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- LeroyJenkems, on 10/06/2008, -13/+121What happens when Windows 7 has all the problems Vista USED to have? Downgrades to Vista?
Vista SP1 is very stable and usable. - mrgeekguy, on 10/06/2008, -2/+95They should switch to Windows Mojave, I heard it was awesome!
- Gumboot, on 10/05/2008, -5/+95Does anyone have any evidence that this sort of behaviour is unusual? I was under the impression skipping OS versions is pretty common in the business world.
- kraetos, on 10/06/2008, -6/+67I love how people are skipping Vista for Windows 7 as if its definitive that Windows 7 will, for some magical reason, be a vast improvement. It isn't like Microsoft has been doing anything drastically different recently.
Windows is Windows. If you don't like it, stop waiting around for Microsoft to fix your problems, and buy a Mac or download Linux. - cowman80i9, on 10/06/2008, -9/+56i used vista since launch, i never had a single problem and i learned it in a week.
- gcnaddict, on 10/06/2008, -10/+37It's stable as ***** even with the fancy *****.
- killtrocity, on 10/06/2008, -2/+28It's funny. There was a guy in one of my classes that attempted to inform the class of the next Microsoft release, "Windows Mojave." He seemed to think he was "on the up and up," but he was met with intense laughter from nearly everyone, including the teacher.
- dfsjdkflasjk, on 10/06/2008, -5/+30I concur, I don't think Maine gives two ***** about "shunning" Windows Vista, but it's more of a too frequent expense and work involved, especially when 7 is just around the corner.
- thegamingguy, on 10/05/2008, -9/+32the wait won't be long, 7 goes into beta in like a month or so.
- gcnaddict, on 10/06/2008, -30/+51All the hating on Vista needs to stop. None of you have used it.
"OMG YES I HAVE! VISTA SUX" Suck one yourself; you didn't use Vista for any extended period of time. I routinely build networks for small businesses using Vista and Server 2008 because of the advantages posed over anything+Server 2003 (most notably Network Access Protection and the simplicity of adding devices, along with Superfetch keeping the most frequently used applications, such as Office, at the ready). Anyone who has worked with Vista + Server 2008 and knows how to implement the newest features knows how amazingly handy the pair happens to be. - SSPink, on 10/06/2008, -6/+23Vista SP1 is actually very stable and the driver issues have been addressed by manufacturers for the most part, but it's hard to wash off a bad stigma. It's not like the software world needed another example of a simple lesson, but they got one anyway; it's better to release software late than it is to release unfinished software.
By the time Vista's bugs had been hammered out people were already talking about Windows 7, I just hope they don't rush 7 out too in an attempt to erase the stain that Vista left or MS may make things worse for themselves. But XP's vast, vast improvement over Windows ME *shiver* gives me some hope they may get it right this time around. - IamSunstorm, on 10/06/2008, -0/+17If I go to a restaurant every day, and every day without fail I order the same dish, and the products are instantly recyclable with no loss, and the chef is Superman, then why shouldn't he prepare what I eat every day before I get there while he's not doing anything else?
- xB4R7x, on 10/06/2008, -6/+18I like turtles.
- TR3GO, on 10/06/2008, -8/+20Maine.... The way Life should be!
- Scott2, on 10/06/2008, -3/+15You do realize that this is a Microsoft product . . . so Microsoft timeline applies? We'll see Win 7 in 2010 or 2011.
- savagesteve13, on 10/06/2008, -1/+12The problem for businesses and agencies is always compatibility issues when moving to a new OS. Not only compatibility with hardware, but compatibility with installed software, internally developed applications.
Vista demanded too much resources and businesses balked at the cost. - IamSunstorm, on 10/06/2008, -2/+12Learning curve? What are your customers, mentally retarded?
- YoWhatDaFuxUp, on 10/06/2008, -2/+12***** you two of my friends died from a turtle
- raydeen, on 10/06/2008, -1/+11Maybe because it works.
- trodemaster, on 10/06/2008, -2/+12Not sure that windows 7 is going to "fix" anything that vista hasn't.
- luchid, on 10/06/2008, -9/+18So you're saying we should turn off advertised features of a product we paid for to make it "not so bad". Wow you people are conformists...
- gluecode, on 10/06/2008, -1/+10Windows 7 preview (milestone 3) is supposed to be released at PDC. It's not the beta. Beta 1 is rumored to be made available early next year.
- wastern, on 10/06/2008, -0/+8All these people are saying they are going to do this. They are banking a lot on Windows 7. What happens when Windows 7 is plagued by the same issues, and certainly others
- mrbutter, on 10/06/2008, -0/+7If you guys actually read...
It makes COMPLETE sense to do what they're doing. They already waited two years...theres no point in going through the hassle of upgrading the OS on their systems now and then do it again next year or whenever W7 comes out.
Furthermore they said that they will be doing a hardware upgrade next year which would coincide with when W7 comes out.
It's not because Vista sucks, it's because it is simply more convenient for them to not upgrade twice in 2 years.
Besides guys, Vista hating got old about 8 months ago. - inactive, on 10/06/2008, -0/+7Right here, burying your comment.
-PROUD TO SERVE; YOU WON'T BE HEARD! BURY BRIGADE IS HERE GOOD SIRS! - inactive, on 10/06/2008, -1/+8My Dad's office still uses Windows 2000 for security reasons or ease of use or something...
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -1/+7It uses half the resources of XP, - maybe the PCs are old. It can be as secure used as clients with strict user limitations combined with W2003 on the server.
- Devilboy666, on 10/06/2008, -5/+11The joke is on them: Windows 7 is just Vista with a new theme. True story.
- gcnaddict, on 10/06/2008, -5/+11Yes, I will continue to make this claim because I've personally witnessed people appreciate the ease of use which Vista brings to the table.
Example: The start search feature lets people find any application by pressing the Windows key and simply typing the first few letters (or part of the application name from anywhere). That single feature cut the amount of time users I've encountered spent looking for applications by as much as two minutes, which let them jump right to work without frustration.
The window previews in the taskbar is another example. Users can just hover over a button in the taskbar and see which application they're looking for if they happen to have many open. Alt-Tab offers the same preview functionality. Again, time saved switching between applications. Time saved is money made, which is what matters to businesses.
Cleartype was refined, leading to improved reading of text on displays as high as 250DPI without changing the DPI Vista was set to. This reduces eye strain for people working in front of LCDs, again increasing the amount of time people can spend being productive.
Finally, I can't tell you how many people I know who have appreciated how many attacks UAC has blocked from occurring. Thanks to developer efforts, UAC prompts are now usually triggered only when installing new applications or when something tries to take unauthorized advantage of system resources. Many devs have learned that user-level resource usage is far more responsible than system-level resource usage, which means UAC can finally serve its purpose.
Should I keep going? I've witnessed the benefits of all of these in practice, so let's refrain on the elitist bit. - roxgod666, on 10/06/2008, -6/+12I have high hopes for windows 7. They are actually using Vista service pack 1 as the beta so there well be a lot less bugs. The kernal is completely stripped down and the boot up time is rumored to be a lot better. It will also be using ribbon from office on most of its applications like word pad, paint, and even calculator
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/Win7 ... - IamSunstorm, on 10/06/2008, -2/+7You realize that you can revert to the old interface in all of six clicks, right?
- archer75, on 10/06/2008, -1/+6Alot of the issues with Vista come from drivers. The driver models have changed and they needed to. So it takes time for hardware vendors to come up with quality drivers.
Windows 7 uses the same driver model and drivers will have had 4 years to mature by the time windows 7 comes out. So it won't have those problems. - hadak, on 10/06/2008, -2/+7They should really just start over. Apple did it with OS X, and look where they've come since OS9. Really, Microsoft, quit stacking ***** on top of *****, clear the plate, and start from scratch. Completely from scratch. ***** the backwards compatibility. We can use a vm if we need to...just FIX it, and we'll move away from it, like we did with classic.
- SniperZero, on 10/06/2008, -2/+7Shouldn't it be
Do not pass go, Save $200. - mlvassallo, on 10/06/2008, -7/+12Vista isn't bad. Apparently digg is full of people who have as much OS knowledge as my grandmother.
- RaulMuadDib, on 10/06/2008, -2/+7Go Kart!
- jvincent08, on 10/06/2008, -5/+10That's what I was thinking. Why would anyone in the IT department use Windows?
- chaoswings, on 10/06/2008, -3/+8I may be wrong but I think Microsoft no longer supports 2000. Which means they no longer release security patches. So it is less secure then XP or Vista...
- blankoboy, on 10/06/2008, -4/+9Why bother going to Windows 7 even? If it ain't broke don't fix it. XP works fine for corporate environments. Don't let Microsoft bully you into paying $$$ to follow their roadmaps. If it comes to that, switch to Linux or Mac. I've had enough of their *****.
- jmkiii, on 10/06/2008, -4/+9"OSX, it's good enough for government work."
Apple's new slogan- - JonForTheWin, on 10/06/2008, -4/+9I work in a big company and we absolutely hate vista.
- EntropyFan, on 10/06/2008, -7/+12It is common. But if you want to make headlines on Digg, you need to say 'Everyone skipping Vista!', not 'Everyone not switching to Apple!'
After all, they aren't switching from MS at all. MS software works too well, and they plan to stay with MS.
That doesn't go over well here. - armo, on 10/06/2008, -0/+5In MS speak
beta = alpha
release = beta
sp1 = release candidate
sp2 = good to go - briansearles, on 10/06/2008, -0/+5XP came out 7 years ago, please tell me you're not using the same one when that came out?
Vista runs alright with a 2GHz processor and 1GB of RAM - of course the more you put in the more it shines, but whatever, you can make do with that. If you don't have that, you're not even running XP very well. - rubenz, on 10/06/2008, -0/+4I work for a multi-billion dollar biotech company, and while most of our workstations run XP, a couple of our older instruments depend on programs that only run on NT.
- eliotmat, on 10/06/2008, -0/+4When linux doesn't suck and mac gets good gaming support I'll be there.
- Xibby, on 10/06/2008, -4/+8Vista is fine for home users and small companies that don't have establish procedures for automating installations and desktop management, or have custom applications critical to running their business. For companies who have spend the past 8 or 9 years supporting Windows 2000 and/or Windows XP, Windows Vista is far from a drop in place upgrade. The first time I joined a Windows Vista computer to our Active Directory domain Vista refused to let me log in after all the Group Policy had applied to the system. A number of changes later that has been resolved, but there are still other issues yet to be addressed. Symantec AntiVirus corporate edition for example had two separate versions: one that is Vista only and one that is Windows 2000/XP. The Windows client for our IT helpdesk/ticket system runs on Vista but many things don’t display properly on Windows Vista (32 or 64 bit), or on WinXP 64. Add 64 bit into the mix and things get more complicated: Now you have four versions of AntiVirus software in use. One for Win2K/XP, one for XP64, one for Vista, and another for Vista 64. For the most part, Windows XP was a drop in replacement for Windows 2000. Management was improved, but network installations used the same systems and just about everything that worked with 2000 worked for XP as well. Windows Vista is just not a drop in upgrade, and in a time when companies are running with as few resources as possible dedicating man hours to updating desktop management for Vista is not an option.
- gcnaddict, on 10/06/2008, -1/+5Wow, IamSunstorm. It's good to see someone who understands the concept.
It seems like most of digg has no concept of how often they run some apps. I myself use WLM, Photoshop, Word, Outlook, Firefox, Windows Live Writer, Trillian, the Zune client, and utorrent every single day. Vista superfetches those apps in order of frequency, which always results in Firefox being fetched first. Everything loads in a snap, which is ***** awesome.
Thank God there's someone else who gets the point. - dullnation, on 10/06/2008, -3/+7AHEM...
*overkill for most common computer tasks*
You're just being pretentious if you think your 2gb doesn't make the cut for this...
I've also used x86 Vista and x64, and I honestly saw no improvement over stability on vista x64 - morepowerr, on 10/06/2008, -1/+5I have an linux to do most of my stuff on and an box with XP for games.
Why should I blow a bunch of cash. When I can make XP look as good if not better then vista. With a themes and a google sidebar.
I wish I could scrape the hole XP UI and just have a game EMU version of widows. -
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