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- gallagherFTW, on 04/27/2008, -11/+183padding the vista sales with downgrades. classy.
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -3/+134Real LINK..............
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/1451 ...
PC World wrote this article not these ***** content thieves. - bratterscain, on 04/27/2008, -9/+77I did for XP and Vista. Not everyone pirates. Not that I'm an angel but an OS is the last thing you should pirate if you want a secure, stable system.
- noahsawyer, on 04/27/2008, -8/+75HP is also doing the same http://digg.com/microsoft/PC_makers_find_ways_to_e ...
- IsmailOo, on 04/27/2008, -17/+72lol, who really cares if it gets taken off the shelf, i'm sure most of you guys with home computers didn't pay for XP...
- TheKeithD, on 04/27/2008, -8/+47You're calling XP a downgrade from Vista? That's implying that Vista is better than XP. Something is wrong here.
- llurker, on 04/27/2008, -6/+39I'm still waiting to hear them admit that about Windows ME.
Ain't going to happen, they have share holders to please. - wush, on 04/27/2008, -7/+39Seems to me like the type of person who'd expressly want XP wouldn't be buying pre-made machines in the first place.
- lfernandez91, on 04/27/2008, -9/+31Ubuntu? OSX?
- MetaDFF, on 04/27/2008, -1/+21MSDN Academic Alliance is another way to get a copy of XP without having to pay.
- Murdats, on 04/27/2008, -6/+26I have been using vista for over a year, and as far as gaming I have had no problems, ran fine on my old computer (well as well as xp did, but there is a reason its now my old computer) and I can almost max out crysis on my new computer, so if I can almost max out crysis in vista, I would say vista is handling games just fine.
also go to a lan, pretty much everyone there is gamers and there is a significant number of vista boxes, do you think they would be running them if they didnt play games well? - OverkillTASF, on 04/27/2008, -2/+21I didn't pay for XP. I got like a dozen promotional copies for attending various seminars.
- terrablebyte, on 04/27/2008, -1/+19FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8 ;)
- Drahkar, on 04/27/2008, -1/+19Its because it allows Microsoft to lie to the public and their stockholders and get away with it. Buy purchasing a Vista 'Downgrade' to XP they get to claim they are selling Vista and that its so wonderful and don't have to suffer the repercussions that most companies do when they shovel out crap onto the consumer.
- psykiv, on 04/27/2008, -3/+21There are too many options. Was it really necessary to make like a hundred versions of vista?
Customer: I want vista
Salesman: Which version? Starter? Home Basic? Home Premium? Home Basic N? Business? Business N? Enterprise? Ultimate? Ultimate Bill Gates Edition?
Customer: uh... I guess I'll take Ultimate.
Salesman: Great! Do you need the 32 bit version or the x64 version?
Customer: :calls 10 year old neighbor who fixes his computer: The 32 bit version
Salesman: Great. So do you want the OEM Version? Or the volume license version? Or the Retail Version? Or the upgrade version?
Customer: ***** this *****. This is too confusing.
Yes, I know, technically you can't buy VL, Enterprise, or starter editions in stores, but you get the point. - ELiTe185, on 04/27/2008, -5/+20It seems that Microsoft will do anything to pad their $14 billion net income.
- richiewrt, on 04/27/2008, -15/+29I too use Vista and XP, and Ubuntu, and Mac and have to say I have had no problems with vista. No problems with gaming or anything. Maybe its because I'm not trying to use a circa 1999 video card anymore. Upgrade your equipment if vista doesn't work. It wasn't designed with your tandy 1000 in mind. I have to say though, all in all, I prefer the Mac or Ubuntu.
- Plastic3D, on 04/27/2008, -0/+14No wonder they bundle Vista upgrades with XP 64 OEMs early 2007.. they must have counted all those I bought as Vista sales. But guess where those upgrade coupons are?
Deep in the file cabinet. - Echomote, on 04/27/2008, -0/+14You whipped out what for your grandma?
- priegog, on 04/27/2008, -9/+22Could you put in a good word for me up there in redmond?
- WillisDickfit, on 04/27/2008, -5/+18Did your Vista machine die on you before you could finish your comment?
- cdigioia, on 04/27/2008, -3/+15Actually, the majority of Dell's sales are to businesses (who have IT departments & thus know to want XP)
- IsmailOo, on 04/27/2008, -11/+23okay bill gates.
- Myztry, on 04/27/2008, -4/+16I've got a ten thousand year old axe. It's had 13 new handles, and 5 new heads. But it's still the same axe.
(Yet another example of deception by substitution...) - marx2k, on 04/27/2008, -3/+14Buried for excessively explaining reason for burying
- edelay, on 04/27/2008, -3/+14I personally think this is brilliant. Microsoft has managed to frame the debate as XP vs Vista instead of Vista vs OSX or Vista vs Linux. They are making your guys argue over which two versions of their product is better.
- Murdats, on 04/27/2008, -1/+11linux wont save you, the new version of ubuntu implements the same form of precaching vista does, and while you wont understand why this is a good thing, wait till you see it in linux and start preparing to praise it (and its a safe bet mac os will implement it in some form soon, and then it will be the best invention ever)
- Zap2, on 04/27/2008, -3/+13So System 76/Dell/Etc doesn't exist? Or people who build there own PCs? ANd what about people with PC from because XP, and installed Linux.
"I had not thought of OS X", drop the "of OS X, and you're set! - Phocion55, on 04/27/2008, -5/+15Buried for unnecessary use of English. Wait....
- krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -1/+11it's funny how many people have memorized.
- gr3yn3t, on 04/27/2008, -4/+14Don't bury him. He's right, you know...
If you don't like the price, don't pay for it. There are alternatives. - stoperror, on 04/27/2008, -3/+12Does this really come as a shock to anyone? As the article states, MS has been doing this for years in the corporate environment. It does; however, make me curious how many copies of Office, Windows, and Windows Server are downgrade licensed. I would estimate that around 50% of the software on the network I manage is licensed this way.
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -0/+9It is the same money but the latter shows that you really screw it up with your latest product.
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -1/+10Just proves they want the money, they really don't care about getting the product out...
- wildmXranat, on 04/27/2008, -0/+9Your tuition pays for part of the licensing fees. That's true for our college.
- AmnioticEntity, on 04/27/2008, -1/+10got an extra cd key i could "borrow" ?
- noclss2000, on 04/27/2008, -1/+10I have a educational version that I got when I was in college, legal copy as well as my copy of Office 2003.
who cares if it gets taken off the shelves? I DO as well as my clients that request us to order them new computers. - frontporsche, on 04/27/2008, -0/+9> Everybody that has linux has XP
How does that follow? - eth3l, on 04/27/2008, -7/+16I have been using Vista since it was released. I cannot stand XP anymore at the office and have been begging IT to let me test a Vista system in our environment.
DIff'rent strokes for Diff'rent folks. - isayx3, on 04/27/2008, -5/+14Yeah..that miscrosoft! wait what browser is this...Safari! how did that happen!?!?!
- dafragsta, on 04/27/2008, -7/+15Hillary Clinton is doing it for Florida and Michigan. Why not?
- grungegbunny, on 04/27/2008, -2/+10Hey I still use winME :p
jk - grimward, on 04/27/2008, -3/+11Well, you know that's pretty much the last resort tactic that lesser skilled opponent will use to win an argument: slander.
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -0/+8lol! yes it did. well then maybe it is time to buy an apple.
- luchid, on 04/27/2008, -0/+8It's wageslaven, what did you expect? His ass is so further up MS's ass he could make a fractal out of himself.
- grimward, on 04/27/2008, -3/+11So you traded one commercial entity for another. Wow, next you'll be telling me how you switched detergent because somebody told you Ariel were bad news! RIVETING!
- burrgrinder, on 04/27/2008, -0/+8I have no problems upgrading hardware if there is a perceived need, but upgrading for an OS is pretty ridiculous, especially for the difference between XP and Vista. Vista offers very minimal improvement for the significantly larger hardware requirements over XP.
DX10 is really the only compelling reason to upgrade. - aseriesoftubes, on 04/27/2008, -10/+18I've been using Vista for six months now and I still miss XP. Not that XP was a great operating system but at least it was stable and a little less bloated.
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