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- adiyo011, on 11/29/2008, -2/+76What a dumb title, it's innacurate.
Actual article title: "Is Free Microsoft PC Security Dangerous? Tech Analyst Larry Magid Worries Software Giant's Free Anti-Malware May Stifle Competition"
Yet in the article it states that Microsoft will NOT bundle the software with the OS because they take concerns about anti-trust lawsuits.
Also, the bobbing comment box is really annoying. - d1ckinabox, on 11/30/2008, -1/+23please tell me the next release is going to be named 2morro
- adiyo011, on 11/29/2008, -2/+14Read the article...
- iofthestorm, on 11/30/2008, -0/+10Uninstall that Norton, it's a serious resource hog. After I switched to Avast my boot times were literally halved.
- sockpuppets, on 11/30/2008, -2/+11There's 2 r's to lure pirates in.
- akchrs, on 11/30/2008, -3/+12I just have an expired version of Norton AV. Not clicking on links to nude Britney Spears pictures really pays off.
- akchrs, on 11/30/2008, -0/+9I should. I remember when Norton was one of the best, now it sucks.
- inactive, on 11/30/2008, -3/+10Why would MS face anti-trust lawsuits? If Apple can bundle their OS with all sort of Apps, then surely so can MS.
- jasmus, on 11/30/2008, -3/+10What if your OS doesn't really need it? I know, tyhere are trojans out there that will affect both OS X and Linux, but so far they all fall into the "i'm dumb enough to give it my root password" bag.
- mvader, on 11/30/2008, -2/+9@smotpoker
How is iWeb compatible with other WYSIWYG designers (for that matter, how are any of them)?
How is iTunes compatible with other mp3 players?
How is the iPod compatible with anything non-iTunes?
Apple is FAR more secretive and closed than MS is. - kd420, on 11/30/2008, -3/+10I would never pay for antivirus anyways (I use Linux, but still) since there's no way to throw money at the problem. Even if these people are on the bleeding edge of updating virus definitions, you can never find a virus till it is released and infects a computer. In this regard, I would never pay for something that is just playing catch up, when there are other free programs doing the same.
- awolfe91, on 11/30/2008, -3/+10And common Windows apps like Photo Gallery and Movie Maker aren't?
- kmcippant, on 11/30/2008, -1/+7I've been using OneCare for a year now and I like it. It's easy to set up, unobtrusive and it doesn't seem to suck away the resources on my 4 year old desktop. It doesn't nag me like norton does, the quickbar icon is just orange or red if I don't do what it wants.
- asdffdas1234, on 11/30/2008, -1/+7Well if you are using windows as your primary OS you are already trusting the with _everything_, how could it get any worse?
- bipolarruledout, on 11/30/2008, -1/+7Considering Windows is their product then perhaps they should offer such services for free. After all it's was their own design decisions that perhaps allowed such vulnerabilities. Either that or you can place the blame on the end user to allowing execution of untrusted processes.
- TMTurtle, on 11/30/2008, -0/+6The point is, it's using a Cavuto mark.
"Is Free Microsoft PC Security Dangerous?"
"Do Democrats hate your freedoms?"
"Do Pepsi-Cola products cause Cancer?"
It's a question, but it's pretty obvious what the intent is. - GarryBarker, on 11/30/2008, -12/+17You shouldn't trust Microsoft with anything.
- Neo139, on 11/30/2008, -3/+8you must be proud
- mustang460, on 11/30/2008, -0/+5I'm curious, what is this "non-regular" bad browsing?
- benologist, on 11/30/2008, -2/+6Some people will be comfortable using a whole suite of seperate programs but it really is very convenient to have just one program doing it all for you, whether it's MS or another vendor.
- Twinnie, on 11/30/2008, -1/+5What exactly do Microsoft force you to use? This isn't an Apple product, the MS lawsuits were about bundled software and the inability to uninstall said software, but they never forcibly stopped you just using other software instead.
MS release a product for free and Diggers still jump at the first chance to make baseless criticism before they've even RTFA. - fuzzynyanko, on 11/30/2008, -1/+5I wonder if it'll keep Sony at bay
- bipolarruledout, on 11/30/2008, -2/+6Do you think you could elaborate a little bit more on why it's so bad?
- deltron, on 11/30/2008, -3/+7Kaspersky FTW.
- sturmgiest, on 11/30/2008, -0/+4source for your last statement? or proof? Ive only ever heard good things about avg, other than the version 8 interface is slow
- PabloMac, on 11/30/2008, -3/+6Sorry to hear your laptop is worthless.
- inactive, on 11/30/2008, -0/+3If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you.
- bigpook, on 11/30/2008, -5/+8I feel like I am missing out. I run linux but please don't flame me. I just find it interesting that there is all this malware/virus/trojan etc... out there and that windows is so vulnerable to it.
I don't use any of that stuff with my linux box.
Khast wrote that he uses like 5 different programs to keep his machine clean. Wow! Thats a lot of stuff to run just to keep the machine from getting hosed. - DivisibleByZero, on 11/30/2008, -0/+3After a number of years using the Internet, you should surely be aware that anybody who picks up malware is part of some ***** botnet, and is hurting all of us, not just himself. He's not getting what he deserves. His computer runs a little bit slower and it annoys him, but innocent people are the victims of spam and denial of service attacks because of him. That's much worse, and that's why we need to care about preventing people from getting malware.
- pika2000, on 11/30/2008, -0/+2Many of security software existed simply because of the bugs/flaws in Windows. Obviously seeing Microsoft profiting from the flaws of their own software doesn't bode well with users. On the other hand, this won't bode well on 3rd party freewares. From the users standpoint, this is good, as it reduced the confusion. Most users kinda knows they need some sort of security software for Windows. Having a free one from Microsoft themselves makes it easier for lay users to secure their PCs. TBH, this is another reason I moved to Mac. I'm tired of choosing, updating, tweaking, my security softwares on my Windows PCs just so I can go online safely.
- leonardoty, on 11/30/2008, -4/+6Microsoft OneCare sucks, I just got a new laptop and its pretty much worthless anyway
- Twinnie, on 11/30/2008, -0/+2I don't use firewalls or anything but for antivirus you should try Nod32.
- chriskeyes, on 11/30/2008, -0/+2I've had OneCare for a long time, and I find it works well. Unlike some other antivirus suites, OneCare isn't too annoying at all, and it's not a performance killer. The color icons (red, yellow, and green) also make it simple, and setting OneCare up is a breeze.
You can also install OneCare on 3 PC's, and it's easy to manage them all by designating a computer as a central hub. I don't know if any other AVs do that, but I like OneCare. - glitchbit, on 11/30/2008, -3/+5wasn't there an article earlier this morning talking about 9 freakin vulnerabilities in Linux? A number of them relating to exploits having to do with drivers loaded in memory. But yea at least with Linux being open source they were all fixed quickly on the kernel level, imagine if MS updated their kernel for every vulnerability and new exploit every few weeks.... they'd never break existing applications via this method (/sarcasm).
You make your trade offs and all 3 OS's have their place and I use them all. If they didn't then we'd be left with 1 or 2 and I welcome competition, so get over yourself. - felipe1982, on 11/30/2008, -0/+2To-Morrow, to-Morrow, I love ya tomorrow, you're only a virus away!
- teamparadox, on 11/30/2008, -1/+3I use nothing but a firewall, every once and a while ill install something to do a scan...never turns up anything. Why bog down your system when just being safe online works so much better.
- glitchbit, on 11/30/2008, -1/+3I think AV protection partly comes from obscurity if everyone was to use the same one then everyone would also be vulnerable to the exact same stuff it misses... making you not much better off than you were.
Also I think it was proven awhile back that NOD32 was the best at detecting new possible threats before any official definitions were to be created for said infection. - igmuska, on 12/23/2008, -0/+1For stand-alone computers, just download Group Policy, and set your own security up pronto. why go through the slowdowns on XP
- eekfuh, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1Well said.
- xevidentx, on 11/30/2008, -1/+2this just in: mac retards are mac retards
- PinkyTheWinky, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1They can't:
"Microsoft’s software will not be bundled with Windows but must be downloaded separately. I was told on background by a Microsoft employee that the company takes antitrust issues very seriously as it develops new products.
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In other words: bundling software with windows will cause them to get sued for killing the competition. - DivisibleByZero, on 11/30/2008, -2/+3I'm not really sure how competition among antivirus vendors is a good thing. Competition works for other industries, where innovation drives to the creation of newer products, and competition encourages that innovation.
But in the antivirus business, that competition comes between the security people fighting hackers, not each other. A grand security monopoly would have just as much incentive to fix bugs and a larger pool of people available to work on them. Mcafee and Symantec wouldn't each be duplicating the same work in parallel like they are now. - V3NOM, on 11/30/2008, -1/+2I just use Kaspersky AV (not Internet Security) 2009 and the built-in Windows Firewall. My PC runs just fine without the other 4 programs.
The only people that need a bunch of security software are people who can't resist opening every attachment in every e-mail they recieve.
(I use Gmail, and hardly anything gets through the spam filter, so I pretty much never get any bad e-mails in my Inbox anyway, but if something does I don't click the attachment. And if the title has "Penis" spelled with a "1" instead of an "I" then I don't even open it. Simple as that.) - PinkyTheWinky, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1I don't think it will affect the market negatively. They are not bundling it with windows. IE6 Ruled because it came with windows. Most users who install and use antivirus software are also quite tech savvy, and usually choose a product based on it's merit. Microsoft probably also knows that if they kill competition, they will solely be the protectors of the Windows platform, which is a scary prospect to say the least.
- Twinnie, on 11/30/2008, -1/+2Well A/V software gets updated several times per day, I don't want to have to restart my system that often just for the sake of the antivirus.
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 11/30/2008, -1/+2There isn't a major competitive threat represented by 5% of the computer market using overpriced niche/clique marketing computers. It's the other 95% that represents a monopoly issue.
- pika2000, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1Who says MS has to secure Windows completely? Buried for missing the point.
- Technopundit, on 11/30/2008, -3/+4After a number of years servicing PC's, I believe anyone who picks up malware DESERVES IT!!
- iwin2000, on 11/30/2008, -1/+2I see what you did there.
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