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- LiquidSpark, on 01/26/2009, -20/+170Summary:
"Hey! remember when I was a dumb ***** that couldn't install an os?". "I'm still a dumb ***** and I might have trouble installing Windows 7". - LastManInTown, on 01/26/2009, -20/+96Another boring piece of crap that offers nothing insightful.
- MarkusDee, on 01/26/2009, -15/+73"My own private Vista hell."
Get bent. - Aitese, on 01/26/2009, -6/+63So, he says he couldn't get "Vista to work with some level of stability on my network" yet it was stable enough for someone to remote login for about two hours?
- norman619, on 01/26/2009, -8/+51This person has forgotten history. EVERYTIME MS released a new version of Widnows we saw this same crap. Even when XP came out people were bitching and screaming about how horrible XP was. All you have to do is do a google search and you will find the very same complaints people are making aganst Vista being leveld at Vista today. Whenever people are forced to change to a new OS or switch to a MAJOR upgrade of their OS they will ALWAYS bitch and complain until they learn how to use it properly. It's never smart to be an early adopter of an OS. You want to wait a year or two to let the peopel how MUST have the latest and greatest beta test it for the OS manufacturer and allow them to release the needed patches. The problem with Vista was the fact that is was designed to run on, what were at the time of release, highend systems. It ran crappy for most people because most people were installing it on underpowered systems which also didn't have enough RAM. It didn't help that the MS minimum reqs for Vista were misleading at best. Windows 7 will have a better welcome because it's basically Vista just more efficient and faster. I couldn't think about installing Vista on my old laptop but Windows 7 runs just fine on it. It's fast and stable. The install was just as painless and my Vista install. It actually went out and found ALL the drivers it needed on teh internet to run all the devices of my old IBM laptop. I hope the final version will be as good as this beta.
The author of this article has no business wringing about this subject since it's pretty damn obvious he hasn't a friggen clue. - inactive, on 01/26/2009, -11/+43This guy is a ***** noob.
- zinnternet, on 01/26/2009, -2/+29That article? Yeah, that got my vote for boring piece of crap.
Cliffs:
1) Author makes dig at other authors praising Windows 7
2) Author whines about Windows Vista
3) ?
4) Author fails to make point - inactive, on 01/26/2009, -6/+32Oh you made the S a dollar sign. You're so clever.
- jordanmoore, on 01/26/2009, -9/+32My Vista upgrade ran smoothly without any problems.
- rgersmrk, on 01/26/2009, -5/+26Buried for being a bad speculation article with no insight.
- das7282, on 01/26/2009, -9/+26History repeating?... Microsoft makes a new product and the bull ***** slinging begins.
- MacParrot, on 01/26/2009, -1/+15Most of what I've heard so far about Windows 7 has been very positive. Microsoft hopefully will learn from the mistakes they made with Vista and deliver something much better.
1. No more than three versions please (Home, Business, Enterprise) with each version fully featured for what users of that type of product might need.
2. Don't over-promise and then under-perform. There were a lot of features promised in Vista that were pulled at the last minute which left a bad taste in the mouths of many.
3. Have a firm release date. Better to release it early feature-complete than to have a release date that has to be pushed back over and over again.
The fact that this beta seems to work really well is a good sign that Windows can move on from all the bad press of Vista and that Microsoft deliver a really good product. - inactive, on 01/26/2009, -3/+16This.
- ShadySpace, on 01/26/2009, -1/+13He's referring to the article. "Insightful" isn't really an apt adjective for an OS.
- Davids26, on 01/26/2009, -2/+14I read until the guy started quoting himself. Didn't see a reason to go on.
- identifiedlogo, on 01/26/2009, -11/+23Nonsense, why talk about it then. if you cant install windows OS then thats it!
Im running Windows 7 Beta, and it backed up and upgraded my vista. - robbiekhan, on 01/26/2009, -5/+17It's not very private if you're telling everyone about it...
- angrydroid, on 01/26/2009, -6/+18Someone call the waaaaahmbulance!
- twiztidsinz, on 01/26/2009, -0/+11CNet: *fapfapfap* Windows sucks.. *fapfapfap* Vista's bad.. *fapfapfap* Driver issues! DRIVER ISSUES!!!! *spooge*
- digitalpencil, on 01/26/2009, -5/+15I would've thought that the former editor of CNET would possess a little more prowess with the written word but you can hardly have a go at the guy for struggling with Vista in the early days.. LOTS of people struggled with Vista after it first came out.
Yes, he's probably not particularly tech-savvy and none of us would've endured a 4 hour conference with some MS phone-jockey attempting to RC but you have to remember that the vast majority of the market are of equal technical ability. Most people are idiots when it comes to computing and when you produce an OS for the mass-market you have to ensure that your target demographic are actually capable of installing and reliably using the ***** thing.. 'out of the box'.
MS sorted Vista out pretty fast afaic but a lot of people here act like anyone who's ever had any problem with it is either a) a liar or b) some sort of retard.. like Vista could never do any wrong. I'm not sure where this mentality arose from, perhaps a rebuttal against all the undeserved bashing it received in the early years and probably being unfairly dubbed MEII didn't help any.
Regardless, W7 is shaping up quite well and I have to say I'm having a lot of fun with the beta and have seen reduced operation/boot times (although not as dramatic as some would like to believe) on a couple of my home-brew machines.
It's still early days but in my eyes, MS are paving a more solid foundation for future platform innovation and it's a great thing to see from the developers of the OS we're all so familiar with, that many hate to love and others love to hate. - BuzzFriendly, on 01/26/2009, -6/+163.0, 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, XP, Vista, W7 all installed fine if you know what your doing. Guy lost me when he admitted to calling MS for PAID support.
- megamod, on 01/26/2009, -1/+11I chose to read the article before being biased by reading the comments section. I'm glad I'm not alone...
That was keyboard diarrhea. - theaceoffire, on 01/26/2009, -2/+10Hey, $ome of u$ have $peech impediment$, you in$en$itive clod.
- groo68, on 01/26/2009, -2/+10I would say that's pretty good for an OS with a reputation of having terrible networking support.
- techdever, on 01/26/2009, -4/+11+1 diggs for you sir
- p51d007, on 01/26/2009, -2/+9I go back to windows 2.0...THAT was fun ;)
I haven't had ANY issues with Vista on my laptop, but it's "new" enough hardware wise to work. On my desktop, I've left XP on it until I rebuild it.
If a person is trying to install Vista on anything less than 2 gig of ram, you'll probably have issues waiting for the hourglass every time you want to do something. I've heard 7 runs ok on 1 gig of ram. I have it running on my laptop with 2 gig of ram, and it is IMPRESSIVE for a beta. NO issues on my end.
Operating systems ARE NOT toaster ovens. You don't simply plug them in and turn them on....if that's what you are after, buy a Mac. - SanTe, on 01/26/2009, -1/+8"Another boring piece of crap that offers nothing insightful."
The *.cnet.com domain didn't tip you off?... - VeritasAequitas, on 01/26/2009, -2/+8You know I'm not even a windows guy and this bothers me. In my office I'm the guy that picks on windows the most, I prefer Unix based OS's. But even I run a windows Vista machine on my desk that dual boots Ubuntu and is next to my leopard desktop and laptop. Guess what they all have upgrades, and when they do some things change. Is it a little annoying at times, you bet. Especially when you need to do something quickly and find out the process is different or something has moved or whatever. But the answer to that is, DONT JUMP IN TOO QUICK! Don't rev your production machine right away, if you use it for work maybe you should move ahead slowly and test. or partition your damn drive and have both on there so if something doesn't work you can reboot into what you know will work. Change happens and if you work in or on technology especially computers you better get used to it.
- WinGeek, on 01/26/2009, -7/+13This is a blog post about an old blog post about vista issues that the person HOPES does not happen with Windows 7. Save yourself and don't click on this junk.
- inactive, on 01/26/2009, -3/+9This article is *****. OK, you had problems installing Vista a year ago. I installed 7 in 20 minutes with no problems on a 1.5Ghz with 1g RAM. It runs faster than the XP sp3 it replaced. He had to wait 4 hours on tech support call? Maybe because it was during the release and many were having problems. Who do you call when your Linux distro has a problem (and don't say it never does, or you wouldn't need an update every 2 days). OK, Vista had a rocky start, but its great now. Even the author admits not a single problem in the last year. But instead of "hoping" the 7 transition will be smooth, he could try it now, its pretty easy to do. Just another attempt at page views for mentioning Windows 7.
- Auzy, on 01/26/2009, -4/+9Great, so its an article about his first experience with the first version, of an OS that is years old now. Whilst completely ignoring that Vista drivers mostly work on Windows 7 already.
I'd love to hear about his experience with OS9, and how that relates to OSX maybe?
Sorry, but this might have been front page worthy years ago, but reminiscing about the recent past (which is irrelevant now) REALLY is pointless - inactive, on 01/26/2009, -2/+7You are the reason that us Windows users won't just not try Linux, but actually despise it. You call us liars for liking something. You call us stupid because we'd rather play our games without emulation, or because we like to double-click a file to install it, instead of crawl through forums and enter lines of confusing syntax into the command line. ***** you, you self-righteous piece of *****, just because I like 7 doesn't mean I'm getting paid.
- groo68, on 01/26/2009, -0/+5Don't poke fun, pepspaa will obviously go far. Pepspaa if you have a problem with them releasing a new os every three years just skip every other os. that's what i did with vista because i didn't need it, but in a year it would be nice to change my OS, because xp will be out dated(being 32 bit) and probably not get updates anymore.
- Xearis, on 01/26/2009, -2/+7not to knowledgeable about computers (and or OS's) eh? thats too bad.
you also seem to conveniently forget the problems ALL os's have upon initial release, poor guy. - Table16, on 01/26/2009, -6/+10I expected a little more intelligence.
- AngelaQ, on 01/26/2009, -1/+5Definitely fanboys. Many people who bought the product and installed it according to directions at that time did not get an effortless upgrade. It's the modern popularity of rewriting history combined with the linux mindset that says if you aren't an expert in all things computers you don't deserve to have your computer work for you every time you turn it on.
- MrViklund, on 01/26/2009, -0/+4Exactly.
- norman619, on 01/26/2009, -2/+6No this article should never be front page worthy. It's 100% ignorance.
- castletech, on 01/26/2009, -2/+6You would think someone who works at CNET would know how to install an OS. From TFA: "Anything more complex--e.g. an IIS web server and a wireless network with a windows 2003 file server--and things could take on the consistency of molasses."
Anyone who tries to install Vista on a web server or a file server should be fired. Talk about buzzword abuse. This man is clearly a novice and doesn't deserve a job at a computer related company. - MrViklund, on 01/26/2009, -2/+6Buried for Vista FUD...
I thought that the media finality had get over attacking Vista for page views but apparently not.
I have been running Vista for over a year now and I'm really happy with it and I would not trade back to old XP. For one thing it simply just looks better. Of course you need a new machine if you have an old computer and what's the odd thing about that? If you installed XP on a computer that was delivered with Windows 98, you were in for a sloooow ride too. I will probably upgrade to Windows 7 as soon as possible when it comes out. But that's just because I'm a geek. I'm running Windows 7 in a Virtual Mchine and I can't really see any major difference compared to Vista. Some things are different, but not allot. It probably runs faster as everyone is saying, but if you didn't like Vista, you won't like Windows 7, it's just the same thing over again and to jump from XP to Windows 7 would be an even bigger hop for users. I'm really sad that the Vista story eneded up like it has. But the media is to blame for that since they could not stop attacking Vista to get cheap page views. It's always a good attention grabber to attack Microsoft and say how much they suck and how Linux rules... And even though we have been told the same story every year... since the beginning of dawn, we are still yet to see "The Year of the Linux Desktop"... I'm happily running Vista, it's a nice system, it play games well, even the oldest games and with SP1 it slowed most of the problems people had. This is also the story I hear from allot of people. When they actually tries Vista, they like it. And can't really see what people are complaining about. Well, it's really nothing they are attacking. But it always fun and pays in page views and gives the opportunity to write a ***** rant article to kick on Microsoft and Windows a bit. Why don't you just then STFU and go and install Ubuntu then... Which everyone seems to praise but no one actually runs... - inactive, on 01/26/2009, -5/+9You're kind of retarded, And by kind of, I mean ***** you.
- twiztidsinz, on 01/26/2009, -0/+4Two things attributed to all the negative hype about Vista:
1). Misleading/Incorrect "Vista Ready" / "Vista Capable" stickers on OEM PCs.
Microsoft was partially at fault for this, but the majority of the blame should end up on the OEM Manufacturers (Dell, Compaq, HP, etc) shoulders. First, they went along with it, allowing their PCs to be labeled better than they were in order to drive more sales. Second, they continually offer junk and crippled systems/hardware at hugely inflated prices in order to make sure that people will have to buy newer hardware every few years.
Five years ago, my self-built PC cost me right around $550. The closest I could find to match my specs would have cost me over $1000 from HP.
2). Broad access to information for everyone.
Back when Windows XP was released, the Internet wasn't as widely used as it is today. Part of what fuled the negative hype about Windows Vista was that, since far more people have access to the internet now, far more people can share their opinions on a wide range of topics. Unfortunately, most of the people who feel entitled to share their opinions at every chance they get often don't know the whole of the story (which is why gossip is so popular). Soon, people are writing reviews based only on what they've heard from other people, or exaggerated from what they've actually read on a news site. And lets not forget the people who make money off the internet through ad's... they add pretty little sensational headlines in order to drive traffic to their site.
I've used Windows since 3.1/3.11 and before that, MS-DOS. I've used just about every version of Windows I could get my hands on. I do not claim to be a computer expert, but I am knowledgeable and do have first-hand experience with the operating systems.
While I love using Windows Vista, I will say this:
Windows Vista is not perfect. There are things I do not like about the OS.
However, many of things that people complain about, can be explained. - bjornski, on 01/26/2009, -0/+4Well hell, why not just wait for holographic data storage then! It's only a few more years more to wait.
- norman619, on 01/26/2009, -3/+7Wrong. I've been in IT for a long time now and I can tell you most of the time the people doing the complaining are talking out of their ass. Even in my helpdesk days people who complained about their Windows didn't knwo enough about Windows to make such complaints. Their ignorance was usually the cause of their issues and not the OS.
- dstz, on 01/26/2009, -0/+3It's not the only issue. I use XP for music production (borderline pro) and vista ain't very compatible with the ubiquitous audio driver (ASIO) or older pro audio cards... the only things that would be an improvement for an OPERATING SYSTEM (labels/tags for files for example) ain't there, and while we struggle with CPU intensive real time tasks, the new OS is slower. And I don't need an OS that is 4go or something, if its more than a few hundred megs it's obviously bloatware.
And for all those issues, what do we get, REALLY: a new look? wtf.
It's like people forgot that an OS ain't here to be nice on the eyes.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/31/m ...
"For music professionals, though, it's a dealbreaker. Will Benger, a musician who also works at Making Waves Audio, a music technology retailer, advises his customers to stick with XP. "Vista is riddled with issues with existing software packages and existing hardware," he says. "If you've got problems with recording audio, you might not get a second chance. You can't sell a system to a professional studio if you don't know for sure that it's going to work." - castletech, on 01/26/2009, -0/+3Well said. This man's issues with Vista are clearly a product of his ignorance. I personally hate the OS but not even installing linux would create 4 hours of issues. I never really ran into the issues everyone is talking about. Vista never crashes and driver issues were rare in my experience and I build/load/configure machines.
When I read he had support logged into his machine for 4 hours I laughed, he was probably being an ***** on the phone and got charged for it. It was probably nothing that major and definitely not 4 hours worth of labor due to the fact he was receiving support remotely. What an *****. - FredFredrickson, on 01/26/2009, -0/+3gmuslera, you're not a Windows user, are you? If you were, you might understand that instead of releasing for-pay service packs (a la Mac OS X), Microsoft does make big changes to their OS, and sometimes those changes cause problems for people running older / obscure hardware. It's worth the bumps in the road, however, because once they get things sorted, everything usually runs great.
- javaroast, on 01/26/2009, -0/+3If it made no points why would you reply and how did you summarize my points so well?
- ahawks, on 01/26/2009, -0/+3No, you're allowed to dislike vista.
It's trendy to love Windows 7.
This guy is just an ass trying to ride the Windows 7 publicity to remind the world about his Vista problems. This article has nothing to do with Windows 7, is now completely obsolete and irrelevant. -
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