What is Digg?Sponsored by Gilt Man
It's a Gilt Man's world view!
giltman.com - Get gear and gadgets at up to 70% off. Shop like a guy, dress like a man. You're invited.
63 Comments
- terrorpup, on 11/12/2009, -1/+29What a great day. openSUSE 11.2 is out. Everyone need to download it and check it out. We will give *buntu a run for their money. You can't beat the hard work that has gone into this release.
- OMLX, on 11/12/2009, -2/+22OpenSUSE 11.2 the Perfect KDE Distribution:
http://linuxcrunch.com/content/opensuse-112-perfec ... - diggnidy, on 11/12/2009, -2/+19this is the best ubuntu ever!
- 4321234, on 11/12/2009, -0/+9The available versions and download methods is here;
http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version
After the first boot, the first thing I usually do is grab the multimedia codecs. http://opensuse-community.org/Multimedia - lassegs, on 11/13/2009, -1/+10If thats the only reason you switched... *facepalm*
- terrorpup, on 11/13/2009, -0/+9It not about rpm, it about the hard work that has gone in openSUSE 11.2, there a lot people comparing us to Karmic Koala, by people the trades and they stating that we can give them a run for their money. Any open source distro is a great distro. The better we work on distro and the harder *buntu crew works on theirs, the better it is for any one using Linux.
Please stop the Novell and Microsoft patents talk, that does not, I repeat does not effect openSUSE. openSUSE is a free and open source like that of Ubuntu, Mint, Slackware, and Fedora. Don't believe me, ask the openSUSE broad. I am an Ambassador for openSUSE, and I will stand by the OS. It is free and open. So this is a community works. The guys that worked on this deal a great job, it took 11 months and people all over the world.
Every are right on YaST ( Yet another Set Tool, for those that don't). And with WebYast things are going to get a lot better. The new KDE theme rocks and I loving it and Gnome. There a lot more I am not covering, so please take a look the page above you will be surprise at all the goodies we have waiting.
apt-get a great tool for those that are first learning Linux, but you need to honest check out zypper, it got the power of V8 engine, works just as easily as apt-get for any new or old to Linux.
So for those that state we aren't free, we are. We are very much open source. Again, by taking on *buntu, our work speaks loud. By the way, you haven't seen anything yet, if you haven't seen SUSE Studio, or Li-F-E . Great tools for everyone to use. And Free as in Beer, as the old saying goes.
So please forgive the passion, but I love Linux. I love open source. I love my openSUSE.
Chuck Payne
openSUSE Ambassador. - xgunterx, on 11/12/2009, -2/+10I tried to install Ubuntu 9.10 on an older pc. Ubiquity crashes everytime. I just can't install it.
I never experienced such a problem on a final OpenSUSE/SUSE/SuSE release and I'm using them since SuSE 7.0 back in 2000.
In fact, I have included the factory repo's on OpenSUSE 11.1 for a few months and receive updates for about 200-450MB weekly. I didn't experience any problems so far.
It is more polished, more functional and yet more stable than any version of Ubuntu. - cenuiij, on 11/12/2009, -0/+7#suse channel on freenode IRC network is a great place to find out more about openSUSE and/or get some help with any issue you may have.
- matthekc, on 11/12/2009, -0/+7A nod to the Suse team for their excellent work with KDE!
I might have to step over to the rpm side of the bazaar to try KDE as I've yet to see a deb distro give it such attention. - cmost, on 11/12/2009, -3/+10OpenSUSE has always given Ubuntu a run for its money but sadly, since it signed a patent covenant with Microsoft it seems to have fallen out of favor with the zealots of the open source community who look for a conspiracy at every turn. While I'm definitely no fan of Microsoft (haven't used Windows myself for seven years) I don't see the big deal. Regardless, OpenSUSE has always trumpted Ubuntu in nearly every way including its Yast system wide configuration utility, which is bar none and its fabulous default desktop themes. Congratulations OpenSUSE team! I can't wait to try out the latest release.
- D14852001neko, on 11/13/2009, -0/+6Yes... it's called "joke"
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/12/2009, -2/+7... I am hopping you just didn't put in the /s...
- ddfall, on 11/12/2009, -0/+5A great overview of all of the basics, with links to everything from download pages, release notes, change log, screen shots and a lot more - http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/openSUSE-11 ...
- FatherD, on 11/13/2009, -0/+5I recently changed from Fedora 8 to Suse 11.1, it seemed the only choice for my delayed move to KDE4, the live dvd of Fedora 12 was not confidence inspiring. Just yesterday I did the zypper CLI upgrade to 11.2. It went absolutely faultless, even with Packman, Nvidia and Factory Repositories onboard. The instructions on the Opensuse 'site were spot on. The new look is mighty fine! the new Yast looks much better .. well done the Opensuse team :)
- specialK16, on 11/12/2009, -0/+5Awesome! I started with Ubuntu and I am too used to apt now. What are the main differences between Ubuntu (or any other debian based distro) and openSUSE?
- matthekc, on 11/12/2009, -0/+4http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=a ...
It can through WINE but apparently it sucks at it. - xgunterx, on 11/12/2009, -1/+5In OpenSUSE we use yast as a graphical interface to manage packages. But on the command line we use zypper with commands which will be very familiar to you: zypper search [package], zypper install [package], zypper patch, zypper update, zypper dist-upgrade, ...
OpenSUSE (and before SUSE, SuSE) has always invested lots of effort in polished details. Now they integrated Firefox in KDE so it behaves more or less like a KDE-application.
The looks are always different and elevated to a higher level.
Whereas Ubuntu uses lots of tools scrambled together to do the admin tasks, OpenSUSE delivers YAST where you can do anything what an admin has to to with the system. They deliver also an ncurses-based version of Yast so you can use it on the command line (or via ssh) as well.
Try a Live-cd. Easy to find via their homepage. - clickwir, on 11/13/2009, -0/+4I'm putting this on a USB drive and giving it a go. Last time I tried openSUSE it was really nice. But something drew me back to Kubuntu.
It's worth a try on a test system at least. - rif42, on 11/12/2009, -0/+3How can you be up and running already? I have been downloading the DVD ISO since hours, still 2 more hours to go!
Do anybody know a trick to overclock my 28K modem? ;-) - darkchild, on 11/12/2009, -1/+4There are many similarities as well as differences. Take openSUSE for a spin and check out the differences yourself.
- terrorpup, on 11/13/2009, -0/+3To expand on what Joe stated, we have army of people that can help with any issues that you have with openSUSE 11.2 or any version of openSUSE. Check us on irc, tweet (#openSUSE), identi.ca, and we have a group page on Facebook. We are a community that works with all. So Download openSUSE 11.2, you will love it. If you run into any issue, please reach out the openSUSE community for any help you need.
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/12/2009, -1/+4I tried installing OpenSuse about a year back on my laptop, as soon as any desktop effect where activated the screen turned white and it was a hassle to fix. Ubuntu>Xubuntu>Kubuntu>Open Suse. Not a fanboy, I am running Xubuntu, XP, 7, Ubuntu on right now. Roommate is running Jolicloud and that impresses me too... Personally I think anything based on KDE is bound to be a bit slow and flak. Open Suse is nice, but it remains second best in the Linux kingdom... which is still a nice place to be mind you.
Though it does handle KDE far better then Ubuntu. - matthekc, on 11/12/2009, -0/+3http://on-disk.com/
You know when on-disk gets 11.2, well, on disk this service works fairly well. I used to use it a few years back. - yourtechstuff, on 11/12/2009, -0/+3It's really cool now..
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/12/2009, -1/+4Agreed, Kubuntu is simply a bad experiment, it could improve, but if you want Ubuntu, use Gnome. If you want a KDE environment, use Suse.
- xgunterx, on 11/12/2009, -0/+3Dependencies are taken care of for a loooooooong time.
dpkg <=> RPM
Apt <=> higher level tools like Yast, zypper, smart, ... which also takes care of the dependencies.
Yes, Debian was first with apt, but SuSE followed with Yast a little more than one year later. - fotoman, on 11/13/2009, -0/+3Been seeding the ISO's for 8+ hours already.
Haven't upgraded working systems yet, but things look good from what I've seen. First version of Suse for me was 7.1 back in 2001. - xgunterx, on 11/13/2009, -0/+3Are you using apt or are you using a lower level tool as dpkg all the time?
dpkg is as low level as RPM and dependencies are resolved on Debian-based systems with apt and on RPM-based systems with comparable higher level tools.
So AGAIN, dependencies are not an issue and that for a very long time. - westlin, on 11/12/2009, -0/+2All my stations have been updated already. Time to "have a lot of fun!"
- MethodOne, on 11/12/2009, -2/+4I find openSUSE 11.2 and Arch with KDEmod much better than Kubuntu. I will be using openSUSE instead of Arch because I want more stability and feel that the rolling release model isn't right for me anymore. 11.2 is great, but I will change the font to DejaVu Sans because the default one is ugly.
- XFi6, on 11/12/2009, -1/+3Buried already? not a surprise.
- cmost, on 11/12/2009, -0/+2No, only the uninformed conspiracy theorists who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. Everyone else knows that OpenSUSE is one of the best kept secrets in the Linux world.
- medg85, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2I'm a seasoned Ubuntu user and love GNOME, however I'm tempted to give openSUSE a try - if only to try out KDE. I've tried installing openSUSE and Fedora in VirtualBox in the past, but could never get the guest additions to install. Any tips?
- DocHoliday22, on 11/12/2009, -0/+2With OpenSuse 11.2 the Perfect KDE Distribution?
- abdhjops, on 11/13/2009, -2/+3i switched from ubuntu to opensuse. gotta love that root access
- Lucidia, on 11/22/2009, -0/+1Glad to hear that a distro-upgrade worked. I have openSuse 11.1, and would prefer just "zypper dup", to downloading the disk ISO's and wiping the drive.
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 11/12/2009, -0/+1Nope, had to change environments. Any attempt to make any desktop effects work with my ATI 1400 failed, it just never worked. On the other hand 9.10 has been murder to make my network shares work, sad when it was my media server/HTPC I installed it on. They work now, but it was a trial, odd it was easy in 9.04
(I did not digg you down, it was a fairish question) - ptFoe, on 11/13/2009, -3/+4Yes lets celebrate the distribution that gives the user patent protection from the geniuses at MS who have patented SUDO and user escalation rights found in PolicyKit.
Yes lets celebrate - ptFoe, on 11/13/2009, -0/+1there is a bug in ubiquity you need to remove your internet connection before going to the partion stage
- jae1227, on 11/20/2009, -0/+1Thank for your incite. I never heard of zypper for SUSE I thought you had to use the YaST if you wanted to install anything. I'll give it a try because I an getting sick of how unpolished and slow ubuntu feels.
- iskin, on 11/13/2009, -0/+1I went to install it from inside Windows 7 and it wouldn't let me. Dissapointing. Tried Vista compatibility and I still had problems, "Cannot exec bcdeit.exe". I guess I'll try the 32-bit DVD, and if that doesn't work try it in VirtualBox but without being able to install it inside Windows I wouldn't replace Ubuntu which makes trying it a little pointless.
- jae1227, on 11/20/2009, -0/+1in ubuntu if you want a root shell just do:
sudo su - FatherD, on 11/22/2009, -0/+1Well .. quite right Lucidia, with the obvious careful back-up, that would be a much less stressful choice.
The very best of luck with your Opensuse endeavors :) As a follow-up to my original post, I must say that I feel KDE4 still lacks the speed and polish of 3.5.9 .. but with packman and Factory repos the improvements are coming in on a daily basis woohoo! - xgunterx, on 11/12/2009, -0/+1At least you got OpenSUSE installed.
The fact that the installer of Ubuntu (Ubiquity) crashes on me every single try BEFORE installation is a tiny bit more essential than desktop effects AFTER the installation.
Let me guess, the only thing you had to do was update/install new drivers for the graphic card and run sax? - moduc, on 11/13/2009, -0/+1Very very good, but not close to perfect.
Thanks Digg users for posting and commented on this. I did the upgrade. It was very good. I usually don't like look improvement over performance and functionality/usability. However, this one does have a great look add to improve performance. I can feel things are much more responsive.
Now, to issues, I encounter 3 so far. 2 are related to the OS, while the 3rd is not, but related to the upgrade.
1) Wireless doesn't work. It worked before (11.1). This is an upgrade, not a new installation.
All wireless settings/profiles are lost also
2) To go to the task manager settings is not straight forward, or would I say stupid design at best. First, I have to right click on the task manager, then Click on Panel Settings. Next, I right click on one of the icons of an app or window, and click on Task manager settings. I am not sure what other way to get to this starting from the task panel (I don't think they call it the kicker anymore).
3) My Kopete settings and contacts are lost. All the chat history are lost.
Also, doing online upgrade is very slow, due to each files are downloaded individually, so small file still take a large overhead of connection handshake. They should so as much inventory as possible, and make one request, where all packages are sent back in a compressed file.
I do like the zypper dup -d command though. It gets all the files first so you don't have to worry about network issues. I was able to use the computer while the upgrade took place. I could even use the new Firefox afterward before restart. The latest Firefox is very fast and responsive. It also fixed a mouse position value JS issue I have with my script. - volcompimp, on 11/17/2009, -0/+1True, it's been a while since I've messed w/ an rpm distro but
I have revisited Fedora long after these tools were made available
and found them to be complete garbage. That's not to say all
of the tools in every rpm based distro are, but in general I've
found debian based distros to be top-notch & rpm based distros
have always blown goats. I'll give it to Red Hat, Anaconda was great
when they first introduced it but I've always found their package
management to be the worst of just about any distro I've tried.
Some years back, I started hearing great things about PCLinuxOS
which is rpm based but I never cared to give it a try. - dextermanas, on 11/13/2009, -1/+1DejaVu, imho, looks ugly (atleast on window titles) compared to some commercial fonts like Segoe UI.
Anyone know of any Segoe alternatives? - 4321234, on 11/12/2009, -1/+1Rpms are better anyway. They contain more metadata which is used to resolve dependencies. So as long as something needed is there, it doesn't matter which rpm it belongs to, the dependency should be satisfied. Debs always just require a complete deb package that contains the file. That's the way it should work anyways, however many gtk or gnome rpm packages have other rpms as depenencies, as it seems a lot of gnome developers aren't aware of rpms superiority. It probably has something to do with ubuntu being quite popular.
- monstrado, on 11/13/2009, -0/+0lol worst joke ever
- frequentFlyer, on 11/12/2009, -4/+3Have you heard of RPM Hell? You'll miss apt momentarily.
-
Show 51 - 64 of 64 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is