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- reach4thelasers, on 02/04/2008, -10/+141Why is it that the world's biggest internet advertiser (Google) buying the second biggest internet advertiser (Doubleclick) is acceptable..... but Microsoft (3rd biggest web portal) buying Yahoo (2nd biggest web portal) is unacceptable.
Why is it that Google being the default search engine in Firefox is acceptable; but Windows live being the default on IE is unacceptable.
Microsoft-bashing aside for a minute.... why does google get away with this stuff consistently and why does a different set of rules apply to them? I'm as much a google fanboy as the rest - but looking objectively I don't like what I see from google recently they've had zero competition in a decade and have become completely anti-competitive. They should welcome the challenge! - ssj2119, on 02/04/2008, -15/+62"Is this a reasonable response, or fear mongering? It strikes me as more of the latter, to be honest."
Me too actually, it strikes me as fear at first, but then this is google; they are most likely just saying what's on everyones minds...that's what I get when I read again - Microsoft is a disrupter, they like to disrupt market's in order to take market share and build upon it - just look at the Xbox. They don't care how much money they lose or the effects, aslong as they disrupt the competition, ie, Google. Google seems pissed. - dangero, on 02/04/2008, -3/+37This official response makes Google look like it's scared of Microsoft.
- trigatch4, on 02/04/2008, -4/+34Senior VP of Google says, "While the Internet rewards competitive innovation, Microsoft has frequently sought to establish proprietary monopolies—and then leverage its dominance into new, adjacent markets,"
That's exactly what Google is doing with Android and the Mobile market. It's called capitalizing on opportunity and maximizing profits and growth for stock holders. Stop whining Google...
By the way just read that HTC will launch 3 android phones in 2008 and Dell will make an android phone too... I can't wait for android: http://www.phandroid.com - 8bit_Hero, on 02/04/2008, -5/+30I couldn't have put it better myself. Google is the 600lb gorilla of the internet. Microsoft is just trying to compete.
- minoss, on 02/04/2008, -4/+26This is such a stupid response. Oh no, innovation on the internet is threatened because MS and Yahoo merge! *****. For every company that gets purchased there's always 2 more that come up. There will never, ever be a monopoly over anything on the internet simply because the cost of entry is so low. If someone comes up with a better idea and implements it well, chances are people are going to latch on (ie - digg). This is simply Google whining about a competitor.
- inactive, on 02/04/2008, -12/+32cue the Google fanboys bashing microsoft
- zatrix, on 02/04/2008, -7/+27Google I like you. But you're acting like a whiny little bitch.
- inactive, on 02/04/2008, -9/+28So you mean the Gaming market would have been better without 360?!! and was disrupted by it?!!!!
- alwaysmc2, on 02/04/2008, -3/+21First look at Microsoft's OS market share: http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid= ...
Now look at Google's search market share: http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid= ...
Of course Google does! - dangero, on 02/04/2008, -8/+26Google is such a bully on the playground. They push everyone else around when they can, and then when the older bigger kids come around they tattle and cry to the yard duty. Please. The biggest threat to innovation on the Internet is google's monopoly on search and information.
- borez, on 02/04/2008, -1/+17Pot, kettle...Black
- 8bit_Hero, on 02/04/2008, -3/+18i think he's saying the xbox was a good thing. added competition. made sony have to rethink what they are doing. first with HDD, first with broadband online MP, first step into making a console more like a PC. Xbox was revolutionary and changed the VG industry.
- daveisfera, on 02/04/2008, -2/+17The whole "do no evil" creed is quickly fading into the distance.
- whiteguysamurai, on 02/04/2008, -0/+14They are, Microsoft has much to gain in this market, a market that Google controls.
Microsoft is the only real competition Google has. - inactive, on 02/04/2008, -5/+18People are driving to linux because of Vista?
- whiteguysamurai, on 02/04/2008, -3/+14Google is just trying to secure it's own monopoly, not that this merger would do anything about that.
Competition is a good thing, even if it's from "evil" old Microsoft. - vasudevg, on 02/04/2008, -3/+14Microsoft replies to Google reaction:
http://vasudevg.blogspot.com/2008/02/google-reacts ... - leonhyral, on 02/04/2008, -3/+13I don't understand, but I'll give you a second shot at rephrasing your joke. I can't guarantee you'll be dugg up though.
- lewhich, on 02/04/2008, -8/+17I bet you have flash installed, right!
- phoomp, on 02/04/2008, -1/+10"why does google get away with this stuff consistently"
Because they keep telling us they're not evil. - id000001, on 02/04/2008, -1/+9How are they exactly the same thing?
1) Google do not have a monopoly on Mobile market, no cell phone maker are forced to use it or only able to call 15% of the rest of the world
2) Even if Google have such a monopoly, they did not force anyone to use their product by threatening to sell them all or nothing.
I understand that you are not comparing google with MS's monopoly tactic, but that is what the senior VP was talking about. It isn't whining, it is a judgment base on the past practice MS have done and found guilty of.
If MS don't want people to bring it up they shouldn't have done illegal practice in the first place. - chrismgtis, on 02/04/2008, -1/+9"Microsoft/Yahoo hookup will ruin the Internet".
Yea, because everyone knows that Yahoo is such a great search engine and if Microsoft ruined Yahoo, the world would be in great peril, having no search engines to turn to.
That was sarcasm, just in case you're wondering. - davidave, on 02/04/2008, -6/+14i heard one of the perks google gives its employees is 20 hours of paid "pissing and moaning" time every year
- esc27, on 02/04/2008, -1/+9Google's afraid of competition. They like the web just as it is right now. A weak Yahoo and nearly non-existent MSN.
Microsoft buying Yahoo would be big enough to be a threat and prevent Google from dominating all things web.
Google would prefer to keep Yahoo around just for the appearance of competition the same way Microsoft used Apple in the past. - grumpyrain, on 02/04/2008, -2/+10The main concern I would have under such an arrangement is the combined marketshare from Yahoo and MSN Messenger. For some perspective, the combined marketshare of Yahoo search and Live is only around 15%. Hardly going to ruin the internet.
- xhlokx, on 02/04/2008, -3/+11I totally agree with microsoft's response. I highly doubt Microsoft and Yahoo will screw up the internet, if anything it is going to start more innovations.
- OmegaNine, on 02/04/2008, -1/+9I think what he was getting at is, if they can not make money off the market they are in, they will lose money to destroy the competition. Its not about if the xbox was a good console, its about the fact they lost a billion bucks a year making it for the first few years, just so that they would be top of the market. If they do this with the internet (As they have on the PC) they will break standards, and there by break the way the internet works.
- Makaveli604, on 02/04/2008, -3/+10I looked up the directions in google earth.
- staffell, on 02/04/2008, -3/+10jealousy much?
- starsky51, on 02/04/2008, -2/+8Yeah. Flash works perfectly well in Ubuntu. What's your point?
- rowjimmy, on 02/04/2008, -2/+7quantity != quality. you obviously have no idea what you are talking about
85% of the internet are ***** who can't figure out how to use a standards-compliant browser. thanks a lot jackasses for making my job as a developer that much more annoying. then again, as somebody who claims ie7 is the "best web browser available" i wouldn't really expect you to know what "standards compliant" means... - windandstorm, on 02/04/2008, -5/+10Google dosen't want the whole pie... Google wants most of it!
- technocitizen, on 02/04/2008, -0/+5Microsoft has already responded: http://tecnocitizen.blogspot.com/2008/02/borg-reac ...
I really loved the last bit of their response:
Microsoft is committed to openness, innovation, and the protection of privacy on the Internet. We believe that the combination of Microsoft and Yahoo! will advance these goals. - 1jaxstate1, on 02/04/2008, -14/+19Google whining again. Even after the merger, google would still have the dominate market share.
- SniperGX1, on 02/04/2008, -2/+7Microsoft's core business is software. Software is moving towards online components to supplement the platform. Microsoft is sticking to their core business. Greater web offerings may get people interested in those microsoft products that the web services integrate with. Goog is the one who should stick to their core business....text ads.
- FredFredrickson, on 02/04/2008, -2/+7Google owns 60% of the market share for web advertising. Microsoft and Yahoo COMBINED would own 30%.
Google's just trying to use it's "good guy" reputation and Microsoft's "bad guy" reputation to undermine a business deal that would threaten their stranglehold on the market. - id000001, on 02/04/2008, -2/+7I still don't see how Google bullied anyone. When did they ever threaten someone to use their product or else like MS did?
- cpiazza, on 02/04/2008, -1/+6it's a little hypocritical, i think, coming from google given how much control they have over the internet ecomony.
- missingnoh4x, on 02/04/2008, -7/+12"Google suggests that the Redmond Giant could (and would?) use unsavory tactics for unfair advantage"
Wow, Microsoft might use unsavory tactics? Shocking! - DRINKxREDxBULL, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4Isn't google going to bid on the open spectrum and possibly make a GPhone? How in the ***** is that related to their "core" business. Maybe you should stay away from the internet.
- insllvn, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4Sure you can. Both are round. One is red, the other is orange. Both are fruit. Stop propagating this incompatibility myth!
- FredFredrickson, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4Most people who only use the internet casually don't even know what Skype is.
- tekiek, on 02/04/2008, -2/+6I haven't visited a MSN or Yahoo site in years ... ok maybe flickr
- theotheragentm, on 02/04/2008, -2/+6That seems kind of dumb. Of course they care how much money they make. Microsoft has tried to control the market over and over, tossing their money around. I think Google is smart to play off everyone's fears that Microsoft is the bad guy. Just the same Google has their own designs on Yahoo! Just because they make it open doesn't mean it isn't a huge win for them to get their hands on it.
- Repeater2000, on 02/04/2008, -3/+7Google wants Yahoo confirmed.
- tadunne, on 02/04/2008, -3/+7It will be worse than Typing Google in to Google!
- gavroche, on 02/04/2008, -1/+5Ningoopple FTW
- id000001, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4This is very helpful, but for some reason you are being digged down. (Among with a lot of negative comment toward MS)
I suspect seem like either a lot of MS fan boys are here or some of them are paid. (Watch this getting dig down too!) -
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