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- alwaysmc2, on 10/11/2007, -2/+32That's not really up to Microsoft, though. Microsoft's job is to create a platform for media companies to sell on. Now those media companies should decide to sell non-DRM'd music.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -8/+36One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.
Public and Private bureaucracies are psychotic without exception.
Bureaucracies nurture psychopaths.
Criminal creation industry seems to be endemic in the United States. - Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18How about selling good music at reasonable prices?
I'd have no problem if the quality of mass marketed music didn't suck these days and the money I spent on CDs actually went to the artists. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+20People hack Apple's DRM, no ones gives a damn. People hack Apple's iPod, no one complains. People hack Microsoft's DRM, everyone scream bloody murder.
- 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17DRM actually helps pirates.
If it's too easy to duplicate things, how can pirates make money when anybody can casually rip whatever they like? Protection systems create the black market they are trying to squelch.
:) - EntangledPhysx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13DRM is so messed up. I bought a Sandisk player that supports a couple DRM formats, but I am unable to install the nice bundled software (for playlists, etc) because it also needs to install the DRM stuff with it--something it can't do for some reason (still on tech support about it). EVEN THOUGH I will never touch anything with DRM on it, it insists on installing it. DRM is creating nothing but headaches... I don't understand why they use it. It doesn't curve piracy in any regard. Has it slowed down P2P? Not that i've noticed. All it does is be a huge pain the butt.
- cyrix, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13I'll get dugg down to hell for this...
The reason they keep trying is they have a vested interest in people NOT pirating their material. They have a legitimate reason for doing this, to help secure more money and ensure the company's survival. Would you keep changing your combination to your security system if you owned a house and had invaluable pieces of history/art/etc... in it even though it kept getting broke into? I bet you would. There really is no difference here.
I'm not condemning piracy....because I do it myself, but to insinuate they have no reason or they're idiots for doing what they do is just retarded to be blunt. - mancat, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13"Why do they even bother?"
Because hardware manufacturers and media providers want DRM. Microsoft wants their OS to support the hardware and media. That's why.
I don't like DRM any more than the next person, but that was a dumb question. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12How about getting songs in exchange for listening to an advertisement.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10The problem of piracy is a manufactured problem.
The solution is a universal payment system, whereby anyone who deliberately comes into possession of intellectual property of any kind is able to make a payment to the appropriate entity without disclosing the source of the acquisition.
By requiring an additional 1 cent tax remission along with the payment, evading the tax can be used as the legal premise for intervention by any country in the world.
We can repeal the insane web of laws trying to control all kinds of piracy. - Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9DRM only makes life difficult for the consumer who plays by the rules (i.e. pays for their music). People who openly pirate music, for profit or for fun, generally don't have any problems working around DRM, otherwise the pirates woulda given it up a long time ago.
- latova, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Just because other companies do it, doesn't excuse microsoft from abusing their monopoly to push the agenda of the music and movie industry.
- cquinnd, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12Because not bothering doesn't solve the problem either.
What should be asked, is if there is a better approach to the issue of piracy than the methods currently used. - gossipninja, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6hell yeah its broken WOOHOO
- Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I have to disagree with saying music is the "product" of the company. The music company invests in musicians and bands to create music that can be sold. It's the musicians that ultimately get screwed out of their earnings.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Another solution would be to allow anyone to sell music tracks or give them away for free as a loss leader.
Candidates for such services would be marketing companies, polling companies, on-line retailers of other products, Government agencies to draw attention to important notices, in short, anyone trying to draw traffic to their websites.
Fill out a survey get a song coupon for itunes. - Wootery, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Have you forgotten that DRM has shown to be completely ineffective in reducing piracy?
- green67, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4NO WAY!!!!....I haven't got my copy yet!!!....my wife is gonna ***** a brick!!.....I'm speechless....what a minute....I thought this was about MS DRM getting hacked?
- sirmasterboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5.edu e-mail + Ruckus + FairUse4WM = unlimited free music for my iPod
- Wootery, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Microsoft's job is to make money. If that means chosing the media companies over the consumer, they will happily do so.
- Wasyu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Yes DRM only serves to encourage piracy esp when in someways the pirated version is better because it has no HDCP or rootkits etc.
- reed311, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7Hey, you should start a business and give your product away for free. Let me know when you do, so I can get some free stuff.
- bunzinator, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Wrong. The job of Microsoft, Apple, Linus et. al., and the makers of ANY operating system for that matter, is to provide an interface to the hardware of my computer so that I can run software on it which allows me to do WHATEVER I CHOOSE, WITHOUT RESTRICTION.
- Wasyu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3When will they learn DRM doesn't work if anything it encourages piracy since the pirated media file is DRM free.
- reed311, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5They bother because the average Joe doesn't know how to circumvent it. While this doesn't stop piracy for those determined, it does stop the average user from casually copying files, etc.
- fortinbras, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2lol, I too thought hardly anybody knew to do that. Looks like the good ol' days are back!!!!
- Osjpr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The amount of resources spent on shoving DRM down consumers throats is obscene
- tzonic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Wait...is Ruckus free for university students? Please reply I'm not trying to be sarcastic but seriously that would be cool.
- XxERMxX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21 guy defeating the efforts of one of the biggest corporations of all time.
That's cool..... even cooler is,
"Microsoft gave up its lawsuit against 'viodentia' early this April after the company said it had no success in tracking the user down." - tzonic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Pirates? Give up? Nevar!
- shmatt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The problem for the recording industry is that they've gotten so fat and lazy they no longer feel like doing the legwork it takes to go out and find talent, and nurture it by way of not taking advantage of them. The big labels and MTV treat musicians like a ***** pair of jeans. Still lots of good music out there, but those idiots have no idea what we like or how to market to us. Piracy is a few drops in a VERY big bucket, and if they did things right, they'd still be swimming in cash. All they need is a Britney or two to cover their bottom line. By now we should have all these cool ways to find, get, and share great music without jumping through a million hoops and paying for the priveledge every step of the way.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I agree
- avnerlevit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2yeh
- johnnycornholer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yep I'm with you guys on this one too! I'm ecstatic now.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2intitle:"Index of" (mp3|wma) Type.the.song.name.here -html -htm -cf -asp -jsp
Google is your friend - Sentin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3It just seems funny that its always Microsoft's stuff getting hacked.
- ZigVicious, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2wow, I'm not the only person who's heard of this.
- Wasyu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2DRM doesn't work period it just makes average joe go use P2P after he gets fedup the music he purchased doesn't play on his media player or worse every fair play song bought doesn't work in vista.
The people who support DRM live in a fantasy world and are completely disconnected from reality. - rainergamer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2all hail tzonic, knower of Apple secrets! Apple intends for its users to hack its products!
- astrotrain, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1'V' is for... viodentia
- 10001, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1replace "DRM" with "thought police". Still like your position?
- 10001, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1when only the media companies are purchasing OS licenses how will they make as much money?
- cloudyprison, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1/b/ ----------------------> That way
- 10001, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Is there a better approach to eliminating crime? Despite our system of justice there is still crime. Crime, like the poor, will always be with us.
Do not beleaguer the innocent. - 1of42, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1tzonic: Make fun of lots of things. Don't try to belittle what Gates is doing with his fortune. Having given it all away, it's not about popularity.
The fact of the matter is, with the money he is giving away, and the time he is putting in to ensure it is spent well, Gates is going to be the single biggest, most important individual force for positive change in the world for the next many years. He'll do more towards alleviating poverty, have more success, and be recognized for it than you, and probably the next few generations of your offspring will ever do for anything. - jedikv, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1There will always be ways to crack DRM
- owned, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2omg i had no idea anybody else was doing the same thing as me!
Most ppl have never heard of ruckus (or ctrax) - rainergamer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1On the radio, you don't download the song to your computer. Unless internet radio allows you to do that, which is something I, admittedly, haven't tried.
Advertisement -> Download song = fine by me. Better than the current methods. - digithed, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2But isn't it the pirates from whom they lose the most money and not the casual copiers? If that is the case then obviously their current strategy will never work.
- 10001, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1in your scenario who exactly is doing this allowing?
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