. I've seen ***** cashier kiosks running Windows.
- shane12088, on 05/01/2009, -3/+16Dugg for: http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2009 ...
- inactive, on 05/01/2009, -0/+13Pretty much. Thank you for being one of the few that realize all the Air Force received was a version of Windows with a custom ADM implemented.
- inactive, on 05/01/2009, -0/+13kind of retarded considering that windows 7 is around the corner.
- BeerRules, on 05/01/2009, -0/+12Probably not, most people don't want to have a password that meets government standards of being so many characters long and using a certain number of special characters and numbers and non repeating characters blah blah blah. For the general user it would probably be a pain to hook up to their home LAN.
- eanbowman, on 05/01/2009, -1/+13http://www.captainobvious.com/feed.xml
- kemp34, on 05/01/2009, -0/+11Why do you think they call it "Windows"?
- Maddoktor2, on 05/01/2009, -1/+12NSA security configuration guidelines:
http://www.nsa.gov/ia/guidance/security_configurat ... - cheeze_ballz, on 05/01/2009, -4/+15ZippyV: "Any operating system has security flaws, even Linux."
yeah, they're called users. - Arowin, on 05/01/2009, -0/+11I think they meant, it took 57 days to test all the patches on all the different configurations of the systems...
- inactive, on 05/01/2009, -1/+12Pardon me, but OpenBSD begs to differ.
- ZippyV, on 05/01/2009, -6/+16But you do want to pay more tax dollars to rewrite all the custom software that's been made for Windows?
Any operating system has security flaws, even Linux. - eanbowman, on 05/01/2009, -0/+10Acronis TrueImage is some software my roommate bought which works exceptionally well.
I don't know how Ghost is anymore. I haven't used a Symanted product in years. - seltaeb4, on 05/01/2009, -0/+10Windows 7=Vista Service Pack 3.
- peters1023, on 05/01/2009, -2/+12Why is everyone mad about this? The DoD is a HUGE client. As a company why the hell wouldn't you want to take of your biggest clients?
- nomasteryoda, on 05/01/2009, -4/+13ZippyV,
As a matter of fact, the upgrade and replacement of XP is happening now and will continue until ALL deskop systems (laptops too) are running Vista. They may have finished initial testing during 2005-2007, but 2009 is the year of Vista for the USAF.
Personally I'd rather see them use Linux since its more secure and would not waste my tax dollars on speedy hardware just to have it bogged down by Microsoft's massive failure of a product. - DarkShroud, on 05/01/2009, -0/+9A lot of diggers are still in High School there for they do not understand the concept of a job or taking care of clients.
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