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- specialK16, on 11/29/2008, -0/+80Digging this up just to let everybody know that you don't need CrossOver to use Windows Apps. It might help a bit, but I think it is already easy enough to double click a .exe and use Wine. No need to pay $30 for this.
If it still doesn't work in Wine, it won't work using CrossOver either. - saejinn, on 11/29/2008, -5/+44All that just to install IE?
- svivian, on 11/29/2008, -2/+40Um... you can just run the installer .exe in Ubuntu and it will use WINE to install the app.
- ispeakasian, on 11/29/2008, -1/+33I like your thinking.
- inactive, on 11/29/2008, -2/+27OMG NO WAY!!!!! YOU HAD TO CLICK THE "NEXT" BUTTON?
***** INCONCEIVABLE! - brad016, on 11/29/2008, -15/+36vagina
- inactive, on 11/29/2008, -10/+30What's the "superior Linux equivalent" of Photoshop? (and if you say GIMP, I'll come to your house and personally rape your wife and your dog)
- atruevoice, on 11/29/2008, -7/+25Buried for not being free.
- ry4nsm1th, on 11/29/2008, -6/+23***** THING SUCKS.
- drplump, on 11/29/2008, -2/+17EXPLORE THE INTERNET!!!1!11!!!!
- Kingoftherings, on 11/29/2008, -1/+14Right Click -> Open with Wine.
- Dylson, on 11/29/2008, -1/+13I'll stick with wine.
- midtown, on 11/29/2008, -0/+12Part of the problem of switching OSes is being attached to your old applications even when perfectly fine equivalents exist. Why not use Pidgin which is included in many Linux distros, which is an ad-free replacement for Aim and Yahoo. I used it in Windows before I used Linux, and it provides a much better experience IMO.
- beerwench, on 11/29/2008, -3/+14shouldve titled this "the complete idiots guide to installing a debian package"... ~30 pictures to show ubuntu users how to install a $30 piece of ***** application that's useless... awesome!
- Rememberthe0511, on 11/29/2008, -0/+11Yeah. I did that dual boot thing. You know what happened? I... never boot into windows. Linux is just to freeing. And i'm not a hard core gamer so there is pretty much no loss whatsoever.
- themusicalduck, on 11/29/2008, -1/+12wine /path/to/file.exe
- TechnoRabbit, on 11/29/2008, -0/+10This is why a lot of women on the internet choose gender-neutral names and let people assume they are male.
- Dylson, on 11/29/2008, -1/+11***** IT!
- KloroFormd, on 11/29/2008, -0/+9I dual boot my system. Windows for games, Linux for everything important.
- deathfix, on 11/29/2008, -1/+10Yeah, is a tutorial really necessary for CrossOver Linux?
- midtown, on 11/29/2008, -0/+9Yeah, I actually had an experience recently (with Rosetta Stone v3) where an application didn't install at all in CrossOver, but worked perfectly with just Wine itself.
- tomz17, on 11/29/2008, -0/+8Agree with midtown. Pidgin is WAY better than the AIM client, and there is a native version of skype for linux that works very well!
- punx45, on 11/29/2008, -1/+9they do.
http://www.cygwin.com/ - inactive, on 11/29/2008, -2/+10Because calculator comes with Windows.
- inactive, on 11/29/2008, -1/+9great now I can install BonziBuddy!
- DrLeePhD, on 11/29/2008, -2/+10how do I run linux apps under windows?
- bipolarruledout, on 11/29/2008, -1/+8I have to say... I don't really use Linux but I have been very impressed with the amount of effort being put into WINE.
- codyjoe, on 11/29/2008, -3/+10well if xp is kicking ubuntu's ass why do u need w7?
- srg13, on 11/29/2008, -1/+8Wine does far better than you give it credit for.. Being able to run Steam games and Photoshop CS2 pretty much flawlessly for instance...
- timpalpant, on 11/29/2008, -0/+7Internet Explorer will not work in Wine by double-clicking the executable; you either need to get the IE4Linux script or use Crossover. Either way, it should be installed in a separate wineroot...
And the main advantage of Crossover is support. I admit, I will use the free one and manage on my own, but for someone switching from windows, $30 and help is probably worth it. - trollick, on 11/29/2008, -3/+10I heard there was an OS one can use to run all these Windows programs natively without using any tricks.
- DJPandemonium, on 11/29/2008, -0/+6I spent three hours last week trying to get Office 2007 to be fully functional in Wine before I finally gave up.
Then I tried the copy of Crossover that I got when they were giving it away awhile back. A few mouse clicks and 15 minutes later and it was not only completely functional, but seamlessly integrated into my desktop, and running just like it was a native app.
So, while your comment is probably technically true, the reality is that just because it can run in Wine doesn't mean that it's always feasible or easy.
I'm sure there is some trade off, and I've used apps that run fine in Wine but not in Crossover; however, if the app(s) you want to run are officially supported in Crossover, then the user experience and ease make Crossover the clear winner. A certain degree of that depends on what your time is worth to you. If you're fine throwing away several hours in exchange for not buying a $30 application, then go with Wine. My time is worth more than that. - jaymulder, on 11/29/2008, -5/+11You don't need 30$ for CrossOver either. If it can be bought, it can be pirated!
- Linkage155, on 11/29/2008, -4/+10Max Payne as a 'latest functionality'? -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Payne (PC Release: 2001), only 7 years off but nt.
- AnarchyIsOrder1, on 11/29/2008, -2/+8This has prompted me to read a little more about Wine. I found myself on their "Debunking Wine Myths" page:
Myth 6: "Wine will always be playing catch up to Windows and can't possibly succeed at running new applications"
The architecture of Wine makes adding new APIs (or DLLs) fairly easy. Wine developers rapidly add functions as needed, even applications requiring the latest functionality are usually reported working within a few months of release. Examples of this include Office XP and Max Payne (a DirectX 8.0 game) - both of which were fairly new as of this writing (5/2002.)
Perhaps I should circle that and write FAIL in all caps? I think the page is a little bit out of date :)
Nevertheless, I find Wine quite interesting and I'll probably have to make a project out of it one night. - paradoxum, on 11/29/2008, -1/+7"...both of which were fairly new as of this writing (5/2002.)"
Literacy ftw. - inactive, on 11/29/2008, -1/+799% of users don't need all that Photoshop provides. Besides, Photoshop is often unusable on a Windows box - it's slow and unstable.
- Slade605, on 11/29/2008, -0/+5No, but it does run uTorrent, and you can use a web browser to order netflix, and then play them with your choice of players.
- socivitus, on 11/29/2008, -2/+7When you're working with open source software, you should release your add-ons, programs, etc for free. Revenue can be made off a product without charging for it. Plus, supporting and working on open source software projects should never be about money.
- Syphon0928, on 11/29/2008, -3/+8Not all Windows programs work 100% with CrossOver (And WINE too).
- tehnoobifier, on 11/28/2008, -17/+22I have been waiting for an easier way to install windows programs for so long, now I can finally switch to Ubuntu without having to know how to use crazy linux syntax to install programs on wine...so long Microsoft!!
- striker1211, on 11/29/2008, -0/+5cygwin
- sparrowkc, on 11/29/2008, -0/+5When you have the source code to an app, you can use something like cygwin to compile it yourself.
- svivian, on 11/29/2008, -1/+6Yeah I don't have a need for a "heavy-duty" graphics app so GIMP is fine. Actually, the last time I used Photoshop the terrible interface annoyed the hell out of me. The only thing it has going for it is that it has one window, not one for each image. But all the most basic operations are a total bitch in PS.
I've actually yet to see what Photoshop can do that GIMP (or Inkscape) can't, apart from empty your bank account. - bjornski, on 11/29/2008, -0/+5I'd say "Do it live", but Live is Microsoft....
- inactive, on 11/29/2008, -0/+5@seanleeforever
1. I do admit that. In this case the Windows driver was crashing.
2. I suggest you do some more research on the number of Linux users vs Windows users.
3. Your point is valid although its pretty low blow. Many times developers of Linux programs have to backwards engineer compatibility for specific closed file formats. Similarly, Windows has such momentum that they can simply choose not to provide compatibility with other formats (i.e. .odf files), and thereby stifle the proliferation of that non-Windows format.
4. I used it for a whole year at my school and found that it ran much, much smoother and more reliably than my Windows partition. Also, a lot of the software available provided was superior in certain ways - faster, more stable, simpler. I won't deny however, that there are simply a few essential programs that are far superior than anything available on Linux. Probably the biggest issue is that there is _nothing_ to the level of sophistication provided by Microsoft OneNote for taking notes in class.
I don't drink any Linux "cool-aid". In fact, I'm writing this right now from my XP partition. I was simply responding to the initial comment and thought it necessary to provide examples. - DigitalisAkujin, on 11/29/2008, -1/+6I'm impressed by the user friendliness but I doubt it will take long for Wine to clone it and make it better. Open source is good at using established protocols, not really innovating design - but easily copies good ones.
- smotpoker, on 11/29/2008, -0/+5The purpose of OSS software is FREEDOM and in some cases quality assurance. [F]OSS philosophy doesn't relate to profiting from or charging people, only that you allow them to do what they wish on their system[s] with the software (and preferably contribute back to the movement somehow or at least learn something from it)
- Rewdog, on 11/29/2008, -1/+6he chose IE to install? Of all things? Install something useful, like office ffs.
- srg13, on 11/29/2008, -0/+4@striker1211 - that doesn't really count because Wine can run Windows binaries, but you have to recompile Linux apps from source to use them in Cygwin.
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