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- DeathRay2K, on 11/30/2008, -0/+34I for one would rather trust Microsoft than some random 3rd party to know what updates Windows needs installed...
- inactive, on 11/29/2008, -0/+23And it won't be updated either.
http://windizupdate.com/
There's a message where the forums used to be, which reads, in part,
"But we've been short-staffed for the last 6 months, and the workload has finally taken its toll.
It's not "Good Bye" - we haven't been shut down by MS; and we have no plans to sell the domain name, or turn it into one of those cybersquatter search pages.
But we have to move on. The site will still be operational, but no new updates will be added. We will still answer email." - DarkShroud, on 11/30/2008, -4/+25Buried as inaccurate.
- cquinnd, on 11/30/2008, -0/+18The article missed mentioning that you can better control Windows updates for a DIY approach simply by changing the settings for automatic downloads to give the user more control over what updates get downloaded and when they are installed.
For setups in corporate or large scale environment, there is also the option of setting up a WSUS (Windows Server Update Services) server to perform patch management. - Chalks777, on 11/29/2008, -4/+22Dugg for the FF extension. I reinstall windows once or twice a year, and their updater program sucks eggs.
btw, here's the direct link to the extension:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/269 ...
Edit: Apparently it hasn't been updated in over a year. So... don't rely on it to get all your updates. :( - hitkaiser, on 11/30/2008, -0/+14http://windizupdate.com/ died a long time ago, they don't update their site with windows updates anymore.
- ragingflamerboy, on 11/30/2008, -2/+13Your logic is full of fail.
- redxii, on 11/30/2008, -0/+8Some people are paranoid about Microsoft scanning their system... IT HAS TO. Windows Update is not a one-size-fits-all displaying all updates and hope one fits, it has to check file versions or in some cases (like ActiveX killbits or MSRT) checks the registry to determine what updates are needed.
- colonelxc, on 11/30/2008, -1/+8IE is no longer tied so deeply into windows (thank the antitrust suits), so you can actually uninstall it.
- ragingflamerboy, on 11/30/2008, -3/+9
to what? a machine that won't play awesome new games?
or to something to feed into a superiority complex?
or to something with a lil' piece of the market?
I can see why it bothers you guys so much though. I mean, all this windows bitching and yet you get a mac and install vista on it. lol
wierdos. - Seaton, on 11/30/2008, -3/+9Buried as inaccurate.
Windizupdate has not been updated for over a year.
The Windows Update Downloader requires .NET Framework. I am not about to install that bloatware on my computer.
The third option...burns your updates to a CD first?!? WTF?!? If it made me a slipstream install disk, then I might be intrigued. But why the hell would I want to look for a CD every time a patch is released.
To answer the question of why you would need options:
Sometimes Windows/Microsoft Update just doesn't work. Getting it to work again usually involves a low-level format and reinstall of Windows. - arcooke, on 11/30/2008, -2/+8That's not an upgrade, that's an overpriced downgrade.
- se7envii, on 11/30/2008, -1/+7Wait didn't lifehacker just put up an article about this? Who copied whom?
- Alphax45, on 11/30/2008, -3/+8The write up for the first tool makes no sense: "IE doesn't even need to be installed on your system to use it." How the hell can you TRULY remove IE and still having a working Windows install? Also won't the updates just install IE anyways?
I'm being serious here.
K - FelixDeluxe, on 11/30/2008, -2/+7I'd just like to be able to turn off the nagging when windows updates.
"Want to reboot now? No? How about now? Are you in the middle of something? Finished yet? What about now?"
I'll reboot when I'm ***** ready you *****. - NicoNicoNico, on 11/30/2008, -2/+7I'm a recent Mac switcher, but I still don't like these types of articles. It acts as though MS is evil incarnate, and that one must go through extreme measures to install anything of value. It is absolutely silly and pointless. Bury.
I bet I'll get buried myself. Ha. - colonelxc, on 11/30/2008, -2/+7Microsoft's windows update is actually pretty good, and secure. It also lets you select what you want or don't want to install. Having competition is a good thing, though for most purposes, I think windows update has these alternatives beat.
- Notluf, on 12/01/2008, -0/+4start -> run -> net stop "automatic updates"
Turns off Automatic Updates for 24 hours on most XP/2003/Vista/2008 systems, sometimes shorter. Stops the annoying "do you want to restart now?" BS.
Edit: Added Vista/2008, works on them too. - Tichondrius74, on 11/30/2008, -1/+4Great minds think alike?
- redxii, on 11/30/2008, -0/+3I make a security update pack for XP SP3 for use w/ RyanVM's integrator. It is nice to make your CD up-to-date when you need to reinstall Windows, but I think some people use it to reinstall Windows with every new update pack release in order to get updates installed; installing hotfixes accomplishes the exact same thing without having to redo your system every month or new update pack version.
- Kylde, on 11/30/2008, -0/+3ryanVM? autopatcher?
- JakeyG14, on 11/30/2008, -0/+3Reading your previous posts, I HAVE to assume you're a troll who's not being serious.
- paidhima, on 11/30/2008, -0/+3You do not need to burn it to a CD first. CT Update places all the updates in product/language specific folders from which you can just run them. Creating an image is secondary, but also useful. As for why you would want this, it's incredibly useful when deploying new machines (without having to constantly update sysprep'd builds) or reformatting and doing completely unattended updates without having to tie up your internet connection.
It's also great for fully updating a machine that's been lax in its updates, without needing to download them. - DimensionalPunk, on 12/01/2008, -1/+3I like Autopatcher, it works great for me.
- FKnight, on 12/01/2008, -0/+2After you guys get all your operating system updates from sites that can't even keep themselves up because it's too much work, or might drop some malware accidentally into their update streams, don't forget to bitch that it's Microsoft's fault that your machine got *****.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+2I'm not 100% sure on the legality of it, but downloading the latest monthly releases of Windows that some scene groups release is an option. For example before I reinstall I might grab the November edition with the latest hotfix/rollouts installed for me. I just use my own legiitimate CD key and it will install and activate fine.
I think it's a bit of a grey area, but if Microsoft provide you with tools and instructions on how to slipstream your own releases, I can't see why distributing them to others could be considered bad. I also do the same with Office 2003/2007 and it definitely cuts down on the post-install updates. - HigherLogic, on 11/30/2008, -0/+2Haha, I hate that in Vista. The options are like 10 minutes up to 4 hours, and if you're not around when that 4 hours runs out, it restarts your computer anyways.
- centran, on 12/01/2008, -0/+2Yep.
http://windizupdate.com/forum/
"But we've been short-staffed for the last 6 months, and the workload has finally taken its toll.
It's not "Good Bye" - we haven't been shut down by MS; and we have no plans to sell the domain name, or turn it into one of those cybersquatter search pages.
But we have to move on. The site will still be operational, but no new updates will be added. We will still answer email."
If they get help or their workload comes to a point where they can maintain it then it will come back but.. come on! We are all living our lives here; when does ones workload every come down? - roebeet, on 12/01/2008, -0/+2How about getting your head out of Steve Job's ass?
- 80hd, on 11/30/2008, -2/+4This is good to know for doing new builds.
I hate waiting for downloads and mos def don't do enough building for it to be worth my time to setup a wsus machine. - diggduggjoe, on 12/01/2008, -0/+2Even, if this worked, it adds another of trust needed in the process. Could MS be hacked? Possibly.
Could these smaller groups be hacked and fool your system to install malware? I believe that is possible.
I have hated needing to update so much after a fresh install. However, I feel that getting the updates directly from MS without a 3rd party involved makes the most sense. I would love to see a smaller footprint WSUS server system that can be done even for HOME/SOHO users to use in their environments. I do not see too many single PC installs anymore. LANs are everywhere and we could save a large chunk of bandwidth with such a system. - badogg, on 12/01/2008, -1/+3Found this with minimal time searching with google: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/preve ...
If you would have spent the time to search for it rather than spending the time here to bitch about it you would have found this a long time ago. - inactive, on 12/01/2008, -1/+2why would you continue to use a computer where it was necessary to reinstall the whole OS 'twice a year'.
Why do you put up with this *****? - Seaton, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1You have a point there. I can't see burning updates to a disk for a home user. I should have been more specific.
My other problem is: I would lose the CDs with the updates and just download them anyway. - paidhima, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1What I do is have the whole thing sitting on my home file server. Once every few months I run the app to get new updates and create a new image. It's outstanding for what it does, but it's certainly not necessary for everyone.
It's also great for picking out just one update you might need, rather than going online to track it down. - Chalks777, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1it's only necessary because I pretty much rebuild the machine twice a year. Because I think it's fun to do. Also, It makes me happy to have a completely clean install every now and then... it's like picking a scab. It hurts, but man it's nice to have the crap off there.
- paidhima, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1I use CT Update very often in a corporate IT environment. It's really quite good at what it does.
- prashant90, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.............................why we need external software, when windows can do all of it by itself.. As is Vista is slow.. why put more load on it. :(
- badogg, on 12/01/2008, -1/+2There is this too that might be better:
http://softwarex-nz.blogspot.com/2008/01/stop-vist ... - v4vishal, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1Windiz Update:
IE doesn't even need to be installed on your system to use it.
Huh? IE not installed on a Windows machine?? - badogg, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1Sure thing, I'll tell your mom next time I see her
- Spyder2k, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1http://www.autopatcher.com/
- isaiasv, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1for anyone who uses windows in spanish, we can use this:
http://www.winup.es/ and alternative for
http://www.autopatcher.com/ - MariosMustache, on 12/01/2008, -1/+2Updated title: "How to patch that pirated copy of SP2 that keeps failing WGA because you're too cheap to buy a copy and feel entitled to it"
- ikarosu, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1I use the Secunia Online Software Inspector (OSI)...it actually lists the missing updates, which I then search in Microsoft Download Center.
http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/ - Chalks777, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1eh, you're right. I can do almost everything I NEED to do (surf digg and play flash games) through firefox though. If I could update windows too... well that would just be the bee's knees.
- p3ngwin, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1when you start out in the world you have no friends & you learn to make friendships with trust from experience.
so, when did you decide to stop trusting and making new friends? - ethana2, on 11/30/2008, -1/+1I'm not seeing anything to rival apt-p2p in that list. Is it safe to assume you guys don't have it?
- arcooke, on 11/30/2008, -1/+1Has anyone had any experience with CT Update? Any good?
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