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- Kink, on 05/18/2008, -5/+71What a nicely laid out website.
- inactive, on 05/18/2008, -3/+50Trying to find the article in this ***** of a web page is like a Where's Waldo book.
- GawtMilk, on 05/18/2008, -2/+31How is downloading a 16KB .VBR file harder than spending a thousand dollars plus on a Mac, learning a new operating system and rebuying / downloading all your old programs, only to realize many of them don't exist, that your games haven't been ported, and that all your files are STILL on a computer that is stuck in an endless boot?
Oh, right, you were TRYING to be funny. - diggymow, on 05/18/2008, -0/+28This shows that HP shouldn't image Intel drivers onto AMD machines.
- pauleric, on 05/18/2008, -7/+30I am a certified MS hater, but I have to say that this isn't MS's fault. Installing an OS image on a computer with a different processor than the one the OS was made for is pretty retarded. Yes, AMD and Intel are very similar, but whoever made that install disk should know better and give instructions for its use.
- twiztidsinz, on 05/18/2008, -6/+29From the Article:
"According to users, Johansson and most recently, Microsoft itself, the problem can be traced to the disk image that HP used to factory-install Windows XP on AMD-based machines. HP, said everyone concerned, used an image created on an Intel-powered PC to install XP on AMD systems; Microsoft had advised computer makers against doing that as long ago as 2004."
THIS IS NOT MICROSOFTS PROBLEM OR FAULT!!! - terajoule, on 05/18/2008, -2/+19lol, HP.
- renegadeafk, on 05/18/2008, -9/+22Why do people bother posting retarded comments like that.
LOL SWITCH TO THE LINUXXX and BUY A MAC!!11
*****' THING SUCKS! - inactive, on 05/18/2008, -1/+14If there is a worse company than MS, it HAS to be HP.
Once again both of them will rely on a non-staffer to bail them out of another unnecessary issue. - cquilliam, on 05/18/2008, -1/+14This is one of the worst websites i've ever seen. Here is the text from the site to save your eyes:
"A former Microsoft security manager has published a tool designed to detect and fix PCs that may be susceptible to "endless reboots" if updated to Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3).
Jesper Johansson, once a program manager for security policy at Microsoft and currently an MVP (Microsoft Most Valuable Professional) who works at Amazon.com, posted a link to the tool on his blog Wednesday, beating his former employer and Hewlett-Packard Co. to the draw. Neither company has yet come up with a fix or patch for the week-long snafu.
Read the latest WhitePaper - Compliance, Protection, Recovery: A Layered Approach to Laptop Security
Johansson's small, 16K VBScript (Visual Basic Scripting Edition) file checks whether the PC is running a processor from Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), and if so, examines the Windows registry to see if a device driver meant for Intel-based machines is set to load.
"If it is, it will offer you an option to disable it," said Johansson in an update to a blog post where he has been summarizing reports of Windows XP SP3 problems and offering solutions.
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Users can run the script from the command line to check multiple machines on a network, Johansson added. The command is:
removeIntelPPMonAMD.vbs ...
"The only caveat is that the tool will prompt you several times for each computer," Johansson added.
The free-of-charge VBScript file is available for download.
The tool is the latest in the week-long problem some users have encountered after upgrading Windows XP to the new service pack. Last week, just a day after Microsoft added XP SP3 to Windows Update, reports accumulated of "endless reboots" crippling machines running AMD CPUs. Many of the users said that the out-of-control PCs were from HP.
According to users, Johansson and most recently, Microsoft itself, the problem can be traced to the disk image that HP used to factory-install Windows XP on AMD-based machines. HP, said everyone concerned, used an image created on an Intel-powered PC to install XP on AMD systems; Microsoft had advised computer makers against doing that as long ago as 2004.
Microsoft was not immediately available for comment on Johansson's detection tool, but traditionally the company has taken a dim view of unsanctioned, unofficial fixes to its software." - jeffmon, on 05/18/2008, -3/+16Easy fix:
1. Boot the computer in safe mode with the command console.
2. Type "sc config intelppm start= disabled", press enter
3. Restart - monarch00, on 05/18/2008, -1/+12Dirty fanboy
- gquaglia, on 05/18/2008, -5/+14Sounds like a MS commercial. This was probably their intent.
- Kratos76, on 05/18/2008, -0/+9Well said. And FTA, it looks to be HP who is responsible.
- SSUK, on 05/18/2008, -0/+9The worst PC I ever owned was a HP. Keep clear of them.
- bigredgpk, on 05/18/2008, -0/+9This is better
http://www.networkworld.com/cgi-bin/mailto/x.cgi?p ...
Hellofa long url, but it's just the article text and links. - fuzzynyanko, on 05/18/2008, -1/+9"Microsoft had advised computer makers against doing that as long ago as 2004." Yeah...
- benitojuarez, on 05/18/2008, -0/+7Agreed, in all honesty this isnt even microsofts responsibility to fix, now if they want to be classy (HAH!) they would release a fix shortly.
- sevenalive, on 05/18/2008, -0/+6You won't believe this but you went from 1 digg to -37 in the 1 minute i was on this page.
- ST0N3, on 05/18/2008, -0/+5Dell
- mediablitz, on 05/18/2008, -1/+6LOL. I don't even own a Mac, but I knew just saying something would bring a bunch of fanboys out, throwing a hissy fit.
Thanks for playing! - piesforyou, on 05/18/2008, -2/+6Crikey!
- Wootstapler, on 05/18/2008, -1/+5http://support.microsoft.com/kb/873161/en-us
- gquaglia, on 05/18/2008, -4/+8Your right. Make XP unpalatable and the lemmings will flock to Vista. Microsoft's douchery never ceases to amaze me.
- estvir, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4And Microsoft IS working on a fix despite it not being their problem.
- twiztidsinz, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4It's not the fault of R&D or anyone at Microsoft at all
The problem is that HP used an Intel built version of XP to install on a AMD PC. - wisiwyg, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4FYI, the blog post is at https://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/20 ... and the VB script download is at https://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/attachment ... (for those of you who want to skip the NWW article).
- EvilCan, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4Comcast.
- grumpyrain, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Sony
- fuzzynyanko, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3I could find it, but when the article is one tiny sliver of the screen, it's annoying. I'd say it's just a little over 1/4 of my screen.
- fuzzynyanko, on 05/18/2008, -4/+7Maybe if they ever made a Mac with an AMD CPU
- bigredgpk, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3http://www.networkworld.com/cgi-bin/mailto/x.cgi?p ...
- grumpyrain, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Ads?
- KMartSheriff, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Dude, as a fellow Mac user, shut the ***** up.
You're the exact reason people hate us Mac users. I love my MacBook Pro, but I hate you ***** fanboys so much. - desertDenizen, on 05/18/2008, -1/+4Buried for unbelievably ***** design. Content aside, I can't condone supporting this ad-slathered vomit bucket of a site.
- MasteRR, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3No. But you could use that Linux CD to rename the Intel driver, in effect disabling it.
- forgeflow, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3I have an Asus A8N32 SLI Deluxe motherboard, and this isn't the fix I need. There is a problem with this specific motherboard that has not been addressed yet by either Microsoft or Asus. I've turned off Automatic updates, and will stick with SP2 until someone gets this sorted out.
- grumpyrain, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2I have observed it on several posts. How hard is it to test a new comments system?
- Nextrix, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2OK as much as I like my Vista, I have to disagree with your comment. XP is still just fine, and I have 2 computers in my house still running it and plan to keep them running on it. Vista is only a good OS if your planning to get a new PC computer. If you don't like it when you try it, then revert it to an XP licence, simple and easy. That is what I might do if I ever get any problems which I am surprised to hell I have not to this day.
If you use your computer for not much business work, gaming and don't have that much technical experience with computers then get a Mac as they are nice. - twiztidsinz, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2Because its not part of the Service Pack.
It's due to the fact that HP used an Intel built version of XP to install on a AMD PC. - KipGhost, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2If you're disk imaging, you could also just rename the "C:WINDOWSSYSTEM32DRIVERSintelppm.sys" file to anything you like, such as "intelppm-no.sys", before you start up the target computer.
- ITFeed, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2its just a case of lazy and retarded HP approach to computing
- mediablitz, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3your one handed typing while you throw a fit over this stuff is funny.
- ChinezePanda, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2Ah. Ok. Gotcha.
I retract half of my previous statement. - MrViklund, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2rofl :)
- StriderNemesis, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2And after following the steps to fix the issue, you won't be able to watch DRM content on Windows Media Center. There's a loss anyway.
- dougsk, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3In defense of Network World's website.
A) The offer a weekly print version of same said website for free.
B) They even offer a weekly pdf of said print version
C) They are pretty much the only place on the planet that tests $100,000+ USD pieces of equipment.
D) Because of C and B, I don't give a ***** about how they generate ad revenue. - inactive, on 05/18/2008, -12/+13Or away from Windows altogether...
- Smegzor, on 05/18/2008, -10/+11I'm so glad I got out before they introduced Windows Reboot Edition.
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