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- Zippo, on 11/24/2008, -4/+31For god sake, Microsoft, give Ballmer the ***** boot.
- rdrr, on 11/24/2008, -2/+18Developers! Developers! Developers! gasp... gasp... Developers! Developers! Developers!
- PaulCurrier, on 11/24/2008, -5/+21Steve B., Intel., collusion in combination, again? Do ya think? Who woulda ever even imagined? With 24 years of protection now pealed away by voters demanding change, do you think the Obama DOJ will take the chains off the doors, reopen up and dust off the abandoned desks at the Antitrust Division?
- Jambi, on 11/24/2008, -3/+16Are you implying that Apple and IBM were at some point caught messing with spec requirements for certain Apple software so as to put less of a strain on IBM to discontinue some lowerend PPC chip? Because I don't recall any such thing... mind linking to any articles/news/whatever on the subject?
- Aadain, on 11/24/2008, -3/+16More like, you can't actually shoot your gun in the game because your system just meets the minimum requirements. Aero was probably the number one customer facing feature that your average computer user would equate with Vista. Being unable to run Aero really means you can't run the real Vista, just its retarded, slower little brother. There is easily a case here against MS for deceptive advertising.
- FKnight, on 11/24/2008, -2/+13Unless every single customer is an expert on hardware, it was deceptive advertising.
End-users saw "Vista Capable" and assumed it would run the Vista they saw on all the PCs at Best Buy. They were not wrong in making this assumption -- unless you assume that all computer end-users should be video card experts.
If it didn't do what Vista was advertised as capable of doing, "Vista Capable" to an average non-computer-geek end-user is deceptive advertising. - YodaJones, on 11/24/2008, -3/+14Pick up that soap Ballmer.
- inactive, on 11/24/2008, -2/+9except it doesn't
- Balanced, on 11/24/2008, -0/+6Not at all related, really.
- jasmus, on 11/24/2008, -1/+7As far as I understand this thing, it's more about companies like HP that made large investments in chipsets that were truly "Vista Capable", then Microsoft and intel made a deal to allow the cheaper, less powerfull chipsets in. This meant HP had machines on the shelf that really were up tio spec, but other companies could now build much cheaper systems and still qualify for that same "Vista Capable" sticker. HP lost a lot of money by not having a competatively priced amchine available.
- chanop, on 11/24/2008, -3/+9Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers,
- xtmno3, on 11/24/2008, -1/+7FTA: "Ballmer will be able to choose the time and location of the deposition."
See you in Antarctica. - oderdigg, on 11/24/2008, -1/+7But it does run Vista, just not Vista + Aero.
I agree with the lawsuit. When you charge users for an OS and you say this Laptop can run Vista and you forget to mention that it can 'barely' run Vista, that's a problem. To add insult to injury, only Intel systems got this sticker and similar AMD systems did not.
If only M$ would give XP/Vista away like open-source OS's. OSX & Linux would be very worried and they would have reason to be. - Jambi, on 11/24/2008, -1/+6Maybe so, but I expect about as much out of any such investigations as we got out of the ones during the Clinton years; absolutely nothing. A slap on the wrist at best, then business as usual.
- MarkusX, on 11/24/2008, -0/+5So, if a car dealership told you that a car, that you are interested in, is a cool and shiny looking racing edition and that it has a maximun speed of 140 mph. So naturally you would assume that this car goes fast.
At home you find out, that the car does go 140 mph, but with its 75 HP it takes like 2 minutes to get there.
Would you still say that the salesman didn't rip you off?
Many computers wrongfully labled as being "Vista Capable", are indeed "able" to run Vista and even Aero, but the performance is slowed down so much, that it's inefficient to work with it. The point of having a computer, though, is to simplify your life - ok, I don't argue on that now - and get stuff done faster - not slower. - frankenfag, on 11/24/2008, -1/+5Dance Monkey Boy.
- MarkusX, on 11/24/2008, -1/+5Either I didn't get it, or you didn't get it.
Ballmer will "dish out more dirt" with his answers to some tough questions, which might bring up some dirt, that we don't know the extent of, yet.
The subpoena is not the dirt. His knowledge/answers will be.
...and yes it is sensational, because usually a guy in Ballmer's position wouldn't be asked these questions, instead they would fire some mid-level manager and the issue is called resolved. But that's not the case her. Hopefully they'll make Ballmer pay for it. - FearFactory, on 11/24/2008, -1/+5Sounds like he's going to dish out some more sweat and love for his company.
- tech10171968, on 11/24/2008, -0/+4Seconded. Ballmer is the worst thing that could have ever happened to Microsoft. Bill Gates was not nearly as annoying, and at least he knew something about technology.
- Knowltey, on 11/24/2008, -0/+4In the year 3008
- tech10171968, on 11/24/2008, -0/+4Exactly. And HP execs were mad as hell about the whole thing, if I read this article correctly: http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/business/2008/ ...
- MarkusX, on 11/24/2008, -3/+7It's about time that somebody significant is answering some questions.Usually it's always your little medium level manager, who gets fired after the issue - issue resolved. Ballmer is likely to know about it, but he's not just gonna go.
There gotta be some hard punishment for that sort of back door deals and preferred treatments.
If Ballmer gets it, there will be a precedence case for future cases and hopefully companies will more likely refrain from committing such fraudulent deals. - smotpoker, on 11/24/2008, -1/+5Is that a joke?
http://venturebeat.com/2008/09/05/xbox-360-defects ...
MS doesn't care about it's customers' who pay them less than a few thousand per year (ie non-businesses). That is why you all keep getting screwed so royally. The saddest part is you keep letting them do it no matter what options are presented to you just because everyone else seems to be doing the same. - 4321234, on 11/24/2008, -1/+4You buy a computer with a "Vista capable" sticker. Then when Vista is released you pay for the upgrade. You find out Vista runs like a cripple. You really don't see any problem there?
- illDecree, on 11/24/2008, -5/+8this makes me grin from ear to ear
- mithrasinvictus, on 11/24/2008, -0/+3More like putting an engine that is advertised as capable of 200 mph into a car so heavy it will actually only do 50.
- PleaseJustDie, on 11/24/2008, -0/+3Not everyone wants to deal with Linux every day.
Some people don't like having to go to winehq and follow some complex instructions to get a game "playable to the end sometimes"
Some people don't want to have to recompile a kernel to add a module that so they could have support for something that isn't enabled by a default install.
Some people just want their wireless card to work, no matter what brand it is.
Vista is not a bad operating system. It had its bumps at the beginning with poor support from hardware manufacturers, especially with drivers, and some other issues that were fixed with SP1. But now, its a pretty solid OS, I run it on my gaming machine and it does everything I expect it to do, most of all it works. In fact I've rebooted my linux server more frequently than I have my vista gaming machine.
Linux still has its uses, but it is not ready yet to replace Windows for a large majority of computer users. It has way too many issues still. - Tenoq, on 11/24/2008, -0/+2I'm sorry oderdigg, but even average Joe would agree that a PC taking 10 minutes to boot to a usable state when NEW is not 'running Vista'. Those 915G-based systems with 512MB of RAM are not Vista Capable at all. It comes down to expectations - and people expect a brand-new computer to work, and work quickly. :p
- Waterrat, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2 I as well.
I so hope this does not go well for Microsoft. - BillDoE, on 11/24/2008, -3/+5I wouldn't call getting a subpoena "Dishing out dirt". I would call it sensationalization of a perfectly newsworthy article.
- snotrokit, on 11/24/2008, -2/+4For Microsoft to move forward, Ballmer needs to hit the door. And stay gone. No consulting, no nothing. Ballmer is part of a management style that does nothing but bring ill will to Microsoft. Recently, we have seen Microsoft move towards the middle. They have embraced the realization of mixed platform environments, opened the door to open source, and stopped playing the Microsoft way is the only way mentality. The cherry on top would be Ballmers departure. He is the Dick Cheney of software.
- zoom1928, on 11/24/2008, -1/+3360? While their management was spectacular, I don't think any of the original guys are left. Some of them left when Centel was bought by Sprint and renamed Sprint Cellular Company before it was named 360. After the Alltel buy-out ten years ago a few of the original 360 guys left but most left during the horrible Verizon purchase this year. I don't understand why you think 360's experience with running a top-notch software-driven service company would help them with shrink-wrap software. They had some great software, but none of it was for end users.
- Balanced, on 11/24/2008, -0/+2My guess is the poster means the XBox 360 team, not the company '360.'
(There was a company named 360?) - Knowltey, on 11/24/2008, -1/+3Yeah if that was the case everyone should sue Crysis
- UselessTrivia, on 11/24/2008, -0/+2Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE - Aadain, on 11/24/2008, -0/+2@JasonCox And yet, that's one of the BIG bullet points for them to sell Vista. Better security is another. That's about it. So by disabling a huge feature of Vista, you effectively have XP some better security. That's hardly what I would call a new OS.
- Knowltey, on 11/24/2008, -0/+2I always turn of the Prettu UIs anyways, they are just resource hogs. But regardless I don't want a system that I HAVE TO do this to, just so it'll work.
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2then ask for your money back
- Georgy, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2is it really that big a deal? So it said it was vista capable when it could run only vista basic, sounds vista compatible to me, it isn't exactly lying...and not worth such a huge fuss...
- chesscat, on 11/24/2008, -1/+3I hope there's a good supply of bananas in the court room for 'monkey boy' Ballmer.
- Waterrat, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2 Well,I agree with everything you said and wonder why you are being Dugg down..I disagree on the god part,since there is none.
- Tenoq, on 11/24/2008, -1/+3I highly doubt it. Like any US politician, his funding is contingent on him NOT investigating his corporate sponsors.
- natenovs, on 11/24/2008, -1/+2@oderdigg - but vista basic is cheaper than the versions that run aero. i remember the marketing, and it was pretty clear that vista basic was vista sans the shiny translucent stuff.
- zoom1928, on 11/24/2008, -0/+1Never heard of a team here that went by the nickname 360. It's a little bit of a dumb nickname. If you go 360 degrees around you just end-up where you start.
360 was a hugely successful cellphone provider. In 1996 where I lived they offered better coverage than AT&T and Verizon do even today. Much of the reason for their being better than their competition was their internal software. - PleaseJustDie, on 11/25/2008, -0/+1Except that many games are only made because of how easy Direct X is. If all game developers were only able to make games in OpenGL you'd see many fewer games on the market. Not to mention that DirectX outperforms OpenGL since the governing body over OpenGL is slow as ***** in standardizing and bringing the system up to speed.
Linux is a great operating system, I use it every day, but it is not even close to ready as a mainstream solution to completely replace windows. Maybe in the next 10 years it can become that, but it is not there yet. - Waterrat, on 11/25/2008, -0/+1 This is true. They know better than to bite the hand that feeds them.
- blossom321, on 11/25/2008, -0/+1Really nice
- inactive, on 11/24/2008, -2/+3Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers
- tech10171968, on 11/24/2008, -1/+2Let's not be too hasty in judging Windows 7 just yet. I'm not sure if it's in even beta stage yet so I'm taking a wait-and-see approach. I'm not willing to thrash Microsoft over W7 until they actually give me a valid reason to do so, so let's give them a chance to set things right. Who knows - maybe they'll get it right this time.
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