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- int10h, on 06/21/2008, -6/+39"I haven't seen speed out of Google really. I mean, come on. They have one product. It's been the same for five years."
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Ballmer is a nutcase. - inkswamp, on 06/21/2008, -1/+18No speed, huh?
Mr. Ballmer, the reason you think Google is behind you in the race is because they've lapped you several times and are coming around to doing it again. - latova, on 06/20/2008, -1/+1888 PAGE VIEWS PER HOURRRRRR
- h4mx0r, on 06/21/2008, -0/+10Great scott! You've got the flux capacitor extension installed onto your browser!
- tschau, on 06/21/2008, -2/+12I use google search and gmail every day, and google maps very very close to that. Counts for something
- inkswamp, on 06/21/2008, -3/+12> "We have to be in the ad business, and we've got to have
> a good chunk," Ballmer said.
He really has to go. Microsoft has software products that have languished in the last half-decade because of that attitude right there. Microsoft has wanted to be everything but a software company and the public's lukewarm reception to Vista shows it. They really need to get back to what they're good at instead of chasing these mirages on the horizon. - infiniphunk, on 06/21/2008, -1/+9I was going to crack some joke about chair-throwing, but this video is Ballmer's finest moment:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc - erhanaltay, on 06/21/2008, -8/+16The irrational Microsoft hate on sites like Digg, Slashdot, etc is really starting to bug me. Fact is Microsoft has always created easy to use and well functioning products. That's why they are successful. I wish Microsoft success in all their endeavors. Better products by Microsoft can only make our lives better, it can't harm us.
Also, Microsoft's boat is doing just fine. Its not barely afloat as you seem to suggest. - cambob76, on 06/21/2008, -1/+8Let's say a 'friend' of mine does some work for Microsoft. My 'friend' is totally shocked at what a gong show MS is from top to bottom. It's still alive because it's so large but it's rotting from the inside and will become much less relevant. It happens to all empires. :D
- Absalon, on 06/21/2008, -1/+8I was expecting a Delorian with Microsoft Sync.
- cl0n3x, on 06/21/2008, -1/+8This may be random, but here's what motivates Ballmer, "***** Eric Schmidt is a ***** pussy. I'm going to ***** bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to ***** kill Google," he then resumed trying to persuade Mark Lucovsky to stay at Microsoft.
- HappyScrappy, on 06/21/2008, -0/+6MS hasn't fired Ballmer yet?
- Kamujin, on 06/21/2008, -1/+6OK, lets consider your historical alternatives.
1) Apple. The homegrown Apple tech died a horrible death with OS 9. OS 9 lacked basic features like a preemptive multi-tasking kernel. I think the "masses" got this one right. OS X is a FreeBSD fork that is much better then anything Apple ever built itself, but was not available until post 2000.
2) Linux / Unix. Good choices for the computer savy, In the 1980's and 1990's, they were pretty unaccessible to the "masses".
Microsoft benefits from 20+ years of inertia. This is their reward for being the first to reach the goal of having a modern, stable, reliable OS. Spare me your crayon flames about this assertion, because its true whether you like it or not.
With OS X and Linux being as strong as they are today, I expect Microsoft will continue to lose market share, but I don't see it happening overnight. It will be a gradual process. - inactive, on 06/21/2008, -2/+7steve balmer is a pimp
- mvent2, on 06/21/2008, -1/+6I've used Live Search once recently. Didn't find even remotely what I wanted, unlike Google. When you have to pay people to use your product, and that _still_ doesn't make it popular despite lack of vendor lock-in, you know your product sucks.
- ChadN, on 06/21/2008, -0/+5At 0:21 he steps on his own *****' foot... jeezus.
- billyfalconer, on 06/21/2008, -0/+4The only reason MS got to their position is because they were there early and they were more ruthless and dishonest than anyone else. They've never created a significant product, and have done tremendous damage to the software industry through their monopoly. Now that their incompetence has caused their grip to loosen, innovation will be more free to develop in the industry.
- GauchoCoder, on 06/21/2008, -0/+4Haha, that is hilarious! The dude is out of breath after running around on stage for 30 seconds!!
- KevinJim, on 06/21/2008, -0/+4FTA:"Ballmer argues that the failed Yahoo buyout was not an attempt to do something radical in order to shake that perception, but instead represented a way to accelerate Redmond's move into search, a position that seems reasonable in light of Microsoft's later offer to simply purchase Yahoo's search division. ". Accelerate ? I haven't even started yet... ***** ! Ballmer is an idiot. Even if I disagree with many of Gates opinions and actions, I will admit that he is clever. Ballmer on the other hand had his brain amputated and replaced with I don't know... something physicists could research for the theory of "emptiness".
- Stonekeeper, on 06/21/2008, -1/+5It's not persistence, it's desperation.
- winmywii, on 06/21/2008, -0/+4I think you missed a couple.
- insomniac8400, on 06/21/2008, -1/+4Why does Microsoft keep failing? People don't give two ***** about cash back gimmicks. They want time saved, ease of use, and many innovative services. Microsoft is a rich company, why aren't they offering things for free like Google. Google is innovating, while Microsoft isn't even willing to copy Google's ideas. Grandcentral is a perfect example of a service Microsoft could offer for free that they don't offer. While Google with only ad revenue has no problem offering for free. Microsoft offering commercial services for free is the easiest way to gain market share, yet they don't do it. Instead they pander to commercial entities and shoot themselves into the foot by selling drm laden music that requires an active server forever to retain customer service. Fortunately, Microsoft could fix there problems very easily. But sadly, it most likely requires getting rid of the dinosaurs that don't get it anymore.
- MtheoryX, on 06/21/2008, -0/+3"Gmail,Picaso and the rest of Google's craaps sucks ass."
You're just as much of a lunatic as Ballmer. - KaivenTor, on 06/21/2008, -1/+4And yet, Live.com is still fragmented looking, can be a pain to use sometimes, and has a lot of stuff getting staffed by very few people. Microsoft will have to start listening to it's users again before it can even think of taking the torch back. The company's arrogance is what got them to this point. Sure Vista still kinda sucks, but Windows is still a dominant OS and the XBox is doing okay, but their online stuff needs to be better integrated, more useful, and ultimately, easier to use. If they can do that, they might start getting users back.
- ATLien74, on 06/21/2008, -0/+3Ballmer seems to think Google is no different, saying, "I haven't seen speed out of Google really. I mean, come on. They have one product. It's been the same for five years."
Huh? So does anybody need any further confirmation that Ballmer is completely mentally disfunctional? - hollyminkowski, on 06/21/2008, -1/+4Google could cause real problems for MS if they released their own flavor of Linux.
GoogleOS :-)
They would have the money to fight the patent war that would quickly ensue as MS tried to kill Linux by claiming software patents over many pieces of code in the Linux kernel. Google would need to enlist IBM and it's huge software patent holdings to force MS to back down.
Google has such good name recognition that people would buy computers pre-loaded with a Google OS and open-source replacements for Office and Word.
BTW...that Ballmer guy is sorta creepy. - inactive, on 06/21/2008, -0/+3640K of memory should be enough
- Twinnie, on 06/21/2008, -0/+3We always hear all these woeful stories about Microsoft these days and I always think of Bill Gates and I want them to pick up again. Then something from Ballmer surfaces and I just want them, their incompetence, and Ballmer's hyper-inflated ego to sink into bankruptcy.
- Atomic1fire, on 06/21/2008, -0/+2they need to take an approach similar to meebo (the Web Instant messenger)
make good features, Create a community and listen to it and then monetize it later when it works - turbodiesel, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2"We don't have to dominate, but we'd better have a darn good chunk of the search market over time, and we're working away at it."
This is the key to Microsoft. GE made billions by diversifying, and being no worse than 3rd in any market they compete in. MS doesn't have to lead in music players, game consoles, search ad sales, just make money from them.
Laugh all you want at ballmer, but he's putting MS on a track to be profitable for many years. - billyfalconer, on 06/21/2008, -0/+2He doesn't have that much class.
- inactive, on 06/21/2008, -0/+2How can someone go back to the future ? I guess we dont have time machines yet.
- cheerybounce, on 06/21/2008, -1/+3Hm.. Does it look like google has more list entries in it's products than microsoft has?
- stockjones, on 06/21/2008, -2/+4Microsoft let me tell you a little secret. You cannot dominate everything. Search is one area you will not have any chance of controlling. So yes move on.
- 7952, on 06/21/2008, -1/+3The constant comparison between MS and Google is just stupid. The two companies have completely different core businesses that are only linked by coincidence of being software. MS seem to think that they should dominate everything connected to software. But in reality software is becoming an integral part of many, many businesses. Are they going to try and compete with every company that happens to be based on software, and makes it big? Because that list could get very long, very quickly. There are so many undeveloped markets in which MS research spending could have a huge impact. Search based ad serving is not one of them.
- Kwipper, on 06/21/2008, -1/+3Steve Ballmer. Just shut the hell up. Please. You do more damage to your own company than good, by opening your mouth.
- ZGambit, on 06/21/2008, -0/+2Yes that would cause change Google OS would definately be a change which would effect Microsoft's Budget line
- KevinJim, on 06/21/2008, -0/+2*It haven't even started yet
- inactive, on 06/21/2008, -5/+7Any yet, for all their developments, they have only been able to monetize one...
- karolisonline, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2maybe microsoft is not leading in internet search, but look, they are biggest software developer, they are developing a lot of different software and big part of it is for enterprise not home user. that is why many people think google and apple is everything and microsoft is nothing. they also have science centers. i had ability to work in european microsoft innovation center, they develop things like ambient intelligence system, mobile network technologies, bank and government data security systems. when you hear that google or some one else want to collect all medical or social information with some open standard, microsoft is making large-scale systems for european countries and those systems already manages all medical and social data... pretty insane.
the only problem is that microsoft don't cooperate with some guys.. us government.. china.. etc.. so they don't have many friends out there and that is why they want to get bigger part of home-users market - geniusNOTatWORK, on 06/21/2008, -0/+1Ballmer is going to try and take the Technology Almanac back from Google
- ilgaz, on 06/24/2008, -0/+1Ad is everywhere on general/average people's web browsers. Believe or not, you are a tiny minority in advertisers (and companies) eyes.
Web advertising carries bulk mailing rules. If 1 out of 100.000 clicks and buys the product/service, it is a success for them.
In fact, as a highly technical user who won't click on an ad to select a service, by disabling ads, you save bandwidth for them. They are interested in people who will potentially click the ad and buy it anyway. - xendo, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1...and pimps don't commit suicide.
- cheerybounce, on 06/21/2008, -1/+2Yep, they are too simple company to be anything more than one.
- esc27, on 06/23/2008, -0/+1Maybe not the ipod, but they did go from no-one to #2 in the mp3 player market.
- Nephersir7, on 06/21/2008, -1/+2"I haven't seen speed out of Google really. I mean, come on. They have one product. It's been the same for five years." but at least, it works great! We can not say the same thing about Vista... or just Windows in general which will probably remain unchanged and deficient for five years...
- ilgaz, on 06/24/2008, -0/+1Times has changed, it is now "3.2 GB of RAM should be enough" (try installing 4GB to 32bit Vista)
- billyfalconer, on 06/21/2008, -0/+1MS isn't going to try and sue over alleged Linux copyright violations, because there aren't any. If there were, MS would've openly sued long ago. They used SCO as a proxy and that didn't work. There's no there there.
- cheerybounce, on 06/21/2008, -0/+1I guess it's oxymoron, backwards to the future, do they end up to Middle ages?
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